[FOSS4G2016] "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student Competitions
till.adams at fossgis.de
till.adams at fossgis.de
Wed Sep 30 08:20:49 PDT 2015
Hi Suchith,
>
> The main principle for Geo4All is Openness in GeoEducation. So we
> will follow up this idea in Geo4All. We can make this an "Geo4All -
> MapStory Challenge" ; (not for the main FOSS4G conference) but for
> some other opportunities in the future . I will discuss ideas for
> that in the Geo4All lists and get everyone's inputs/ideas on how we
> can make that happen.
why not including that award also into the FOSS4G as well? In Seoul
there have been two student awards and I do not see a problem for this
at all. All i wanted to, is to make sure, that we have an OSgeo award
based on OSGeo projects on the conference, and I guess that is, what
Jeff also supports.
Till
>
> Suchith
> ________________________________________
> From: till.adams at fossgis.de [till.adams at fossgis.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 3:33 PM
> To: Jeff McKenna
> Cc: Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik; Nikos
> Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); list
> Subject: Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
> Competitions
>
> Hi all,
>
> I follow Jeffs argumentation, I didn't check for the license of
> MapStory. In general it is like Jeff told: If this is an OSGeo event,
> at
> least for the OSgeo award (and I do not see any alternative on that)
> should follow OSGeo guidelines.
>
> So in general I stand also and support an OSgeo student award based
> on
> OSGeo projects.
>
> If there is another award (like in Seoul there was) which is paid by
> someone else, the guidelines might be different.
>
> (and I added the f4g 2016 local team list in the "CC's")
>
> Till
>
>
> Am 2015-09-29 21:39, schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>> OSGeo has about 10 projects in incubation, actually craving for
>> attention, publicity, help, to build their community, plus over 20
>> full OSGeo projects also wanting to continue building their strong
>> communities. If we are speaking of FOSS4G regional events, that are
>> actually not hosted by OSGeo, of course, please do promote any
>> software, but since this original message was in regards to FOSS4G
>> 2016 and sent directly to Till, the chair, yes I must make a stand,
>> for all of our projects in incubation and under our umbrella - the
>> student awards are a perfect place to promote our projects, as I've
>> said before, as students are the future of the industry. Getting
>> students using these projects is one of the keys to success for our
>> community.
>>
>> I hope this thread now moves to the public lists, where you can
>> share
>> my thoughts as-is.
>>
>> If anyone has thoughts that I am not open to other communities: I go
>> out of my way to accept other communities and projects (I even
>> worked
>> with Esri developers as part of a past FOSS4G benchmarking exercise
>> in
>> 2009). But for the closing plenary of our big event, the eyes of
>> OSGeo are on us, and yes we must promote our community's software.
>>
>> I realize that I may be the only one making this stand. But, as
>> OSGeo President, as a founding co-chair of GeoForAll, as one of the
>> 3
>> founders of FOSS4G, I hope you listen to my opinion and then discuss
>> this with the GeoForAll community (talking is important). Decisions
>> like this might seem minor, but impact a lot of people.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff McKenna
>> President, OSGeo
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-09-29 3:54 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>> Hi Suchith,
>>>
>>> It is unfortunate that you suggest removing OSGeo's sponsorship,
>>> very
>>> drastic. I also never mentioned any project by name. I did
>>> however
>>> request that you follow these guidelines for future FOSS4G events.
>>> It
>>> is unfortunate that you disagree. In that case, please do bring
>>> this
>>> discussion public (it should not be a private thread with just me
>>> defending OSGeo in its own conference).
>>>
>>> I can tell you that I get feedback (imagine in the closing plenary
>>> of
>>> FOSSS4G, in a big room filled with OSGeo project leads and
>>> developers)
>>> and then seeing software that is not truly Open Source and OSGeo.
>>>
>>> There are lots of conferences and events, but FOSS4G is hosted by
>>> OSGeo,
>>> and we must promote our projects.
>>>
>>> Please do bring this to the public list. You can leave all of my
>>> words
>>> as-is.
