[gdal-dev] Driver maintenance - long-term solution ?

[Paul Harwood]

Just to be clear IANAL.

That is a good start - but if you want money from Big Tech - then you have
to go through Due Dilligence individually which each one and as you said
with MS - it is painful.

Without that status - it is impossible for any team or manager regardless
of how much they agree with you to pay any money. The only other route is a
PO with a SOW and even then you still need to go through DD for
supplier status.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 11:32, <michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Angelos,
>
> OSGeo is a US non profit 501(c)(4), not (c)(3). We can receive donations
> but they are not tax deductible.
>
> Michael Smith
> OSGeo Treasurer
>
> > On Jan 20, 2021, at 4:27 AM, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > OSGeo is an approved 501(c)(3) organization.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)_organization#501.28c.29.284.29
> > https://www.osgeo.org/about/
> >
> > The only contact for (in kind) sponsorship was with Microsoft, and that
> did not move forward because they needed another status (401).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Angelos
> >
> >> On 1/14/21 11:34 AM, Paul Harwood wrote:
> >> Just a quick question.
> >>
> >> Since the FAANGs were the question, do you know if OSGeo has been vetted
> >> and approved as a Foundation by any of the FAANGs?
> >>
> >> As I say, when I was involved on the other side for one, they had more
> than
> >> a 2 year lead time for that process (I don't know if that was universal
> or
> >> if they solved that problem). If the answer is yes, then that could be a
> >> way forward - and indeed in at least two of FAANGs that I know the
> >> employees have virtual "pots" of both money and time that they can
> donate
> >> to approved organisations to "give back" - so appealing to the grass
> >> roots could be a way forward.
> >>
> >> You might have to spin it as "promoting the value of Geo software to
> solve
> >> world problems" or some such - since as I say paying for free software
> is
> >> questionable legal territory.
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 09:00, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps we could ask some of these organizations to sponsor GDAL
> through
> >>> https://github.com/sponsors/OSGeo which is a recurring sponsorship ?
> >>>
> >>> Angelos
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 1/14/21 12:58 AM, Howard Butler wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com> <
> nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 06:24, David Strip <gdal at stripfamily.net> <
> gdal at stripfamily.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What is the path forward?  One path Howard suggests is establishing a
> foundation similar to that behind Qgis. Another alternative, probably far
> more controversial, is a license change.
> >>>
> >>> I'm pretty clueless regarding licenses -- but this is an interesting
> >>> thought. I wonder if any new drivers added to GDAL could be done with
> >>> a dual-licensing under both GPL + some other license which requires
> >>> ongoing sponsorship of the GDAL project?
> >>>
> >>> License monkey business isn't viable in any way with GDAL. It would
> just create confusion and erode trust, which we can't get back if broken.
> >>>
> >>> The big organizations running 100,000,000s of CPU hours extracting
> information from imagery they're reading in COGs with GDAL need to be
> donating substantial resources into an organization that provides
> coordination. The last time I did a fund raise with gdalbarn.com <
> http://gdalbarn.com/> <http://gdalbarn.com/> I was called out for naming
> some of these organizations and expressing my disappointment they couldn't
> find a way to participate or simply ignored the request.  Maybe they will
> step forward this time around.
> >>>
> >>> Whether it is in a new foundation or an existing one like NumFocus,
> substantial resources need to be dumped in a pot that are earmarked for
> supporting work that generates value for the project. Chasing new feature
> work to subsidize project maintenance activities is not sustainable in two
> directions – burn out for the maintainer and creeping feature-itis for the
> project.
> >>>
> >>> It's clear what's happened in the past is a combination of luck and
> graciousness by both Frank and Even.
> >>>
> >>> Howard
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
> >>> President
> >>> Open Source Geospatial Foundationhttp://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
> >>>
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> >>>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
> > President
> > Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> > http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
> >
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