[gdal-dev] Is the SOSI Norwegian driver still useful?

Even Rouault even.rouault at spatialys.com
Tue Nov 14 12:02:38 PST 2023


Robet,

Can you confirm the information I got that the driver can only be used 
to convert legacy datasets (can they still be downloaded from web 
sites?) and not recent ones ? How much time still do you plan to use it ?

Le 14/11/2023 à 20:53, nagyrobi_r--- via gdal-dev a écrit :
> Hi all!
>
> I use SOSI gdal conversion. So in case you are wondering, there is at 
> least one user.
>
> Kind regards,
> Robet Nagy
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>     On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 8:41 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg via gdal-dev
>     <gdal-dev at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>     On 11/14/23 20:05, Even Rouault via gdal-dev wrote:
>     > Le 14/11/2023 à 19:48, Sebastiaan Couwenberg via gdal-dev a écrit :
>     >> On 11/14/23 19:16, Even Rouault via gdal-dev wrote:
>     >>> ==> Are there users still using the existing OGR SOSI driver ?
>     >>
>     >> We don't have metrics for the OGR driver, but libfyba0 still
>     has 513
>     >> users in popcon.
>     >>
>     >> https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=fyba
>     >
>     > Looking in the same column in
>     > https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=gdal shows that
>     gdal-bin would
>     > have only 520 users...  which seems highly suspiciously low
>     compared to
>     > the super specialized and low level libfyba.  I would bet that >
>     99% of
>     > installations of libfyba0 are because libgdal links to it, which
>     doesn't
>     > mean that it is used for useful stuff (the other reverse
>     dependency of
>     > libfyba in Debian is sosi2osm, which according to
>     > https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=sosi2osm, has only 3 users)
>
>     sosi2osm was removed from Debian during the bookworm development
>     cycle.
>
>     The only rdep of fyba in Debian is gdal now.
>
>     Almost all installations of libfyba are due to it being a
>     dependency of
>     gdal, that's why it has 23911 installations but only 513 votes
>     (regular
>     users).
>
>     > What if people build a Docker image of GDAL from source and
>     install its
>     > dependencies with apt install libfyba-dev: will that trigger a
>     hit in
>     > popcorn?
>
>     popcon is opt-in, there are only ~230000 systems running popcon
>     out of
>     millions of Debian installations. Hence it's mostly usable to provide
>     insight into relative popularity compared to other packages in
>     Debian.
>     Container images are unlikely to enable popcon, the Docker images
>     don't
>     even have it installed.
>
>     > I'm more interested in Norwegian flesh and bones users
>     testifying about
>     > their use or non-use of SOSI.
>
>     Me too, if there are none left we can also remove the fyba package
>     from
>     Debian.
>
>     Kind Regards,
>
>     Bas
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