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-09-29 3:48 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> Apologies if i did not correctly understand correctly. My humble
>>>> opinion is that we have to be Open minded NOT narrow minded in
>>>> terms
>>>> of education. I cannot understand why MapStory platform cannot be
>>>> used
>>>> for running a student competition.
>>>>
>>>>> From what i understand, MapStory is an openly licensed data
>>>>> commons,
>>>>> an Open Educational Resource, that is OGC compliant, built on
>>>>> open
>>>>> source geo http://www.GeoNode.org. It is intended explicitly for
>>>>> students to be able to organize and share what they know about
>>>>> the
>>>>> world spatially and temporally.This is exactly the kind of
>>>>> spatial
>>>>> learning platform we need for expanding geoeducation for schools.
>>>>> Just because it is not an OSGeo project does not mean it should
>>>>> be
>>>>> not be used. The main principle we need to look into is Openness
>>>>> in
>>>>> GeoEducation.
>>>>
>>>> We should support and make use ofMapStory.org , as an alternative
>>>> to
>>>> proprietary ones like ArcGISOnline, so that students and teachers
>>>> can
>>>> make use of this for learning purposes without being dependent on
>>>> the
>>>> mercy of the proprietary vendor.
>>>>
>>>> For me , OSGeo represents Openness and welcome to everyone who
>>>> follows
>>>> the ideals. If we want to truly expand Geoeducation then please
>>>> welcome and support other initiatives into OSGeo and not look down
>>>> at
>>>> them (just because they are not OSGeo projects). This is the kind
>>>> of
>>>> spirit that we need , if we truly want to expand geoeducation
>>>> opportunities for all.
>>>>
>>>> If you think the 1k USD sponsorship for student awards is the
>>>> issue,
>>>> then no problem , we can try to find another sponsor who will be
>>>> open
>>>> minded to support this.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Suchith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Jeff McKenna [jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:42 PM
>>>> To: Suchith Anand; till.adams at fossgis.de
>>>> Cc: Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik; Nikos
>>>> Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
>>>> Subject: Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
>>>> Competitions
>>>>
>>>> Hi Suchith, Till, all,
>>>>
>>>> I think if we are speaking openly now, we should always remember
>>>> that
>>>> the global FOSS4G is hosted by the OSGeo foundation; in that
>>>> sense,
>>>> I
>>>> feel that it is extremely important to showcase the OSGeo software
>>>> projects, and yes, especially to the students. What I saw at some
>>>> past
>>>> FOSS4G events was student competitions based around other software
>>>> (software that has nothing to do with OSGeo's event in fact, and
>>>> arguably software that is not even truly Open Source).
>>>>
>>>> In terms of branding, this is a small detail but if we follow
>>>> this,
>>>> this
>>>> helps expand the name OSGeo, point out our strong standards and
>>>> benefits
>>>> of being a part of the OSGeo community, and helps the foundation
>>>> grow
>>>> globally.
>>>>
>>>> This could also be a great time to discuss these other projects
>>>> that you
>>>> like to promote to enter into the OSGeo umbrella, through our
>>>> incubation
>>>> process. There is a whole team of volunteers willing to help
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> So I hope we can always keep this in mind, for each and every
>>>> FOSS4G
>>>> event.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeff McKenna
>>>> President, OSGeo
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-09-29 2:32 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>> Hi Till,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to start putting our ideas for the Student
>>>>> competition for
>>>>> FOSS4G 2016. You can get some ideas of our thinking based on our
>>>>> discussions below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our thinking is to organise the Student competitions for FOSS4G
>>>>> global
>>>>> conference using the MapStory platform as it will be excellent
>>>>> tool for
>>>>> widening participation (esp. to school level). The biggest
>>>>> advantage of
>>>>> using MapStory platform in addition to its openness is also the
>>>>> simplicity. So schools with very little resources even in
>>>>> developing
>>>>> countries can also participate (all they need is an internet
>>>>> connected
>>>>> PC ).Having Geo4All MapStory Challenge put in place, which we can
>>>>> aim to
>>>>> run every year at FOSS4G main conference will be excellent for
>>>>> spreading
>>>>> the message and building up global momentum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on feedbacks from the community, Geo4All will do the
>>>>> background
>>>>> work of the competition (in close links with the LOC and MapStory
>>>>> Foundation).
