[FOSS4G2016] "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student Competitions

Christopher Tucker christopher.tucker at gmail.com
Wed Sep 30 15:55:58 PDT 2015


Amen.  yes.  Getting $1k will not be a problem.  The question is what is our high end financial exposure to make this work.

Chris
703-981-9373



> On Sep 30, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Marc vloemans <marcvloemans1 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Suggestion; MapStory....Boundless....sponsor for related....
> 
> Vriendelijke groet,
> Marc Vloemans
> 
> 
>> Op 30 sep. 2015 om 17:32 heeft till.adams at fossgis.de het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi Suchith,
>> 
>> perfect - if anything we do would be that easy ;-)
>> 
>> Regards, Till
>> 
>> 
>> Am 2015-09-30 17:26, schrieb Suchith Anand:
>>> Thanks Till. That is excellent idea. I also see no reason why we
>>> should limit to only one student competition. So we will have an OSGeo
>>> award based on OSGeo projects and also awards for any additional
>>> student competitions.
>>> 
>>> I will discuss with MapStory colleagues (and i am confident we will
>>> be able to find a sponsor for the "Geo4All-MapStory Challenge" ).
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Suchith
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: till.adams at fossgis.de [till.adams at fossgis.de]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:20 PM
>>> To: Suchith Anand
>>> Cc: Jeff McKenna; Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino;
>>> Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik;
>>> Nikos Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); list
>>> Subject: RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
>>> Competitions
>>> 
>>> Hi Suchith,
>>>> 
>>>> The main principle for Geo4All  is Openness in GeoEducation. So we
>>>> will follow up this idea in Geo4All. We can make this an "Geo4All -
>>>> MapStory Challenge" ; (not for the main FOSS4G conference) but for
>>>> some other opportunities in the future .  I will discuss ideas for
>>>> that in the Geo4All lists and get everyone's inputs/ideas on how we
>>>> can make that happen.
>>> 
>>> why not including that award also into the FOSS4G as well? In Seoul
>>> there have been two student awards and I do not see a problem for this
>>> at all. All i wanted to, is to make sure, that we have an OSgeo award
>>> based on OSGeo projects on the conference, and I guess that is, what
>>> Jeff also supports.
>>> 
>>> Till
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Suchith
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: till.adams at fossgis.de [till.adams at fossgis.de]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 3:33 PM
>>>> To: Jeff McKenna
>>>> Cc: Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik; Nikos
>>>> Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); list
>>>> Subject: Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
>>>> Competitions
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I follow Jeffs argumentation, I didn't check for the license of
>>>> MapStory. In general it is like Jeff told: If this is an OSGeo event,
>>>> at
>>>> least for the OSgeo award (and I do not see any alternative on that)
>>>> should follow OSGeo guidelines.
>>>> 
>>>> So in general I stand also and support an OSgeo student award based
>>>> on
>>>> OSGeo projects.
>>>> 
>>>> If there is another award (like in Seoul there was) which is paid by
>>>> someone else, the guidelines might be different.
>>>> 
>>>> (and I added the f4g 2016 local team list in the "CC's")
>>>> 
>>>> Till
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 2015-09-29 21:39, schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>>>>> OSGeo has about 10 projects in incubation, actually craving for
>>>>> attention, publicity, help, to build their community, plus over 20
>>>>> full OSGeo projects also wanting to continue building their strong
>>>>> communities.  If we are speaking of FOSS4G regional events, that are
>>>>> actually not hosted by OSGeo, of course, please do promote any
>>>>> software, but since this original message was in regards to FOSS4G
>>>>> 2016 and sent directly to Till, the chair, yes I must make a stand,
>>>>> for all of our projects in incubation and under our umbrella - the
>>>>> student awards are a perfect place to promote our projects, as I've
>>>>> said before, as students are the future of the industry.  Getting
>>>>> students using these projects is one of the keys to success for our
>>>>> community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope this thread now moves to the public lists, where you can
>>>>> share
>>>>> my thoughts as-is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anyone has thoughts that I am not open to other communities: I go
>>>>> out of my way to accept other communities and projects (I even
>>>>> worked
>>>>> with Esri developers as part of a past FOSS4G benchmarking exercise
>>>>> in
>>>>> 2009).  But for the closing plenary of our big event, the eyes of
>>>>> OSGeo are on us, and yes we must promote our community's software.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I realize that I may be the only one making this stand.  But, as
>>>>> OSGeo President, as a founding co-chair of GeoForAll, as one of the
>>>>> 3
>>>>> founders of FOSS4G, I hope you listen to my opinion and then discuss
>>>>> this with the GeoForAll community (talking is important).  Decisions
>>>>> like this might seem minor, but impact a lot of people.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> -jeff
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jeff McKenna
>>>>> President, OSGeo
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2015-09-29 3:54 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Suchith,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is unfortunate that you suggest removing OSGeo's sponsorship,
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> drastic.  I also never mentioned any project by name.  I did
>>>>>> however
>>>>>> request that you follow these guidelines for future FOSS4G events.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> is unfortunate that you disagree.  In that case, please do bring
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> discussion public (it should not be a private thread with just me
>>>>>> defending OSGeo in its own conference).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can tell you that I get feedback (imagine in the closing plenary
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> FOSSS4G, in a big room filled with OSGeo project leads and
>>>>>> developers)
>>>>>> and then seeing software that is not truly Open Source and OSGeo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are lots of conferences and events, but FOSS4G is hosted by
