[FOSS4G2016] "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student Competitions

till.adams at fossgis.de till.adams at fossgis.de
Wed Sep 30 08:32:50 PDT 2015


Hi Suchith,

perfect - if anything we do would be that easy ;-)

Regards, Till


Am 2015-09-30 17:26, schrieb Suchith Anand:
> Thanks Till. That is excellent idea. I also see no reason why we
> should limit to only one student competition. So we will have an 
> OSGeo
> award based on OSGeo projects and also awards for any additional
> student competitions.
>
> I will discuss with MapStory colleagues (and i am confident we will
> be able to find a sponsor for the "Geo4All-MapStory Challenge" ).
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
> ________________________________________
> From: till.adams at fossgis.de [till.adams at fossgis.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:20 PM
> To: Suchith Anand
> Cc: Jeff McKenna; Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino;
> Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik;
> Nikos Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); list
> Subject: RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
> Competitions
>
> Hi Suchith,
>>
>> The main principle for Geo4All  is Openness in GeoEducation. So we
>> will follow up this idea in Geo4All. We can make this an "Geo4All -
>> MapStory Challenge" ; (not for the main FOSS4G conference) but for
>> some other opportunities in the future .  I will discuss ideas for
>> that in the Geo4All lists and get everyone's inputs/ideas on how we
>> can make that happen.
>
> why not including that award also into the FOSS4G as well? In Seoul
> there have been two student awards and I do not see a problem for 
> this
> at all. All i wanted to, is to make sure, that we have an OSgeo award
> based on OSGeo projects on the conference, and I guess that is, what
> Jeff also supports.
>
> Till
>
>
>
>>
>> Suchith
>> ________________________________________
>> From: till.adams at fossgis.de [till.adams at fossgis.de]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 3:33 PM
>> To: Jeff McKenna
>> Cc: Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik; Nikos
>> Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); list
>> Subject: Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
>> Competitions
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I follow Jeffs argumentation, I didn't check for the license of
>> MapStory. In general it is like Jeff told: If this is an OSGeo 
>> event,
>> at
>> least for the OSgeo award (and I do not see any alternative on that)
>> should follow OSGeo guidelines.
>>
>> So in general I stand also and support an OSgeo student award based
>> on
>> OSGeo projects.
>>
>> If there is another award (like in Seoul there was) which is paid by
>> someone else, the guidelines might be different.
>>
>> (and I added the f4g 2016 local team list in the "CC's")
>>
>> Till
>>
>>
>> Am 2015-09-29 21:39, schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>>> OSGeo has about 10 projects in incubation, actually craving for
>>> attention, publicity, help, to build their community, plus over 20
>>> full OSGeo projects also wanting to continue building their strong
>>> communities.  If we are speaking of FOSS4G regional events, that 
>>> are
>>> actually not hosted by OSGeo, of course, please do promote any
>>> software, but since this original message was in regards to FOSS4G
>>> 2016 and sent directly to Till, the chair, yes I must make a stand,
>>> for all of our projects in incubation and under our umbrella - the
>>> student awards are a perfect place to promote our projects, as I've
>>> said before, as students are the future of the industry.  Getting
>>> students using these projects is one of the keys to success for our
>>> community.
>>>
>>> I hope this thread now moves to the public lists, where you can
>>> share
>>> my thoughts as-is.
>>>
>>> If anyone has thoughts that I am not open to other communities: I 
>>> go
>>> out of my way to accept other communities and projects (I even
>>> worked
>>> with Esri developers as part of a past FOSS4G benchmarking exercise
>>> in
>>> 2009).  But for the closing plenary of our big event, the eyes of
>>> OSGeo are on us, and yes we must promote our community's software.
>>>
>>> I realize that I may be the only one making this stand.  But, as
>>> OSGeo President, as a founding co-chair of GeoForAll, as one of the
>>> 3
>>> founders of FOSS4G, I hope you listen to my opinion and then 
>>> discuss
>>> this with the GeoForAll community (talking is important).  