>>>>>
>>>>> With MapStory Challenge , we can now open up new opportunities
>>>>> for
>>>>> high
>>>>> school level students and their teachers to also participate in
>>>>> the
>>>>> Student competitions at the main FOSS4G conference. Also MapStory
>>>>> is a
>>>>> good example of spatial learning platform we want to encourage
>>>>> for
>>>>> expanding geoeducation for schools as an alternative to
>>>>> proprietary ones
>>>>> and having a dedicated competition will be big boost for our
>>>>> efforts. We
>>>>> will need lot of efforts to get a good system in place for the
>>>>> competition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also to make it clear - We have only small budget (maximum 1000
>>>>> USD )
>>>>> from the OSGeo Foundation for the Student Awards . Maybe some
>>>>> others
>>>>> might join in (like in Seoul, though we cannot confirm as of now)
>>>>> BUT we
>>>>> are very lucky to have a dedicated team of amazing people who
>>>>> will
>>>>> help
>>>>> us make this possible including support from Chris Tucker of
>>>>> MapStory
>>>>> Foundation for providing the competition platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> We look forward to your ideas/inputs on how we can move forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov]
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:39 AM
>>>>> *To:* Charles Schweik; Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>> *Cc:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith Anand; Jonathan Marino;
>>>>> Elżbieta
>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Nikos and Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> Howdy! I just wanted to chime in with what Charlie has to say. It
>>>>> is
>>>>> very encouraging to hear the words of Nikos and sense the level
>>>>> of
>>>>> dedication and commitment to excellence. We often feel ourselves
>>>>> as very
>>>>> lonely peaceful warriors for a better world, but in fact there
>>>>> are
>>>>> many
>>>>> pressing forward with all their might, so that the future might
>>>>> be
>>>>> better for all. Without a better future, there is none. We must
>>>>> all be
>>>>> as informed as possible as to the state of our world. This is
>>>>> greatly
>>>>> helped if we can share our story, and it should feel good to
>>>>> share, or
>>>>> if not good, at least feel like we are helping truth to be more
>>>>> visible.
>>>>> A life with purpose is a full one that reverberates deeply in the
>>>>> sweetest possible way.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Charles Schweik [mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu]
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:20 AM
>>>>> *To:* Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>> *Cc:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith Anand; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX);
>>>>> Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Inspiring Nikos, and thank you for your amazing commitment. I
>>>>> know
>>>>> I was
>>>>> thinking of you (even though we haven't met in person) during
>>>>> those
>>>>> tough days this summer with your country's financial issues and
>>>>> hope
>>>>> things become better!
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing we can do is continue to work in small subteams toward
>>>>> going
>>>>> after funding and then keep trying to leverage those
>>>>> collaborative
>>>>> ideas
>>>>> in other funding opportunities. A sort of hybrid open source
>>>>> grant-getting I guess, between subsets of our community members
>>>>> with
>>>>> shared visions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:03 PM, <labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I read all this discussion which is very interesting. I would
>>>>> like
>>>>> to
>>>>> add my experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> In general I agree with Patrick because in our times nothing is
>>>>> easy to
>>>>> done without funding. Yes, not easy but not impossible.
>>>>>
>>>>> When, three years ago, I applied for the establishment of the
>>>>> Hellenic
>>>>> digital earth Centre of Excellence I was asked who is going to
>>>>> finance
>>>>> the Centre. I said, no one. They couldn’t believe that it will
>>>>> work. I
>>>>> said that it will be supported by volunteers. And, if it works
>>>>> then it
>>>>> will be great, if it doesn’t then we have nothing to lose.
>>>>>
>>>>> After three years the Centre has a lot of activities to show, lot
>>>>> of
>>>>> seminars and workshops, and lot of teaching materials for the
>>>>> teachers
>>>>> and students. The only problem is that we can’t do things
>>>>> quickly.