>>>>>> OSGeo,
>>>>>> and we must promote our projects.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please do bring this to the public list.  You can leave all of my
>>>>>> words
>>>>>> as-is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2015-09-29 3:48 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apologies if i did not correctly understand correctly. My humble
>>>>>>> opinion is that we have to be Open minded NOT narrow minded in
>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>> of education. I cannot understand why MapStory platform cannot be
>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>> for running a student competition.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From what i understand, MapStory is an openly licensed data
>>>>>>>> commons,
>>>>>>>> an Open Educational Resource, that is OGC  compliant, built on
>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>> source geo http://www.GeoNode.org. It is intended explicitly for
>>>>>>>> students to be able to organize and share what they know about
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> world spatially and temporally.This is exactly the kind of
>>>>>>>> spatial
>>>>>>>> learning platform we need for expanding geoeducation for schools.
>>>>>>>> Just because it is not an OSGeo project does not mean it should
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> not be used. The main principle we need to look into is Openness
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> GeoEducation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We should support and make use ofMapStory.org , as an alternative
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> proprietary ones like ArcGISOnline, so that students and teachers
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> make use of this for learning purposes without being dependent on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> mercy of the proprietary vendor.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For me , OSGeo represents Openness and welcome to everyone who
>>>>>>> follows
>>>>>>> the ideals. If we want to truly expand Geoeducation  then please
>>>>>>> welcome and support other initiatives into OSGeo and not look down
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> them  (just because they are not OSGeo projects). This is the kind
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> spirit that we need , if we truly want to expand geoeducation
>>>>>>> opportunities for all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you think the 1k USD sponsorship for student awards is the
>>>>>>> issue,
>>>>>>> then no problem , we can try to find another sponsor who will be
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> minded to support this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Jeff McKenna [jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:42 PM
>>>>>>> To: Suchith Anand; till.adams at fossgis.de
>>>>>>> Cc: Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik; Nikos
>>>>>>> Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
>>>>>>> Competitions
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Suchith, Till, all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think if we are speaking openly now, we should always remember
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> the global FOSS4G is hosted by the OSGeo foundation; in that
>>>>>>> sense,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> feel that it is extremely important to showcase the OSGeo software
>>>>>>> projects, and yes, especially to the students.  What I saw at some
>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>> FOSS4G events was student competitions based around other software
>>>>>>> (software that has nothing to do with OSGeo's event in fact, and
>>>>>>> arguably software that is not even truly Open Source).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In terms of branding, this is a small detail but if we follow
>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> helps expand the name OSGeo, point out our strong standards and
>>>>>>> benefits
>>>>>>> of being a part of the OSGeo community, and helps the foundation
>>>>>>> grow
>>>>>>> globally.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This could also be a great time to discuss these other projects
>>>>>>> that you
>>>>>>> like to promote to enter into the OSGeo umbrella, through our
>>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>>> process.  There is a whole team of volunteers willing to help
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I hope we can always keep this in mind, for each and every
>>>>>>> FOSS4G
>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jeff McKenna
>>>>>>> President, OSGeo
>>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2015-09-29 2:32 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Till,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like to start putting our ideas for  the Student
>>>>>>>> competition for
>>>>>>>> FOSS4G 2016. You can get some ideas of our thinking based on our
>>>>>>>> discussions below.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Our thinking is to organise the Student competitions for FOSS4G
>>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>>> conference using the MapStory platform as it will be excellent
>>>>>>>> tool for
>>>>>>>> widening participation (esp. to school level). The biggest
>>>>>>>> advantage of
>>>>>>>> using MapStory platform in addition to its openness is also the
>>>>>>>> simplicity. So schools with very little resources even in
>>>>>>>> developing
>>>>>>>> countries can also participate (all they need is an internet
>>>>>>>> connected
>>>>>>>> PC ).Having Geo4All MapStory Challenge put in place, which we can
>>>>>>>> aim to
>>>>>>>> run every year at FOSS4G main conference will be excellent for
>>>>>>>> spreading
>>>>>>>> the message and building up global momentum.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Based on feedbacks from the community, Geo4All will  do the
>>>>>>>> background
>>>>>>>> work of the competition (in close links with the LOC and MapStory
>>>>>>>> Foundation).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With MapStory Challenge , we can now open up new opportunities
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>>> school level students and their teachers to also participate in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Student competitions at the main FOSS4G conference. Also MapStory
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> good example of spatial learning platform we want to encourage
