[gdal-dev] [Question] PROJ4String to WKT2 Transformations

Felipe Matas felipematas at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 27 10:59:46 PST 2022


 Hi, Thx!, now is a lot more clear!, I have a shape with this CRS:
Coordinate Reference System:
  User input: WGS 84 / UTM zone 19S 
  wkt:
PROJCRS["WGS 84 / UTM zone 19S",
    BASEGEOGCRS["WGS 84",
        DATUM["World Geodetic System 1984",
            ELLIPSOID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563,
                LENGTHUNIT["metre",1]]],
        PRIMEM["Greenwich",0,
            ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],
        ID["EPSG",4326]],
    CONVERSION["UTM zone 19S",
        METHOD["Transverse Mercator",
            ID["EPSG",9807]],
        PARAMETER["Latitude of natural origin",0,
            ANGLEUNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433],
            ID["EPSG",8801]],
        PARAMETER["Longitude of natural origin",-69,
            ANGLEUNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433],
            ID["EPSG",8802]],
        PARAMETER["Scale factor at natural origin",0.9996,
            SCALEUNIT["unity",1],
            ID["EPSG",8805]],
        PARAMETER["False easting",500000,
            LENGTHUNIT["metre",1],
            ID["EPSG",8806]],
        PARAMETER["False northing",10000000,
            LENGTHUNIT["metre",1],
            ID["EPSG",8807]]],
    CS[Cartesian,2],
        AXIS["(E)",east,
            ORDER[1],
            LENGTHUNIT["metre",1]],
        AXIS["(N)",north,
            ORDER[2],
            LENGTHUNIT["metre",1]],
    ID["EPSG",32719]]
This CRS is a tranformation from WGS84 to   UTM zone 19S?, If is a transfomation, I don't know, if the data of the file is already transformed, or, the data will be transformed to  UTM zone 19S.
Because, in case it is already transform, to recover the original, I should rollback the transformation and set the WGS84 as the CRS to can use WKT2 in the right way. (skipping the WGS84 pivot)

Thx.
    El martes, 11 de enero de 2022 12:15:14 a. m. GMT-3, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen at maanmittauslaitos.fi> escribió:  
 
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Hi,
 
  
 
The more or less same question seems to be asked some time ago in gis.stackexchange https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/420378/can-we-construct-wkt2-from-proj4string-correctly.
 
  
 
-Jukka Rahkonen-
 
  
 
  
 
Lähettäjä: gdal-dev <gdal-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>Puolesta Felipe Matas via gdal-dev
Lähetetty: maanantai 10. tammikuuta 2022 22.07
Vastaanottaja: gdal-dev at lists.osgeo.org
Aihe: [gdal-dev] [Question] PROJ4String to WKT2 Transformations
 
  
 
Hi hi, I was looking for someplace to ask about this, and I was in doubt is was here or in PROJ, but lets do a try.
 
  
 
Actually, probably I'm not the only one, I have some questions about how WKT2 and PROJ4Strings are transformed.
 
  
 
>From what I read, a PROJ4String don't have enough info to construct a precise WKT2, so, actually how PROJ4String is deprecated my main question is how to construct the right WKT2, there is a lot o data stored in the old format, there is usually no more information, and even the software/hardware that get the data in some way save all of it with all the errors.
 
  
 
Actually, we can transform a old CRS to a WKT2:
 
  
 > st_crs("+type=crs +proj=utm +zone=19 +south +datum=WGS84 +units=m +no_defs +ellps=WGS84 +towgs84=0,0,0" + ) Coordinate Reference System:   User input: +type=crs +proj=utm +zone=19 +south +datum=WGS84 +units=m +no_defs +ellps=WGS84 +towgs84=0,0,0    wkt: BOUNDCRS[     SOURCECRS[         PROJCRS["unknown",             BASEGEOGCRS["unknown",                 DATUM["World Geodetic System 1984",                     ELLIPSOID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563,                         LENGTHUNIT["metre",1]],                     ID["EPSG",6326]],                 PRIMEM["Greenwich",0,                     ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433],                     ID["EPSG",8901]]],             CONVERSION["UTM zone 19S",                 METHOD["Transverse Mercator",                     ID["EPSG",9807]],                 PARAMETER["Latitude of natural origin",0,                     ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433],                     ID["EPSG",8801]],                 PARAMETER["Longitude of natural origin",-69,                     ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433],                     ID["EPSG",8802]],                 PARAMETER["Scale factor at natural origin",0.9996,                     SCALEUNIT["unity",1],                     ID["EPSG",8805]],                 PARAMETER["False easting",500000,                     LENGTHUNIT["metre",1],                     ID["EPSG",8806]],                 PARAMETER["False northing",10000000,                     LENGTHUNIT["metre",1],                     ID["EPSG",8807]],                 ID["EPSG",17019]],             CS[Cartesian,2],                 AXIS["(E)",east,                     ORDER[1],                     LENGTHUNIT["metre",1,                         ID["EPSG",9001]]],                 AXIS["(N)",north,                     ORDER[2],                     LENGTHUNIT["metre",1,                         ID["EPSG",9001]]]]],     TARGETCRS[         GEOGCRS["WGS 84",             DATUM["World Geodetic System 1984",                 ELLIPSOID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563,                     LENGTHUNIT["metre",1]]],             PRIMEM["Greenwich",0,                 ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],             CS[ellipsoidal,2],                 AXIS["latitude",north,                     ORDER[1],                     ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],                 AXIS["longitude",east,                     ORDER[2],                     ANGLEUNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],             ID["EPSG",4326]]],     ABRIDGEDTRANSFORMATION["Transformation from unknown to WGS84",         METHOD["Geocentric translations (geog2D domain)",             ID["EPSG",9603]],         PARAMETER["X-axis translation",0,             ID["EPSG",8605]],         PARAMETER["Y-axis translation",0,             ID["EPSG",8606]],         PARAMETER["Z-axis translation",0,             ID["EPSG",8607]]]] 
  
 
So, in some way, GDAL is able to cover this "breach" of information betwen PROJ4String and WKT2, but is not like the breach does not exist, it was just handled in some way, so, the lack of info, also means, there can be othe aproximations to that CRS.
 
  
 
Maybe I'm just confused, and mixing things the things I read, I'm just trying to figure it out, what and how would be the right transformation from proj4string to wkt2.
 
  
 
Thx.
 
  
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