>>>>> I
>>>>> have spent a lot of money from my pocket and I will keep spending
>>>>> until
>>>>> the Centre gets funding. I am not going to quit. Everything would
>>>>> be
>>>>> easier if the Centre was funded (I have tried it but haven’t
>>>>> succeeded
>>>>> yet due to the financial crisis in Greece) but me and my
>>>>> colleagues will
>>>>> keep working for the Centre.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the spirit. Don’t lose your courage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wishes to all wonderful people of the network
>>>>>
>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>
>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>
>>>>> Dept. of Primary Education
>>>>>
>>>>> Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki
>>>>>
>>>>> Greece, GR-54124
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel. +30 2310 991201
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>
>>>>> Web pages: _http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography/_
>>>>>
>>>>> _http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/_
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Christopher Tucker [mailto:christopher.tucker at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:christopher.tucker at gmail.com>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand
>>>>> *Cc:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron C Fortunato
>>>>> (ron at trilliumlearning.com <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>
>>>>> I really appreciate what Patrick is trying to communicate.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a "startup guy" who has started up a number of things, I
>>>>> appreciate
>>>>> his characterization of what it takes to succeed without a large
>>>>> purse!
>>>>> - "a combination of a ridiculous amount of politicking,
>>>>> sorcery,
>>>>> favors, friendships, good luck, and just plain stupendous
>>>>> investment of
>>>>> work, blue-collar, grass-root, white-collar, directorial work,
>>>>> then more
>>>>> work." !!!! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> My question to Patrick is "what is the minimum purse size to get
>>>>> the
>>>>> attention of the vast majority of our target population. $10k
>>>>> might be
>>>>> feasible. $250k would not be.
>>>>>
>>>>> I share your (Suchith) enthusiasm, and am happy to move forward
>>>>> without
>>>>> a huge purse, just to get the word out, without any illusions
>>>>> that
>>>>> we
>>>>> will get the response that a large purse would enable. Patrick, I
>>>>> believe is spot on. But, alas, starting things up is a painful
>>>>> process
>>>>> that startup folks have to embrace! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>> Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>> The MapStory Foundation
>>>>> @MapStory
>>>>> tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Suchith Anand
>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it is hard work but if we want to expand geoeducation
>>>>> using
>>>>> Open principles to schools globally , i see this as a great
>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>
>>>>> What is suggest is if MapStory Foundation (Chris, Jon) are
>>>>> happy to
>>>>> do what Maria Brovelli and Politecnico di Milano did for
>>>>> Europa
>>>>> challenge then that is a good starting point. More
>>>>> importantly, the
>>>>> competion will help spread wide awareness among teacher
>>>>> community
>>>>> worldwide that there is an alternative to ArcGIS Online and
>>>>> they
>>>>> can
>>>>> freely make use of MapStory if they want.
>>>>>
>>>>> We will request all our labs to send the info. out to their
>>>>> students, so even if we get 20 labs to participate in the
>>>>> first
>>>>> year
>>>>> it is a good start. Because the entry level is low (they do
>>>>> not
>>>>> even
>>>>> need to be programmers!) we will have more participation.
>>>>> Slowly
>>>>> based on experience we will build upon it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris - what do you think? Will you be able to provide
>>>>> background
>>>>> support for this competition?
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>> <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:54 AM
>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>
>>>>> You need the cold trout treatment, one good whack upside the
>>>>> head!