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> expanding geoeducation for schools as an alternative to
>>>>>>>> proprietary ones
>>>>>>>> and having a dedicated competition will be big boost for our
>>>>>>>> efforts. We
>>>>>>>> will need lot of efforts to get a good system in place for the
>>>>>>>> competition.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also to make it clear - We have only small budget (maximum 1000
>>>>>>>> USD )
>>>>>>>> from the OSGeo Foundation  for the Student Awards . Maybe some
>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>> might join in (like in Seoul, though we cannot confirm as of now)
>>>>>>>> BUT we
>>>>>>>> are very lucky to have a dedicated team of amazing people who
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>> us make this possible including support from Chris Tucker of
>>>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>>> Foundation  for providing the competition platform.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We look forward to your ideas/inputs on how we can move forward.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:39 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Charles Schweik; Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith Anand; Jonathan Marino;
>>>>>>>> Elżbieta
>>>>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nikos and Chris,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Howdy! I just wanted to chime in with what Charlie has to say. It
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> very encouraging to hear the words of Nikos and sense the level
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> dedication and commitment to excellence. We often feel ourselves
>>>>>>>> as very
>>>>>>>> lonely peaceful warriors for a better world, but in fact there
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>> pressing forward with all their might, so that the future might
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> better for all. Without a better future, there is none. We must
>>>>>>>> all be
>>>>>>>> as informed as possible as to the state of our world. This is
>>>>>>>> greatly
>>>>>>>> helped if we can share our story, and it should feel good to
>>>>>>>> share, or
>>>>>>>> if not good, at least feel like we are helping truth to be more
>>>>>>>> visible.
>>>>>>>> A life with purpose is a full one that reverberates deeply in the
>>>>>>>> sweetest possible way.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *From:*Charles Schweik [mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:20 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith Anand; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX);
>>>>>>>> Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Inspiring Nikos, and thank you for your amazing commitment. I
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> I was
>>>>>>>> thinking of you (even though we haven't met in person) during
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>> tough days this summer with your country's financial issues and
>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>> things become better!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One thing we can do is continue to work in small subteams toward
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>> after funding and then keep trying to leverage those
>>>>>>>> collaborative
>>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>>> in other funding opportunities. A sort of hybrid open source
>>>>>>>> grant-getting I guess, between subsets of our community members
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> shared visions.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:03 PM, <labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I read all this discussion which is very interesting. I would
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> add my experience.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In general I agree with Patrick because in our times nothing is
>>>>>>>> easy to
>>>>>>>> done without funding. Yes, not easy but not impossible.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When, three years ago, I applied for the establishment of the
>>>>>>>> Hellenic
>>>>>>>> digital earth Centre of Excellence I was asked who is going to
>>>>>>>> finance
>>>>>>>> the Centre. I said, no one. They couldn’t believe that it will
>>>>>>>> work. I
>>>>>>>> said that it will be supported by volunteers. And, if it works
>>>>>>>> then it
>>>>>>>> will be great, if it doesn’t then we have nothing to lose.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> After three years the Centre has a lot of activities to show, lot
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> seminars and workshops, and lot of teaching materials for the
>>>>>>>> teachers
>>>>>>>> and students. The only problem is that we can’t do things
>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have spent a lot of money from my pocket and I will keep spending
>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>> the Centre gets funding. I am not going to quit. Everything would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> easier if the Centre was funded (I have tried it but haven’t
>>>>>>>> succeeded
>>>>>>>> yet due to the financial crisis in Greece) but me and my
>>>>>>>> colleagues will
>>>>>>>> keep working for the Centre.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is the spirit. Don’t lose your courage.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wishes to all wonderful people of the network
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dr. Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dept. of Primary Education
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Greece, GR-54124
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tel. +30 2310 991201
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Email: labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Web pages: _http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography/_
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/_
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *From:*Christopher Tucker [mailto:christopher.tucker at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:christopher.tucker at gmail.com>]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>>>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron C Fortunato
>>>>>>>> (ron at trilliumlearning.com <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I really appreciate what Patrick is trying to communicate.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As a "startup guy" who has started up a number of things, I
>>>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>>>> his characterization of what it takes to succeed without a large
>>>>>>>> purse!