>>> Decisions
>>> like this might seem minor, but impact a lot of people.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeff McKenna
>>> President, OSGeo
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-09-29 3:54 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>> Hi Suchith,
>>>>
>>>> It is unfortunate that you suggest removing OSGeo's sponsorship,
>>>> very
>>>> drastic.  I also never mentioned any project by name.  I did
>>>> however
>>>> request that you follow these guidelines for future FOSS4G events.
>>>> It
>>>> is unfortunate that you disagree.  In that case, please do bring
>>>> this
>>>> discussion public (it should not be a private thread with just me
>>>> defending OSGeo in its own conference).
>>>>
>>>> I can tell you that I get feedback (imagine in the closing plenary
>>>> of
>>>> FOSSS4G, in a big room filled with OSGeo project leads and
>>>> developers)
>>>> and then seeing software that is not truly Open Source and OSGeo.
>>>>
>>>> There are lots of conferences and events, but FOSS4G is hosted by
>>>> OSGeo,
>>>> and we must promote our projects.
>>>>
>>>> Please do bring this to the public list.  You can leave all of my
>>>> words
>>>> as-is.
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-09-29 3:48 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologies if i did not correctly understand correctly. My humble
>>>>> opinion is that we have to be Open minded NOT narrow minded in
>>>>> terms
>>>>> of education. I cannot understand why MapStory platform cannot be
>>>>> used
>>>>> for running a student competition.
>>>>>
>>>>>> From what i understand, MapStory is an openly licensed data
>>>>>> commons,
>>>>>> an Open Educational Resource, that is OGC  compliant, built on
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> source geo http://www.GeoNode.org. It is intended explicitly for
>>>>>> students to be able to organize and share what they know about
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> world spatially and temporally.This is exactly the kind of
>>>>>> spatial
>>>>>> learning platform we need for expanding geoeducation for 
>>>>>> schools.
>>>>>> Just because it is not an OSGeo project does not mean it should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> not be used. The main principle we need to look into is Openness
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> GeoEducation.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should support and make use ofMapStory.org , as an alternative
>>>>> to
>>>>> proprietary ones like ArcGISOnline, so that students and teachers
>>>>> can
>>>>> make use of this for learning purposes without being dependent on
>>>>> the
>>>>> mercy of the proprietary vendor.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me , OSGeo represents Openness and welcome to everyone who
>>>>> follows
>>>>> the ideals. If we want to truly expand Geoeducation  then please
>>>>> welcome and support other initiatives into OSGeo and not look 
>>>>> down
>>>>> at
>>>>> them  (just because they are not OSGeo projects). This is the 
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of
>>>>> spirit that we need , if we truly want to expand geoeducation
>>>>> opportunities for all.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think the 1k USD sponsorship for student awards is the
>>>>> issue,
>>>>> then no problem , we can try to find another sponsor who will be
>>>>> open
>>>>> minded to support this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: Jeff McKenna [jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:42 PM
>>>>> To: Suchith Anand; till.adams at fossgis.de
>>>>> Cc: Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik; Nikos
>>>>> Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
>>>>> Subject: Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
>>>>> Competitions
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Suchith, Till, all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think if we are speaking openly now, we should always remember
>>>>> that
>>>>> the global FOSS4G is hosted by the OSGeo foundation; in that
>>>>> sense,
>>>>> I
>>>>> feel that it is extremely important to showcase the OSGeo 
>>>>> software
>>>>> projects, and yes, especially to the students.  What I saw at 
>>>>> some
>>>>> past
>>>>> FOSS4G events was student competitions based around other 
>>>>> software
>>>>> (software that has nothing to do with OSGeo's event in fact, and
>>>>> arguably software that is not even truly Open Source).
>>>>>
>>>>> In terms of branding, this is a small detail but if we follow
>>>>> this,
>>>>> this
>>>>> helps expand the name OSGeo, point out our strong standards and
>>>>> benefits
>>>>> of being a part of the OSGeo community, and helps the foundation
>>>>> grow
>>>>> globally.