>>>>> $1,000 is peanuts. It’s a financial fig-leaf. A very nice
>>>>> gesture
>>>>> but not anything that will drive interest. Nor will judging
>>>>> panels
>>>>> **unless** they are ‘required’ to find contestant teams. And
>>>>> yes,
>>>>> good ones are hard to find, even without them working to
>>>>> generate
>>>>> contestant teams. I am just trying to let you know, that the
>>>>> level
>>>>> of activity to generate ‘’real’ tangible interest is a
>>>>> combination
>>>>> of a ridiculous amount of politicking, sorcery, favors,
>>>>> friendships,
>>>>> good luck, and just plain stupendous investment of work,
>>>>> blue-collar, grass-root, white-collar, directorial work,
>>>>> then
>>>>> more
>>>>> work. Do not be fooled that a good idea gets a good
>>>>> following. You
>>>>> will need to pound the bushes long and hard. I’m trying to
>>>>> sober
>>>>> you
>>>>> up now rather than have you face disappointment later. And I
>>>>> would
>>>>> love to be completely off-base here. Just giving you a bit
>>>>> of
>>>>> voice
>>>>> from my three-year experience. And without Prof Maria
>>>>> Brovelli and
>>>>> Politecnico di Milano at Como, we would have never even
>>>>> gotten off
>>>>> the ground!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> (650) 604-5656 <tel:%28650%29%20604-5656> (office)
>>>>>
>>>>> (650) 269-2788 <tel:%28650%29%20269-2788> (cell)
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Suchith Anand [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:22 PM
>>>>> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); Suchith Anand; Christopher
>>>>> Tucker
>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, i now understand . True, we do not have a big purse but
>>>>> atleast
>>>>> we can start with the 1000USD that we have from OSGeo. I can
>>>>> also
>>>>> send requests to ICA and ISPRS to contribute. But you are
>>>>> absolutely
>>>>> right, this is something we need to think of how to attract
>>>>> more
>>>>> participation.
>>>>>
>>>>> But IMHO , more than the prize money, it is also getting the
>>>>> judging
>>>>> panels, infrastucture etc in place that is hard work. With
>>>>> MapStory
>>>>> platform in place (and we will need to get bit of help from
>>>>> Chris,
>>>>> Jon to setup a dedicated website and introductory tutorial
>>>>> links,
>>>>> instructions to teachers, participants etc) we are well
>>>>> placed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>> <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:10 AM
>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s what I am trying to inform you of. You can promote
>>>>> it
>>>>> worldwide and with plenty of chutzpah, but without a big
>>>>> purse
>>>>> ($$$), you just don’t get traction. Without a big purse
>>>>> (which
>>>>> attracts too many teams to judge on this scale anyway, you
>>>>> need to
>>>>> actually find the teams directly (I mean **directly**), then
>>>>> encourage others accordingly (*directly*). I’d like to be
>>>>> wrong or
>>>>> at least rich so I could help more with the ($$$). But I am
>>>>> just
>>>>> letting you know, it’s not a **promote it** and they will
>>>>> come’
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of success story. You need to fight it hand-to-hand down in
>>>>> the
>>>>> “mud, blood and beer” (from ‘A Boy Named Sue’ by Johnny
>>>>> Cash).
>>>>>
>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Suchith Anand [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:58 PM
>>>>> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); Suchith Anand; Christopher
>>>>> Tucker
>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick, We have to put lot of efforts to get prospective
>>>>> teams to
>>>>> apply but i am confident if we plan the MapStory competition
>>>>> and
>>>>> work hard to get it launched at Geography2050 and promote it
>>>>> through
>>>>> all our networks (ICA, OSGeo, ISPRS etc) , we will get good
>>>>> response. The Barbara Petchenik Competition map drawing
>>>>> competition for children run by ICA is an excellent example
>>>>> that we
>>>>> should look into . The aim of the contest is to promote the
>>>>> creative representation of the world in graphic form by
>>>>> children.
>>>>> Details are at http://icaci.org/petchenik/
>>>>>
>>>>> With MapStory Challenge , we can now open up new
>>>>> opportunities for
>>>>> high school level students and their teachers to also
>>>>> participate in
>>>>> the G4A Student competitions at the main FOSS4G conference.
>>>>> Also
>>>>> MapStory is a good example of spatial learning platform we
>>>>> want to
>>>>> encourage for expanding geoeducation for schools as an
>>>>> alternative
>>>>> to proprietary ones and having a dedicated competition will
>>>>> be big
>>>>> boost for our efforts. We will need lot of efforts to get a
>>>>> good
>>>>> system in place for the competition. All ideas/inputs
>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Europa Challenge as we discussed, we will expand with
>>>>> Research
>>>>> Data Alliance IGs to setup G4A-RDA-NASA "Smart City
>>>>> challenge".