>>>>>>>>  - "a combination of a ridiculous amount of politicking,
>>>>>>>> sorcery,
>>>>>>>> favors, friendships, good luck, and just plain stupendous
>>>>>>>> investment of
>>>>>>>> work, blue-collar, grass-root, white-collar, directorial work,
>>>>>>>> then more
>>>>>>>> work." !!!!  ;-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My question to Patrick is "what is the minimum purse size to get
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> attention of the vast majority of our target population.  $10k
>>>>>>>> might be
>>>>>>>> feasible.  $250k would not be.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I share your (Suchith) enthusiasm, and am happy to move forward
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> a huge purse, just to get the word out, without any illusions
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> will get the response that a large purse would enable. Patrick, I
>>>>>>>> believe is spot on.  But, alas, starting things up is a painful
>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>> that startup folks have to embrace!  ;-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>>>>> Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>>>>> The MapStory Foundation
>>>>>>>> @MapStory
>>>>>>>> tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Suchith Anand
>>>>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Patrick,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    I know it is hard work but if we want to expand geoeducation
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>    Open principles to schools globally , i see this as a great
>>>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    What is suggest is if MapStory Foundation (Chris, Jon) are
>>>>>>>> happy to
>>>>>>>>    do what Maria Brovelli and Politecnico di Milano did for
>>>>>>>> Europa
>>>>>>>>    challenge then that is a good starting point. More
>>>>>>>> importantly, the
>>>>>>>>    competion will help spread wide awareness among teacher
>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>    worldwide that there is an alternative to ArcGIS Online and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>    freely make use of MapStory if they want.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    We will request all our labs to send the info. out to their
>>>>>>>>    students, so even if we get 20 labs to participate in the
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>    it is a good start. Because the entry level is low (they do
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>    need to be programmers!) we will have more participation.
>>>>>>>> Slowly
>>>>>>>>    based on experience we will build upon it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Chris - what do you think? Will you be able to provide
>>>>>>>> background
>>>>>>>>    support for this competition?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Suchith
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>>>>>    <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>>>>>    *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:54 AM
>>>>>>>>    *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>>>>>    *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>    Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>>>    (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>>>    C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>>>    *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Suchith,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    You need the cold trout treatment, one good whack upside the
>>>>>>>> head!