>>>>>
>>>>> This could also be a great time to discuss these other projects
>>>>> that you
>>>>> like to promote to enter into the OSGeo umbrella, through our
>>>>> incubation
>>>>> process.  There is a whole team of volunteers willing to help
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I hope we can always keep this in mind, for each and every
>>>>> FOSS4G
>>>>> event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jeff McKenna
>>>>> President, OSGeo
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-09-29 2:32 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Till,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to start putting our ideas for  the Student
>>>>>> competition for
>>>>>> FOSS4G 2016. You can get some ideas of our thinking based on our
>>>>>> discussions below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our thinking is to organise the Student competitions for FOSS4G
>>>>>> global
>>>>>> conference using the MapStory platform as it will be excellent
>>>>>> tool for
>>>>>> widening participation (esp. to school level). The biggest
>>>>>> advantage of
>>>>>> using MapStory platform in addition to its openness is also the
>>>>>> simplicity. So schools with very little resources even in
>>>>>> developing
>>>>>> countries can also participate (all they need is an internet
>>>>>> connected
>>>>>> PC ).Having Geo4All MapStory Challenge put in place, which we 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> aim to
>>>>>> run every year at FOSS4G main conference will be excellent for
>>>>>> spreading
>>>>>> the message and building up global momentum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on feedbacks from the community, Geo4All will  do the
>>>>>> background
>>>>>> work of the competition (in close links with the LOC and 
>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>> Foundation).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With MapStory Challenge , we can now open up new opportunities
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> high
>>>>>> school level students and their teachers to also participate in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Student competitions at the main FOSS4G conference. Also 
>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> good example of spatial learning platform we want to encourage
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> expanding geoeducation for schools as an alternative to
>>>>>> proprietary ones
>>>>>> and having a dedicated competition will be big boost for our
>>>>>> efforts. We
>>>>>> will need lot of efforts to get a good system in place for the
>>>>>> competition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also to make it clear - We have only small budget (maximum 1000
>>>>>> USD )
>>>>>> from the OSGeo Foundation  for the Student Awards . Maybe some
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> might join in (like in Seoul, though we cannot confirm as of 
>>>>>> now)
>>>>>> BUT we
>>>>>> are very lucky to have a dedicated team of amazing people who
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> us make this possible including support from Chris Tucker of
>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>> Foundation  for providing the competition platform.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We look forward to your ideas/inputs on how we can move forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:39 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Charles Schweik; Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>> *Cc:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith Anand; Jonathan Marino;
>>>>>> Elżbieta
>>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nikos and Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Howdy! I just wanted to chime in with what Charlie has to say. 
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> very encouraging to hear the words of Nikos and sense the level
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> dedication and commitment to excellence. We often feel ourselves
>>>>>> as very
>>>>>> lonely peaceful warriors for a better world, but in fact there
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> pressing forward with all their might, so that the future might
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> better for all. Without a better future, there is none. We must
>>>>>> all be
>>>>>> as informed as possible as to the state of our world. This is
>>>>>> greatly
>>>>>> helped if we can share our story, and it should feel good to
>>>>>> share, or
>>>>>> if not good, at least feel like we are helping truth to be more
>>>>>> visible.
>>>>>> A life with purpose is a full one that reverberates deeply in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> sweetest possible way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Charles Schweik [mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:20 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>> *Cc:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith Anand; Hogan, Patrick 
>>>>>> (ARC-PX);
>>>>>> Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C 
>>>>>> Fortunato
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Inspiring Nikos, and thank you for your amazing commitment. I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> I was
>>>>>> thinking of you (even though we haven't met in person) during
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> tough days this summer with your country's financial issues and
>>>>>> hope
>>>>>> things become better!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing we can do is continue to work in small subteams toward
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> after funding and then keep trying to leverage those
>>>>>> collaborative
>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>> in other funding opportunities. A sort of hybrid open source
>>>>>> grant-getting I guess, between subsets of our community members
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> shared visions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:03 PM, <labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read all this discussion which is very interesting. I would
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> add my experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In general I agree with Patrick because in our times nothing is
>>>>>> easy to