>>>>> With Ron's and Charlie's help i am sure we will be able to
>>>>> expand
>>>>> this also.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>> <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 1:59 AM
>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>
>>>>> So I am the ‘spiritual brain’ of the Europa Challenge?!
>>>>> There’s an
>>>>> oxymoron for you! Or something quite beyond, yet still
>>>>> adding
>>>>> things
>>>>> up, a kind of Sufi Astrophysicist or Banking Buddha (a.k.a.
>>>>> It’s a
>>>>> Wonderful Life).
>>>>>
>>>>> The one thing to know is that it is nowhere near ‘build it
>>>>> and they
>>>>> will come.’ You must blow on the coals round-the-clock with
>>>>> all
>>>>> your
>>>>> might. . .inquire, nurture, sustain, cajole, threaten and
>>>>> beg
>>>>> for
>>>>> prospective teams to apply themselves to the ‘worthy’
>>>>> effort.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another thought is to benefit from what Ron Fortunato is
>>>>> doing with
>>>>> www.aWorldBridge.com <http://www.aWorldBridge.com>, whether
>>>>> it’s
>>>>> the
>>>>> Global Earthquake Forecast System or the environmental
>>>>> evaluation
>>>>> work Ron is doing with Charlie Schweik. Both have lots of
>>>>> tech,
>>>>> plenty of science and all geospatial.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.edlinesites.net/pages/America_Bridge_Project/Europa_Challenge/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://westemthefuture.wordpress.com/summer-2015/
>>>>>
>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> (650) 604-5656 <tel:%28650%29%20604-5656> (office)
>>>>>
>>>>> (650) 269-2788 <tel:%28650%29%20269-2788> (cell)
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Suchith Anand [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 1:20 PM
>>>>> *To:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Hogan, Patrick
>>>>> (ARC-PX)
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent Chris. Let us then plan ideas for this with Jon
>>>>> and
>>>>> others
>>>>> to make this happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> The good news is we now have the mandate and opportunity to
>>>>> fully
>>>>> organise the Student competitions for FOSS4G events (both
>>>>> global
>>>>> and
>>>>> regional) and i believe competitions build on MapStory
>>>>> platform
>>>>> will
>>>>> be excellent for widening participation (esp. to school
>>>>> level).I
>>>>> think the biggest advantage of using MapStory platform in
>>>>> addition
>>>>> to its openness is also the simplicity. So schools with very
>>>>> little
>>>>> resources even in developing countries canalso participate
>>>>> (all
>>>>> they
>>>>> need is an internet connected PC )
>>>>>
>>>>> Ela (cc in) is already planning our inputs for FOSS4G 2016
>>>>> Bonn and
>>>>> having Geo4All MapStory Challenge put in place, which we can
>>>>> aim to
>>>>> runevery year at FOSS4G main conference will be excellent
>>>>> for
>>>>> spreading the message and building up global momentum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick (cc in) is the spiritual brain behind the successful
>>>>> Europa
>>>>> challenge http://eurochallenge.como.polimi.itI am sure he
>>>>> will be
>>>>> happy to share any inputs needs from his experiences andwe
>>>>> canlearn
>>>>> many things from Europa challenge, for example having
>>>>> student
>>>>> teams
>>>>> to participate (each team with a teacher and 3-5 students).