>>>>>>>>    $1,000 is peanuts. It’s a financial fig-leaf. A  very nice
>>>>>>>> gesture
>>>>>>>>    but not anything that will drive interest. Nor will judging
>>>>>>>> panels
>>>>>>>>    **unless** they are ‘required’ to find contestant teams. And
>>>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>>>>    good ones are hard to find, even without them working to
>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>    contestant teams. I am just trying to let you know, that the
>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>    of activity to generate ‘’real’ tangible interest is a
>>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>>>    of a ridiculous amount of politicking, sorcery, favors,
>>>>>>>> friendships,
>>>>>>>>    good luck, and just plain stupendous investment of work,
>>>>>>>>    blue-collar, grass-root, white-collar, directorial work,
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>    work. Do not be fooled that a good idea gets a good
>>>>>>>> following. You
>>>>>>>>    will need to pound the bushes long and hard. I’m trying to
>>>>>>>> sober
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>    up now rather than have you face disappointment later. And I
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>    love to be completely off-base here. Just giving you a bit
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>    from my three-year experience. And without Prof Maria
>>>>>>>> Brovelli and
>>>>>>>>    Politecnico di Milano at Como, we would have never even
>>>>>>>> gotten off
>>>>>>>>    the ground!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    -Patrick
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    (650) 604-5656 <tel:%28650%29%20604-5656> (office)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    (650) 269-2788 <tel:%28650%29%20269-2788> (cell)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    *From:*Suchith Anand [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>>>>    *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:22 PM
>>>>>>>>    *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); Suchith Anand; Christopher
>>>>>>>> Tucker
>>>>>>>>    *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>    Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>>>    (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>>>    C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>>>    *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Oh, i now understand . True, we do not have a big purse but
>>>>>>>> atleast
>>>>>>>>    we can start with the 1000USD that we have from OSGeo. I can
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>    send requests to ICA and ISPRS to contribute. But you are
>>>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>>>    right, this is something we need to think of how to attract
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>    participation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    But IMHO , more than the prize money, it is also getting the
>>>>>>>> judging
>>>>>>>>    panels, infrastucture etc in place that is hard work. With
>>>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>>>    platform in place (and we will need to get bit of help from
>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>    Jon to setup a dedicated website and introductory tutorial
>>>>>>>> links,
>>>>>>>>    instructions to teachers, participants etc) we are well
>>>>>>>> placed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Suchith
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>>>>>    <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>>>>>    *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:10 AM
>>>>>>>>    *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>>>>>    *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>    Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>>>    (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>>>    C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>>>    *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Suchith,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    That’s  what I am trying to inform you of. You can promote
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>    worldwide and with plenty of chutzpah, but without a big
>>>>>>>> purse
>>>>>>>>    ($$$), you just don’t get traction. Without a big purse
>>>>>>>> (which
>>>>>>>>    attracts too many teams to judge on this scale anyway, you
>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>    actually find the teams directly (I mean **directly**), then
>>>>>>>>    encourage others accordingly (*directly*). I’d like to be
>>>>>>>> wrong or
>>>>>>>>    at least rich so I could help more with the ($$$). But I am
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>    letting you know, it’s not a **promote it** and they will
>>>>>>>> come’
>>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>    of success story. You need to fight it hand-to-hand down in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>    “mud, blood and beer” (from ‘A Boy Named Sue’ by Johnny
>>>>>>>> Cash).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    -Patrick
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    *From:*Suchith Anand [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>>>>    *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:58 PM
>>>>>>>>    *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); Suchith Anand; Christopher
>>>>>>>> Tucker
>>>>>>>>    *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>    Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>>>    (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>>>    C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>>>    *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Patrick,   We have to put lot of efforts to get prospective
>>>>>>>> teams to
>>>>>>>>    apply but i am confident if we plan the MapStory competition
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>    work hard to get it launched at Geography2050 and promote it
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>    all our networks (ICA, OSGeo, ISPRS etc) , we will get good
>>>>>>>>    response. The   Barbara Petchenik Competition map drawing
>>>>>>>>    competition for children run by ICA is an excellent example
>>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>>>    should look into .  The aim of the contest is to promote the
>>>>>>>>    creative representation of the world in graphic form by
>>>>>>>> children.
>>>>>>>>    Details are at http://icaci.org/petchenik/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    With MapStory Challenge , we can now open up new
>>>>>>>> opportunities for
>>>>>>>>    high school level students and their teachers to also
>>>>>>>> participate in
>>>>>>>>    the G4A Student competitions at the main FOSS4G conference.
>>>>>>>> Also
>>>>>>>>    MapStory is a good example of spatial learning platform we
>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>    encourage for expanding geoeducation for schools as an
>>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>>>    to proprietary ones and having a dedicated competition will
>>>>>>>> be big
>>>>>>>>    boost for our efforts. We will need lot of efforts to get a
>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>    system in place for the competition. All ideas/inputs
>>>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    The Europa Challenge as we discussed, we will expand with
>>>>>>>> Research
>>>>>>>>    Data Alliance IGs to setup  G4A-RDA-NASA "Smart City
>>>>>>>> challenge".