>>>>>> done without funding. Yes, not easy but not impossible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When, three years ago, I applied for the establishment of the
>>>>>> Hellenic
>>>>>> digital earth Centre of Excellence I was asked who is going to
>>>>>> finance
>>>>>> the Centre. I said, no one. They couldn’t believe that it will
>>>>>> work. I
>>>>>> said that it will be supported by volunteers. And, if it works
>>>>>> then it
>>>>>> will be great, if it doesn’t then we have nothing to lose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After three years the Centre has a lot of activities to show, 
>>>>>> lot
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> seminars and workshops, and lot of teaching materials for the
>>>>>> teachers
>>>>>> and students. The only problem is that we can’t do things
>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have spent a lot of money from my pocket and I will keep 
>>>>>> spending
>>>>>> until
>>>>>> the Centre gets funding. I am not going to quit. Everything 
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> easier if the Centre was funded (I have tried it but haven’t
>>>>>> succeeded
>>>>>> yet due to the financial crisis in Greece) but me and my
>>>>>> colleagues will
>>>>>> keep working for the Centre.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the spirit. Don’t lose your courage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wishes to all wonderful people of the network
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dept. of Primary Education
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greece, GR-54124
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel. +30 2310 991201
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email: labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Web pages: _http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography/_
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/_
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Christopher Tucker [mailto:christopher.tucker at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:christopher.tucker at gmail.com>]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand
>>>>>> *Cc:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron C Fortunato
>>>>>> (ron at trilliumlearning.com <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really appreciate what Patrick is trying to communicate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a "startup guy" who has started up a number of things, I
>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>> his characterization of what it takes to succeed without a large
>>>>>> purse!
>>>>>>    - "a combination of a ridiculous amount of politicking,
>>>>>> sorcery,
>>>>>> favors, friendships, good luck, and just plain stupendous
>>>>>> investment of
>>>>>> work, blue-collar, grass-root, white-collar, directorial work,
>>>>>> then more
>>>>>> work." !!!!  ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question to Patrick is "what is the minimum purse size to get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> attention of the vast majority of our target population.  $10k
>>>>>> might be
>>>>>> feasible.  $250k would not be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I share your (Suchith) enthusiasm, and am happy to move forward
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> a huge purse, just to get the word out, without any illusions
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> will get the response that a large purse would enable. Patrick, 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> believe is spot on.  But, alas, starting things up is a painful
>>>>>> process
>>>>>> that startup folks have to embrace!  ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>>> Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>>> The MapStory Foundation
>>>>>> @MapStory
>>>>>> tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Suchith Anand
>>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Patrick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      I know it is hard work but if we want to expand 
>>>>>> geoeducation
>>>>>> using
>>>>>>      Open principles to schools globally , i see this as a great
>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      What is suggest is if MapStory Foundation (Chris, Jon) are
>>>>>> happy to
>>>>>>      do what Maria Brovelli and Politecnico di Milano did for
>>>>>> Europa
>>>>>>      challenge then that is a good starting point. More
>>>>>> importantly, the
>>>>>>      competion will help spread wide awareness among teacher
>>>>>> community
>>>>>>      worldwide that there is an alternative to ArcGIS Online and
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>      freely make use of MapStory if they want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      We will request all our labs to send the info. out to their
>>>>>>      students, so even if we get 20 labs to participate in the
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> year
>>>>>>      it is a good start. Because the entry level is low (they do
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> even
>>>>>>      need to be programmers!) we will have more participation.
>>>>>> Slowly
>>>>>>      based on experience we will build upon it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Chris - what do you think? Will you be able to provide
>>>>>> background
>>>>>>      support for this competition?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Suchith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>>>      <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>>>      *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:54 AM
>>>>>>      *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>>>      *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>      Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>      (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>      C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>      *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Suchith,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      You need the cold trout treatment, one good whack upside 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> head!
>>>>>>      $1,000 is peanuts. It’s a financial fig-leaf. A  very nice
>>>>>> gesture
>>>>>>      but not anything that will drive interest. Nor will judging
>>>>>> panels
>>>>>>      **unless** they are ‘required’ to find contestant teams. 