>>>>> This
>>>>> will also help us to expand the Teacher Training activities
>>>>> using
>>>>> MapStory platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Geography2050 will be an excellent platform to launch this
>>>>> initiative (if you are attending this, then please use that
>>>>> opportunity to launch this). This empowerment of teachers
>>>>> and
>>>>> students
>>>>>
>>>>> and openness is what we want Geography education to look in
>>>>> 2050.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: Don't worry ,Next time you are at Nottingham, i will
>>>>> make
>>>>> arrangements so you can be at England’s first pub :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Christopher Tucker [tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>> <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:36 PM
>>>>> *To:* Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> Marino
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>
>>>>> You rock.What a great idea.Would love to support this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not at the Nottingham meetings.Wish I were!Last time I
>>>>> was
>>>>> there, I was hoping to go to England’s first pub, but I
>>>>> missed it!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to move the ball forward on a Geo4All MapStory
>>>>> Challenge.Let me research how the Europa Challenge
>>>>> unfolded.I
>>>>> am
>>>>> afraid I did not watch it closely enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any general input on how we should think about this?November
>>>>> would
>>>>> be a good timeframe for doing something.Our relaunched site
>>>>> is
>>>>> coming imminentlyAnd, we have a few features and bugs that
>>>>> we
>>>>> hope
>>>>> to clear out by mid-October.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for thinking of us!
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>> Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>> The MapStory Foundation
>>>>> @MapStory
>>>>> tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>> *Date:* September 15, 2015 at 8:47:54 AM EDT
>>>>> *To:* Christopher Tucker <tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>> <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>>, Suchith Anand
>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>> *Cc:* "labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>"
>>>>> <labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>>,
>>>>> Jonathan Marino <marino at mapstory.org
>>>>> <mailto:marino at mapstory.org>>
>>>>> *Subject:* *"Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"*
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope you are doing well Are you participating in OGC
>>>>> Nottingham meetings?
>>>>>
>>>>> Will need to plan ideas for more collaborations
>>>>> forMapStory.
>>>>> From the success of Patrick's Europa challenge, i am
>>>>> thinking of having a similar challenge for MapStory
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw details of http://www.geography2050.org
>>>>> <http://www.geography2050.org/>. May i suggest that
>>>>> we use
>>>>> this opportunity to launch "Geo4All - MapStory
>>>>> Challenge" .
>>>>> Geo4All will also be pleased to be one of the
>>>>> symposium
>>>>> partners for Geography 2050. What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Christopher Tucker [tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>> <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 04, 2015 1:04 AM
>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand
>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>> Jonathan Marino
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS
>>>>> into
>>>>> geospatial education
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for my delay.I did not see this email when it
>>>>> first
>>>>> came across my inbox.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nikos,
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, my Greek is not very good! ;-)But, I
>>>>> did
>>>>> click on some of the links.And, some of them are
>>>>> clearly
>>>>> about change over time.These are perfect for
>>>>> MapStory.org
>>>>> <http://mapstory.org/>!
>>>>>
>>>>> As for mapping local history, an early leader in the
>>>>> MapStory community, Nitin Gadia mapped his home
>>>>> town,
>>>>> Ames
>>>>> Iowa, building by building and parcel by parcel from
>>>>> 1862
>>>>> until now:http://mapstory.org/maps/475/
>>>>>
>>>>> He did this in 80 hours of his own time, getting
>>>>> data
>>>>> from
>>>>> the city, state, and Ames Historical Society and
>>>>> putting it
>>>>> in to MapStory.In retrospect, he was sure he could
>>>>> have
>>>>> done
>>>>> the same in 5 hours.So, he dubbed his effort
>>>>> “MapStory
>>>>> Local” and put together a cookbook that people could
>>>>> follow
>>>>> in their home towns.
>>>>> (http://wiki.mapstory.org/wiki/MapStory_Local,
>>>>> http://www.thenittygritty.org/mapstorylocal).
>>>>>
>>>>> And, he is not really a GIS guy.Just a reasonably
>>>>> smart guy
>>>>> who had a goal.So, I think the same thing could be
>>>>> done by
>>>>> smart high-school kids around the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, there are many other cool spatio-temporal
>>>>> datasets and stories that students and classes could
>>>>> put
>>>>> together and share as part of interesting learning
>>>>> experiences.
>>>>>
>>>>> We would be happy to talk if you think there is any
>>>>> value in
>>>>> MapStory to you and your classes!