>>>>>>>>    With Ron's and Charlie's help i am sure we will be able to
>>>>>>>> expand
>>>>>>>>    this also.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Suchith
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>>>>>    <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>>>>>    *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 1:59 AM
>>>>>>>>    *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>>>>>    *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>    Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>>>    (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>>>    C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>>>    *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Suchith,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    So I am the ‘spiritual brain’ of the Europa Challenge?!
>>>>>>>> There’s an
>>>>>>>>    oxymoron for you! Or something quite beyond, yet still
>>>>>>>> adding
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>    up, a kind of Sufi Astrophysicist or Banking Buddha (a.k.a.
>>>>>>>> It’s a
>>>>>>>>    Wonderful Life).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    The one thing to know is that it is nowhere near ‘build it
>>>>>>>> and they
>>>>>>>>    will come.’ You must blow on the coals round-the-clock with
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>    might. . .inquire, nurture, sustain, cajole, threaten and
>>>>>>>> beg
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>    prospective teams to apply themselves to the ‘worthy’
>>>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Another thought is to benefit from what Ron Fortunato is
>>>>>>>> doing with
>>>>>>>>    www.aWorldBridge.com <http://www.aWorldBridge.com>, whether
>>>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>    Global Earthquake Forecast System or the environmental
>>>>>>>> evaluation
>>>>>>>>    work Ron is doing with Charlie Schweik. Both have lots of
>>>>>>>> tech,
>>>>>>>>    plenty of science and all geospatial.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.edlinesites.net/pages/America_Bridge_Project/Europa_Challenge/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    https://westemthefuture.wordpress.com/summer-2015/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    -Patrick
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    (650) 604-5656 <tel:%28650%29%20604-5656> (office)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    (650) 269-2788 <tel:%28650%29%20269-2788> (cell)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    *From:*Suchith Anand [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>>>>    *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 1:20 PM
>>>>>>>>    *To:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>    <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>>    *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>    Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Hogan, Patrick
>>>>>>>> (ARC-PX)
>>>>>>>>    *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Excellent Chris. Let us then plan ideas for this with Jon
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>    to make this happen.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    The good news is we now have the mandate and opportunity to
>>>>>>>> fully
>>>>>>>>    organise the Student competitions for FOSS4G events (both
>>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>    regional) and i believe competitions build on MapStory
>>>>>>>> platform
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>    be excellent for widening participation (esp. to school
>>>>>>>> level).I
>>>>>>>>    think the biggest advantage of using MapStory platform in
>>>>>>>> addition
>>>>>>>>    to its openness is also the simplicity. So schools with very
>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>    resources even in developing countries canalso participate
>>>>>>>> (all
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>    need is an internet connected PC )
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Ela (cc in) is already planning our inputs for FOSS4G 2016
>>>>>>>> Bonn and
>>>>>>>>    having Geo4All MapStory Challenge put in place, which we can
>>>>>>>> aim to
>>>>>>>>    runevery year at FOSS4G main conference will be excellent
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>    spreading the message and building up global momentum.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Patrick (cc in) is the spiritual brain behind the successful
>>>>>>>> Europa
>>>>>>>>    challenge http://eurochallenge.como.polimi.itI am sure he
>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>>    happy to share any inputs needs from his experiences andwe
>>>>>>>> canlearn
>>>>>>>>    many things from Europa challenge, for example having
>>>>>>>> student
>>>>>>>> teams
>>>>>>>>    to participate (each team with a teacher and 3-5 students).