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>>      good ones are hard to find, even without them working to
>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>      contestant teams. I am just trying to let you know, that 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> level
>>>>>>      of activity to generate ‘’real’ tangible interest is a
>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>      of a ridiculous amount of politicking, sorcery, favors,
>>>>>> friendships,
>>>>>>      good luck, and just plain stupendous investment of work,
>>>>>>      blue-collar, grass-root, white-collar, directorial work,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>      work. Do not be fooled that a good idea gets a good
>>>>>> following. You
>>>>>>      will need to pound the bushes long and hard. I’m trying to
>>>>>> sober
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>      up now rather than have you face disappointment later. And 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>      love to be completely off-base here. Just giving you a bit
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>      from my three-year experience. And without Prof Maria
>>>>>> Brovelli and
>>>>>>      Politecnico di Milano at Como, we would have never even
>>>>>> gotten off
>>>>>>      the ground!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      -Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      (650) 604-5656 <tel:%28650%29%20604-5656> (office)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      (650) 269-2788 <tel:%28650%29%20269-2788> (cell)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      *From:*Suchith Anand 
>>>>>> [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>>      *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:22 PM
>>>>>>      *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); Suchith Anand; Christopher
>>>>>> Tucker
>>>>>>      *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>      Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>      (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>      C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>      *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Oh, i now understand . True, we do not have a big purse but
>>>>>> atleast
>>>>>>      we can start with the 1000USD that we have from OSGeo. I 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> also
>>>>>>      send requests to ICA and ISPRS to contribute. But you are
>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>      right, this is something we need to think of how to attract
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>      participation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      But IMHO , more than the prize money, it is also getting 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> judging
>>>>>>      panels, infrastucture etc in place that is hard work. With
>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>      platform in place (and we will need to get bit of help from
>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>      Jon to setup a dedicated website and introductory tutorial
>>>>>> links,
>>>>>>      instructions to teachers, participants etc) we are well
>>>>>> placed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Suchith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>>>      <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>>>      *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:10 AM
>>>>>>      *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>>>      *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>      Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>      (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>      C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>      *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Suchith,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      That’s  what I am trying to inform you of. You can promote
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>      worldwide and with plenty of chutzpah, but without a big
>>>>>> purse
>>>>>>      ($$$), you just don’t get traction. Without a big purse
>>>>>> (which
>>>>>>      attracts too many teams to judge on this scale anyway, you
>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>      actually find the teams directly (I mean **directly**), 
>>>>>> then
>>>>>>      encourage others accordingly (*directly*). I’d like to be
>>>>>> wrong or
>>>>>>      at least rich so I could help more with the ($$$). But I am
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>      letting you know, it’s not a **promote it** and they will
>>>>>> come’
>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>      of success story. You need to fight it hand-to-hand down in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>      “mud, blood and beer” (from ‘A Boy Named Sue’ by Johnny
>>>>>> Cash).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      -Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      *From:*Suchith Anand 
>>>>>> [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>>      *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:58 PM
>>>>>>      *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); Suchith Anand; Christopher
>>>>>> Tucker
>>>>>>      *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>      Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>      (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>      C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>      *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Patrick,   We have to put lot of efforts to get prospective
>>>>>> teams to
>>>>>>      apply but i am confident if we plan the MapStory 
>>>>>> competition
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>      work hard to get it launched at Geography2050 and promote 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> through
>>>>>>      all our networks (ICA, OSGeo, ISPRS etc) , we will get good
>>>>>>      response. The   Barbara Petchenik Competition map drawing
>>>>>>      competition for children run by ICA is an excellent example
>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>      should look into .  The aim of the contest is to promote 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>      creative representation of the world in graphic form by
>>>>>> children.
>>>>>>      Details are at http://icaci.org/petchenik/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      With MapStory Challenge , we can now open up new
>>>>>> opportunities for
>>>>>>      high school level students and their teachers to also
>>>>>> participate in
>>>>>>      the G4A Student competitions at the main FOSS4G conference.
>>>>>> Also
>>>>>>      MapStory is a good example of spatial learning platform we
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>      encourage for expanding geoeducation for schools as an
>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>      to proprietary ones and having a dedicated competition will
>>>>>> be big
>>>>>>      boost for our efforts. We will need lot of efforts to get a
>>>>>> good
>>>>>>      system in place for the competition. All ideas/inputs
>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      The Europa Challenge as we discussed, we will expand with
>>>>>> Research
>>>>>>      Data Alliance IGs to setup  G4A-RDA-NASA "Smart City
>>>>>> challenge".
