[Gdal-dev] Arc Binary Coverages

Ari Jolma ari.jolma at tkk.fi
Wed Nov 16 07:29:18 EST 2005


Craig Miller kirjoitti:

> I'm not sure about librarian, but image catalog data is stored in the info
>database.  Infolib allows you to work with info databases directly and has
>been around since around 1990.  I'm not sure of the status of it these days
>though.
>  
>

I found this: http://www.epa.gov/Region10/dbf2info.html#contents by 
this: 
http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2001-February/000268.html 
but the links to the actual software are dead. Is the image catalog data 
vital somehow? In some info-dirs of our data I see a lot of *.nit and 
*.dat files but some of those are read by ogr?

Ari

>--Craig
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ari Jolma [mailto:ari.jolma at tkk.fi] 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:43 PM
>To: Craig Miller
>Cc: 'Matthew Perry'; 'Gdal-Dev'
>Subject: Re: [Gdal-dev] Arc Binary Coverages
>
>Seems like the obvious solution is to write a new driver: "Arc/Info Binary
>Coverage B"?
>
>I have very little experience with a/i binary coverages. Is there any way
>(even non-ogr but non a/i) to read librarian and image catalog data now?
>
>Ari
>
>Craig Miller kirjoitti:
>
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>
>>Matt,
>>
>>A coverage contains one data layer, along with different types of topology.
>>These would all continue to be accessible if the Workspace was 
>>considered the datasource.  They would all have the same name, but a 
>>different type attribute.  Perhaps we would have to append something to 
>>the coverage name to make it clear since OGIS (and as a result OGR) 
>>doesn't support as many types as the Arc Coverage model, but rather 
>>maps some of the types to a simple feature.  A name such as <layer> 
>><type> would work.  For example, "Streams (ARC)".  This appears to be 
>>more intuitive, informative, unique, and closer to the true name of the
>>    
>>
>coverage that always using "ARC".
>  
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>>The workspace is also where the attribute database is stored and it 
>>contains information such as Librarian data and Image Catalog data.  
>>Right now, there is no way to add support for Librarian to the driver 
>>(which is actually where I started looking at this).
>>
>>I was thinking that regions will continue to be supported with a name 
>>such as <layername> - <region> <type>.  For example "Streams - 
>>Lake_Wenatchee_Basin (region)"
>>
>>I'm still pretty confident that the two data models map perfectly onto 
>>each other with exception to the fact that OGIS/OGR have smaller set of 
>>supported layer types.  Naming conventions seems like an easy way to 
>>work around this and still preserve the simple features nature of the OGR
>>    
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>library.
>  
>
>>--Craig
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Matthew Perry [mailto:perrygeo at gmail.com]
>>Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:52 PM
>>To: Craig Miller
>>Cc: Gdal-Dev
>>Subject: Re: [Gdal-dev] Arc Binary Coverages
>>
>>Craig,
>>
>> There are good reasons to treat the coverage, rather than the 
>>workspace, as the dataset. The biggest reason is that a coverage 
>>contains multiple data layers (tics,lines, centroids, polygons or 
>>points, etc). In addition ArcInfo's regions data model allows you to 
>>store many spatially-related layers within a single coverage.
>>
>>If the workspace were the dataset and the coverage were the layer, 
>>there would be no way to get at the region layers (or tics, or any of 
>>the other supporting spatial data) within the coverage.
>>
>>I happen to work with regions occasionally so I'm very thankful for the 
>>way OGR handles ArcInfo Coverages! ;-)
>>
>>matt
>>
>>On 11/14/05, Craig Miller <craig.miller at spatialminds.com> wrote:
>> 
>>
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>>>Is there a reason why the Arc Binary Coverage driver uses the Coverage 
>>>directory instead of the Workspace that is traditionally used in Arc/Info?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>E.g. I would have expected to pass a directory to the workspace like 
>>>/data/county and receive back a list of coverages in that workspace 
>>>such
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
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>>as:
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>>>Lakes - Type:Polygon
>>>
>>>Lakes - Type:Point (Polygon Labels)
>>>
>>>Lakes - Type:Linestring (Polygon boundary with line topology built)
>>>
>>>Roads - Type:Linestring
>>>
>>>Etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Instead it asks for a path to the coverage /data/county/lakes and 
>>>returns layers named things such as ARC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>--
>>Matt Perry
>>perrygeo at gmail.com
>>http://www.perrygeo.net
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>Prof. Ari Jolma
>Kartografia ja Geoinformatiikka / Cartography and Geoinformatics Teknillinen
>Korkeakoulu / Helsinki University of Technology POBox 1200, 02015 TKK,
>Finland
>Email: ari.jolma at tkk.fi URL: http://www.tkk.fi/~jolma
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Prof. Ari Jolma
Kartografia ja Geoinformatiikka / Cartography and Geoinformatics
Teknillinen Korkeakoulu / Helsinki University of Technology
POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland
Email: ari.jolma at tkk.fi URL: http://www.tkk.fi/~jolma




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