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>    will also help us to expand the Teacher Training activities
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>    MapStory platform.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Geography2050 will be an excellent platform to launch this
>>>>>>>>    initiative (if you are attending this, then please use that
>>>>>>>>    opportunity to launch this). This empowerment of teachers
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> students
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    and openness is what we want Geography education to look in
>>>>>>>> 2050.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Best wishes,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Suchith
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    PS: Don't worry ,Next time you are at Nottingham, i will
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>    arrangements so you can be at England’s first pub :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    *From:*Christopher Tucker [tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>>>>>    <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>]
>>>>>>>>    *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:36 PM
>>>>>>>>    *To:* Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>    <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>>    *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>    Marino
>>>>>>>>    *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Suchith,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    You rock.What a great idea.Would love to support this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    I am not at the Nottingham meetings.Wish I were!Last time I
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>    there, I was hoping to go to England’s first pub, but I
>>>>>>>> missed it!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    I would love to move the ball forward on a Geo4All MapStory
>>>>>>>>    Challenge.Let me research how the Europa Challenge
>>>>>>>> unfolded.I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>    afraid I did not watch it closely enough.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Any general input on how we should think about this?November
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>    be a good timeframe for doing something.Our relaunched site
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>    coming imminentlyAnd, we have a few features and bugs that
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>    to clear out by mid-October.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Thanks for thinking of us!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Chris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>>>>>    Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>>>>>    The MapStory Foundation
>>>>>>>>    @MapStory
>>>>>>>>    tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>>>>>    703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>        Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            *From:*Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>            <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>>>>>            *Date:* September 15, 2015 at 8:47:54 AM EDT
>>>>>>>>            *To:* Christopher Tucker <tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>>>>>            <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>>, Suchith Anand
>>>>>>>>            <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>            <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>>>>>            *Cc:* "labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>"
>>>>>>>>            <labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>>,
>>>>>>>>            Jonathan Marino <marino at mapstory.org
>>>>>>>>            <mailto:marino at mapstory.org>>
>>>>>>>>            *Subject:* *"Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Hope you are doing well Are you participating in OGC
>>>>>>>>            Nottingham meetings?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Will need to plan ideas for more collaborations
>>>>>>>> forMapStory.
>>>>>>>>            From the success of Patrick's Europa challenge, i am
>>>>>>>>            thinking of having a similar challenge for MapStory
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            I saw details of http://www.geography2050.org
>>>>>>>>            <http://www.geography2050.org/>. May i suggest that
>>>>>>>> we use
>>>>>>>>            this opportunity to launch "Geo4All - MapStory
>>>>>>>> Challenge" .
>>>>>>>>            Geo4All will also be pleased to be one of the
>>>>>>>> symposium
>>>>>>>>            partners for Geography 2050. What do you think?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Best wishes,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Suchith
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            *From:*Christopher Tucker [tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>>>>>            <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>]
>>>>>>>>            *Sent:* Saturday, July 04, 2015 1:04 AM
>>>>>>>>            *To:* Suchith Anand
>>>>>>>>            *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>>>            Jonathan Marino
>>>>>>>>            *Subject:* Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>            geospatial education
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Suchith,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Sorry for my delay.I did not see this email when it
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>            came across my inbox.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Nikos,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Unfortunately, my Greek is not very good! ;-)But, I
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>            click on some of the links.And, some of them are
>>>>>>>> clearly
>>>>>>>>            about change over time.These are perfect for
>>>>>>>> MapStory.org
>>>>>>>>            <http://mapstory.org/>!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            As for mapping local history, an early leader in the
>>>>>>>>            MapStory community, Nitin Gadia mapped his home
>>>>>>>> town,
>>>>>>>> Ames
>>>>>>>>            Iowa, building by building and parcel by parcel from
>>>>>>>> 1862
>>>>>>>>            until now:http://mapstory.org/maps/475/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            He did this in 80 hours of his own time, getting
>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>            the city, state, and Ames Historical Society and
>>>>>>>> putting it
>>>>>>>>            in to MapStory.In retrospect, he was sure he could
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>            the same in 5 hours.So, he dubbed his effort
>>>>>>>> “MapStory
>>>>>>>>            Local” and put together a cookbook that people could
>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>            in their home towns.
>>>>>>>>            (http://wiki.mapstory.org/wiki/MapStory_Local,
>>>>>>>>            http://www.thenittygritty.org/mapstorylocal).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            And, he is not really a GIS guy.Just a reasonably
>>>>>>>> smart guy
>>>>>>>>            who had a goal.So, I think the same thing could be
>>>>>>>> done by
>>>>>>>>            smart high-school kids around the world.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Of course, there are many other cool spatio-temporal
>>>>>>>>            datasets and stories that students and classes could
>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>            together and share as part of interesting learning
>>>>>>>> experiences.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            We would be happy to talk if you think there is any
>>>>>>>> value in
>>>>>>>>            MapStory to you and your classes!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Let me know if we can be of help.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Chris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>>>>>            Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>>>>>            The MapStory Foundation
>>>>>>>>            @MapStory
>>>>>>>>            tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>>>>>            703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            On Jun 21, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Suchith Anand
>>>>>>>>            <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>            <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Thanks Nikos for sharing this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            I am ccing Chrisas well, as maybe we can think of
>>>>>>>> ideas of
>>>>>>>>            enabling this "The introduction of GIS and GPS
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>>>            history teaching in primary school"using MapStory,
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>            other teachers can start using the idea for thier
>>>>>>>> teaching.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Chris - what do you think?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Suchith
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>            From: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>>>            [labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>]
>>>>>>>>            Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:47 PM
>>>>>>>>            To: 'Suchith Anand'
>>>>>>>>            Cc: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>>>            Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS into
>>>>>>>>            geospatial education
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Dear Suchith,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            This is exactly what the Hellenic digital earth
>>>>>>>> Centre of
>>>>>>>>            Excellence is
>>>>>>>>            doing the last two years. We use ArcGIS Online in
>>>>>>>> primary
>>>>>>>>            schools and the
>>>>>>>>            children have done wonderful job like, tourist maps
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>            village etc.