>>>>>>      With Ron's and Charlie's help i am sure we will be able to
>>>>>> expand
>>>>>>      this also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Suchith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>>>      <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>>>      *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 1:59 AM
>>>>>>      *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>>>      *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>      Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>      (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>      C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>      *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Suchith,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      So I am the ‘spiritual brain’ of the Europa Challenge?!
>>>>>> There’s an
>>>>>>      oxymoron for you! Or something quite beyond, yet still
>>>>>> adding
>>>>>> things
>>>>>>      up, a kind of Sufi Astrophysicist or Banking Buddha (a.k.a.
>>>>>> It’s a
>>>>>>      Wonderful Life).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      The one thing to know is that it is nowhere near ‘build it
>>>>>> and they
>>>>>>      will come.’ You must blow on the coals round-the-clock with
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>      might. . .inquire, nurture, sustain, cajole, threaten and
>>>>>> beg
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>      prospective teams to apply themselves to the ‘worthy’
>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Another thought is to benefit from what Ron Fortunato is
>>>>>> doing with
>>>>>>      www.aWorldBridge.com <http://www.aWorldBridge.com>, whether
>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>      Global Earthquake Forecast System or the environmental
>>>>>> evaluation
>>>>>>      work Ron is doing with Charlie Schweik. Both have lots of
>>>>>> tech,
>>>>>>      plenty of science and all geospatial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.edlinesites.net/pages/America_Bridge_Project/Europa_Challenge/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      https://westemthefuture.wordpress.com/summer-2015/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      -Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      (650) 604-5656 <tel:%28650%29%20604-5656> (office)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      (650) 269-2788 <tel:%28650%29%20269-2788> (cell)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      *From:*Suchith Anand 
>>>>>> [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>>      *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 1:20 PM
>>>>>>      *To:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>      <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>      *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>      Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Hogan, Patrick
>>>>>> (ARC-PX)
>>>>>>      *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Excellent Chris. Let us then plan ideas for this with Jon
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> others
>>>>>>      to make this happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      The good news is we now have the mandate and opportunity to
>>>>>> fully
>>>>>>      organise the Student competitions for FOSS4G events (both
>>>>>> global
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>      regional) and i believe competitions build on MapStory
>>>>>> platform
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>      be excellent for widening participation (esp. to school
>>>>>> level).I
>>>>>>      think the biggest advantage of using MapStory platform in
>>>>>> addition
>>>>>>      to its openness is also the simplicity. So schools with 
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> little
>>>>>>      resources even in developing countries canalso participate
>>>>>> (all
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>      need is an internet connected PC )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Ela (cc in) is already planning our inputs for FOSS4G 2016
>>>>>> Bonn and
>>>>>>      having Geo4All MapStory Challenge put in place, which we 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> aim to
>>>>>>      runevery year at FOSS4G main conference will be excellent
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>      spreading the message and building up global momentum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Patrick (cc in) is the spiritual brain behind the 
>>>>>> successful
>>>>>> Europa
>>>>>>      challenge http://eurochallenge.como.polimi.itI am sure he
>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>      happy to share any inputs needs from his experiences andwe
>>>>>> canlearn
>>>>>>      many things from Europa challenge, for example having
>>>>>> student
>>>>>> teams
>>>>>>      to participate (each team with a teacher and 3-5 students).