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if we can be of help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>> Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>> The MapStory Foundation
>>>>> @MapStory
>>>>> tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Suchith Anand
>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Nikos for sharing this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am ccing Chrisas well, as maybe we can think of
>>>>> ideas of
>>>>> enabling this "The introduction of GIS and GPS
>>>>> through
>>>>> local
>>>>> history teaching in primary school"using MapStory,
>>>>> so
>>>>> that
>>>>> other teachers can start using the idea for thier
>>>>> teaching.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris - what do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>> [labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:47 PM
>>>>> To: 'Suchith Anand'
>>>>> Cc: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS into
>>>>> geospatial education
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Suchith,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is exactly what the Hellenic digital earth
>>>>> Centre of
>>>>> Excellence is
>>>>> doing the last two years. We use ArcGIS Online in
>>>>> primary
>>>>> schools and the
>>>>> children have done wonderful job like, tourist maps
>>>>> of
>>>>> their
>>>>> village etc.
>>>>> You can see these maps in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/index.php/el/newsmodule/2015-05-14-20-50-38/
>>>>>
>>>>> schoolrelated which is in Greek but you can have an
>>>>> idea of
>>>>> what we have
>>>>> achieved almost with no cost. The students have been
>>>>> responding responsibly
>>>>> and this gives us more courage to continue in the
>>>>> coming
>>>>> years.
>>>>> Anyone interested in this can download the article
>>>>> "The
>>>>> introduction of GIS
>>>>> and GPS through local history teaching in primary
>>>>> school" from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.eurogeographyjournal.eu/articles/2.THE%20INTRODUCTION%20OF%20GIS%
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.eurogeographyjournal.eu/articles/2.THE%20INTRODUCTION%20OF%20GIS%25>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 20AND%20GPS%20THROUGH%20LOCAL%20HISTORY%20TEACHING%20IN%20PRIMARY%20SCHOOL-2
>>>>>
>>>>> pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------
>>>>> Dr. Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>> Dept. of Primary Education
>>>>> Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki
>>>>> Greece, GR-54124
>>>>> Tel. +30 2310 991201
>>>>> Email: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>> Web pages:
>>>>> http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography/
>>>>> http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>> [mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Suchith Anand
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 7:26 PM
>>>>> To: Mueller, Thomas; Vaclav Petras; ICA OSGeo Labs
>>>>> list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS into
>>>>> geospatial education
>>>>>
>>>>> Great work Vaclav.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand from Dr. Christopher K Tucker (Chairman
>>>>> of the
>>>>> Board of
>>>>> Trustees, The MapStory Foundation) cc in that when
>>>>> MapStory
>>>>> http://MapStory.org <http://mapstory.org/>
>>>>> relaunched
>>>>> later
>>>>> in June, it will be an openly licensed
>>>>> data commons, an Open Educational Resource, that is
>>>>> OGC
>>>>> compliant, built on
>>>>> open source geohttp://www.GeoNode.org
>>>>> <http://www.geonode.org/> .It is intended explicitly
>>>>> for
>>>>> students to be able to organize and share what they
>>>>> know
>>>>> about the world
>>>>> spatially and temporally.And, in the redesign, they
>>>>> will
>>>>> open up
>>>>> distributed versioned editing of change over time,
>>>>> so
>>>>> that
>>>>> students can
>>>>> collaborate on data collection projects, and then
>>>>> tell
>>>>> their
>>>>> own stories
>>>>> with this data. This is exactly the kind of spatial
>>>>> learning
>>>>> platform we
>>>>> need for expanding geoeducation for schools.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest that,GeoForAll should support and make use
>>>>> ofMapStory.org <http://mapstory.org/>,
>>>>> as an alternative to proprietary ones like
>>>>> ArcGISOnline, so
>>>>> that students
>>>>> and teachers can make use of this for learning
>>>>> purposes
>>>>> without being
>>>>> dependent on the mercy of the proprietary vendor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know your thoughts/ideas. We will add
>>>>> MapStory
>>>>> to our training
>>>>> resources section and promote this to all educators.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
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