>>>>>>>>            You can see these maps in
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/index.php/el/newsmodule/2015-05-14-20-50-38/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            schoolrelated which is in Greek but you can have an
>>>>>>>> idea of
>>>>>>>>            what we have
>>>>>>>>            achieved almost with no cost. The students have been
>>>>>>>>            responding responsibly
>>>>>>>>            and this gives us more courage to continue in the
>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>>            Anyone interested in this can download the article
>>>>>>>> "The
>>>>>>>>            introduction of GIS
>>>>>>>>            and GPS through local history teaching in primary
>>>>>>>> school" from
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.eurogeographyjournal.eu/articles/2.THE%20INTRODUCTION%20OF%20GIS%
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.eurogeographyjournal.eu/articles/2.THE%20INTRODUCTION%20OF%20GIS%25>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 20AND%20GPS%20THROUGH%20LOCAL%20HISTORY%20TEACHING%20IN%20PRIMARY%20SCHOOL-2
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            pdf
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Best regards
>>>>>>>>            Nikos
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            -----------
>>>>>>>>            Dr. Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>>>            Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>            Dept. of Primary Education
>>>>>>>>            Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki
>>>>>>>>            Greece, GR-54124
>>>>>>>>            Tel. +30 2310 991201
>>>>>>>>            Email: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>>>            Web pages:
>>>>>>>> http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography/
>>>>>>>>            http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>            From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>>>>>            <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>>>>>            [mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>            Suchith Anand
>>>>>>>>            Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 7:26 PM
>>>>>>>>            To: Mueller, Thomas; Vaclav Petras; ICA OSGeo Labs
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>            Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS into
>>>>>>>>            geospatial education
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Great work Vaclav.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            I understand from Dr. Christopher K Tucker (Chairman
>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>            Board of
>>>>>>>>            Trustees, The MapStory Foundation) cc in that when
>>>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>>>            http://MapStory.org <http://mapstory.org/>
>>>>>>>> relaunched
>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>            in June, it will be an openly licensed
>>>>>>>>            data commons, an Open Educational Resource, that is
>>>>>>>> OGC
>>>>>>>>            compliant, built on
>>>>>>>>            open source geohttp://www.GeoNode.org
>>>>>>>>            <http://www.geonode.org/> .It is intended explicitly
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>            students to be able to organize and share what they
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>            about the world
>>>>>>>>            spatially and temporally.And, in the redesign, they
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> open up
>>>>>>>>            distributed versioned editing of change over time,
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>            students can
>>>>>>>>            collaborate on data collection projects, and then
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>            own stories
>>>>>>>>            with this data. This is exactly the kind of spatial
>>>>>>>> learning
>>>>>>>>            platform we
>>>>>>>>            need for expanding geoeducation for schools.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            I suggest that,GeoForAll should support and make use
>>>>>>>>            ofMapStory.org <http://mapstory.org/>,
>>>>>>>>            as an alternative to proprietary ones like
>>>>>>>> ArcGISOnline, so
>>>>>>>>            that students
>>>>>>>>            and teachers can make use of this for learning
>>>>>>>> purposes
>>>>>>>>            without being
>>>>>>>>            dependent on the mercy of the proprietary vendor.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Please let me know your thoughts/ideas. We will add
>>>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>>>            to our training
>>>>>>>>            resources section and promote this to all educators.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Best wishes,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>            Suchith
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>>>>>>>> 
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