>>>>>> This
>>>>>>      will also help us to expand the Teacher Training activities
>>>>>> using
>>>>>>      MapStory platform.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Geography2050 will be an excellent platform to launch this
>>>>>>      initiative (if you are attending this, then please use that
>>>>>>      opportunity to launch this). This empowerment of teachers
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> students
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      and openness is what we want Geography education to look in
>>>>>> 2050.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Suchith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      PS: Don't worry ,Next time you are at Nottingham, i will
>>>>>> make
>>>>>>      arrangements so you can be at England’s first pub :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      *From:*Christopher Tucker [tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>>>      <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>]
>>>>>>      *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:36 PM
>>>>>>      *To:* Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>      <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>      *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>      Marino
>>>>>>      *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Suchith,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      You rock.What a great idea.Would love to support this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      I am not at the Nottingham meetings.Wish I were!Last time I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>      there, I was hoping to go to England’s first pub, but I
>>>>>> missed it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      I would love to move the ball forward on a Geo4All MapStory
>>>>>>      Challenge.Let me research how the Europa Challenge
>>>>>> unfolded.I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>>      afraid I did not watch it closely enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Any general input on how we should think about 
>>>>>> this?November
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>      be a good timeframe for doing something.Our relaunched site
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>      coming imminentlyAnd, we have a few features and bugs that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>      to clear out by mid-October.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Thanks for thinking of us!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>>>      Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>>>      The MapStory Foundation
>>>>>>      @MapStory
>>>>>>      tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>>>      703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              *From:*Suchith Anand 
>>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>              <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>>>              *Date:* September 15, 2015 at 8:47:54 AM EDT
>>>>>>              *To:* Christopher Tucker <tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>>>              <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>>, Suchith Anand
>>>>>>              <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>              <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>>>              *Cc:* "labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>"
>>>>>>              <labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>>,
>>>>>>              Jonathan Marino <marino at mapstory.org
>>>>>>              <mailto:marino at mapstory.org>>
>>>>>>              *Subject:* *"Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Hi Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Hope you are doing well Are you participating in 
>>>>>> OGC
>>>>>>              Nottingham meetings?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Will need to plan ideas for more collaborations
>>>>>> forMapStory.
>>>>>>              From the success of Patrick's Europa challenge, i 
>>>>>> am
>>>>>>              thinking of having a similar challenge for MapStory
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              I saw details of http://www.geography2050.org
>>>>>>              <http://www.geography2050.org/>. May i suggest that
>>>>>> we use
>>>>>>              this opportunity to launch "Geo4All - MapStory
>>>>>> Challenge" .
>>>>>>              Geo4All will also be pleased to be one of the
>>>>>> symposium
>>>>>>              partners for Geography 2050. What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Suchith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              *From:*Christopher Tucker [tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>>>              <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>]
>>>>>>              *Sent:* Saturday, July 04, 2015 1:04 AM
>>>>>>              *To:* Suchith Anand
>>>>>>              *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>              Jonathan Marino
>>>>>>              *Subject:* Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS
>>>>>> into
>>>>>>              geospatial education
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Suchith,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Sorry for my delay.I did not see this email when it
>>>>>> first
>>>>>>              came across my inbox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Nikos,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Unfortunately, my Greek is not very good! ;-)But, I
>>>>>> did
>>>>>>              click on some of the links.And, some of them are
>>>>>> clearly
>>>>>>              about change over time.These are perfect for
>>>>>> MapStory.org
>>>>>>              <http://mapstory.org/>!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              As for mapping local history, an early leader in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>              MapStory community, Nitin Gadia mapped his home
>>>>>> town,
>>>>>> Ames
>>>>>>              Iowa, building by building and parcel by parcel 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> 1862
>>>>>>              until now:http://mapstory.org/maps/475/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              He did this in 80 hours of his own time, getting
>>>>>> data
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>              the city, state, and Ames Historical Society and
>>>>>> putting it
>>>>>>              in to MapStory.In retrospect, he was sure he could
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> done
>>>>>>              the same in 5 hours.So, he dubbed his effort
>>>>>> “MapStory
>>>>>>              Local” and put together a cookbook that people 
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>              in their home towns.
>>>>>>              (http://wiki.mapstory.org/wiki/MapStory_Local,
>>>>>>              http://www.thenittygritty.org/mapstorylocal).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              And, he is not really a GIS guy.Just a reasonably
>>>>>> smart guy
>>>>>>              who had a goal.So, I think the same thing could be
>>>>>> done by
>>>>>>              smart high-school kids around the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Of course, there are many other cool 
>>>>>> spatio-temporal
>>>>>>              datasets and stories that students and classes 
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> put
>>>>>>              together and share as part of interesting learning
>>>>>> experiences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              We would be happy to talk if you think there is any
>>>>>> value in
>>>>>>              MapStory to you and your classes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Let me know if we can be of help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>>>              Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>>>              The MapStory Foundation
>>>>>>              @MapStory
>>>>>>              tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>>>              703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              On Jun 21, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Suchith Anand
>>>>>>              <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>              <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Thanks Nikos for sharing this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              I am ccing Chrisas well, as maybe we can think of
>>>>>> ideas of
>>>>>>              enabling this "The introduction of GIS and GPS
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> local
>>>>>>              history teaching in primary school"using MapStory,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>              other teachers can start using the idea for thier
>>>>>> teaching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Chris - what do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Suchith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              ________________________________________
>>>>>>              From: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>              [labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>]
>>>>>>              Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:47 PM
>>>>>>              To: 'Suchith Anand'
>>>>>>              Cc: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>              Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS into
>>>>>>              geospatial education
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Dear Suchith,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              This is exactly what the Hellenic digital earth
>>>>>> Centre of
>>>>>>              Excellence is
>>>>>>              doing the last two years. We use ArcGIS Online in
>>>>>> primary
>>>>>>              schools and the
>>>>>>              children have done wonderful job like, tourist maps
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>              village etc.
>>>>>>              You can see these maps in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/index.php/el/newsmodule/2015-05-14-20-50-38/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              schoolrelated which is in Greek but you can have an
>>>>>> idea of
>>>>>>              what we have
>>>>>>              achieved almost with no cost. The students have 
>>>>>> been
>>>>>>              responding responsibly
>>>>>>              and this gives us more courage to continue in the
>>>>>> coming
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>              Anyone interested in this can download the article
>>>>>> "The
>>>>>>              introduction of GIS
>>>>>>              and GPS through local history teaching in primary
>>>>>> school" from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.eurogeographyjournal.eu/articles/2.THE%20INTRODUCTION%20OF%20GIS%
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <http://www.eurogeographyjournal.eu/articles/2.THE%20INTRODUCTION%20OF%20GIS%25>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 20AND%20GPS%20THROUGH%20LOCAL%20HISTORY%20TEACHING%20IN%20PRIMARY%20SCHOOL-2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Best regards
>>>>>>              Nikos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              -----------
>>>>>>              Dr. Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>              Associate Professor
>>>>>>              Dept. of Primary Education
>>>>>>              Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki
>>>>>>              Greece, GR-54124
>>>>>>              Tel. +30 2310 991201
>>>>>>              Email: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>              Web pages:
>>>>>> http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography/
>>>>>>              http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>              From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>>>              <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>>>              [mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>              Suchith Anand
>>>>>>              Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 7:26 PM
>>>>>>              To: Mueller, Thomas; Vaclav Petras; ICA OSGeo Labs
>>>>>> list
>>>>>>              Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS into
>>>>>>              geospatial education
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Great work Vaclav.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              I understand from Dr. Christopher K Tucker 
>>>>>> (Chairman
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>              Board of
>>>>>>              Trustees, The MapStory Foundation) cc in that when
>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>              http://MapStory.org <http://mapstory.org/>
>>>>>> relaunched
>>>>>> later
>>>>>>              in June, it will be an openly licensed
>>>>>>              data commons, an Open Educational Resource, that is
>>>>>> OGC
>>>>>>              compliant, built on
>>>>>>              open source geohttp://www.GeoNode.org
>>>>>>              <http://www.geonode.org/> .It is intended 
>>>>>> explicitly
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>              students to be able to organize and share what they
>>>>>> know
>>>>>>              about the world
>>>>>>              spatially and temporally.And, in the redesign, they
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> open up
>>>>>>              distributed versioned editing of change over time,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>              students can
>>>>>>              collaborate on data collection projects, and then
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>              own stories
>>>>>>              with this data. This is exactly the kind of spatial
>>>>>> learning
>>>>>>              platform we
>>>>>>              need for expanding geoeducation for schools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              I suggest that,GeoForAll should support and make 
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>              ofMapStory.org <http://mapstory.org/>,
>>>>>>              as an alternative to proprietary ones like
>>>>>> ArcGISOnline, so
>>>>>>              that students
>>>>>>              and teachers can make use of this for learning
>>>>>> purposes
>>>>>>              without being
>>>>>>              dependent on the mercy of the proprietary vendor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Please let me know your thoughts/ideas. We will add
>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>              to our training
>>>>>>              resources section and promote this to all 
>>>>>> educators.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Suchith
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