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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes I have the gdalinfo &#8211; it seems
happy enough with the files I am experimenting with.&nbsp; I&#8217;m not sure
what &#8216;proj&#8217; is supposed to do and can&#8217;t find any info on it
&#8211; but it is in my path and runs?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have attached a small extract from my
ever failing code &#8211; it compiles and runs.&nbsp; Perhaps someone could
tell me what&#8217;s wrong.&nbsp; It seems to fail to set up a coord transform
for any file, even though openev happily deals with them.&nbsp; I can&#8217;t
help feeling that there is something decidedly dodgy about the way I prime the
transform with the &#8216;importFromWkt call.&nbsp; Perhaps the transform is
never getting the transform string at all?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I also noticed that one of the map tif
files from the mapserver tutorial doesn&#8217;t return any projection info fro
mthe getProjectionRef call &#8211; will this cause problems when trying to set up
a transformation in future.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The files I used, and the response they
give, are included in the attachment as comments.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><b><i><font size=2
  color=purple face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:purple;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Gary</span></font></i></b></st1:City></st1:place><b><i><font
size=2 color=purple face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:purple;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Martin Chapman [mailto:chapmanm@pixia.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 20 July 2009 22:46<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Smart, Gary<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [gdal-dev] Converting
raster pixel space to geospace</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
  color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
  font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Gary</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I tried the
projection string in some of my code and it worked fine.&nbsp; I stepped
through the gdal code and proj4 loaded the transform object ok too which means
the projection string is fine and that your environment suffers from one of the
following:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;Proj.dll cannot be found in the path on your machine or is
not in the same directory as gdal.dll and is failing when gdal calls
LoadLibrary() on &#8220;proj.dll&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'>The proj.dll can be found but a dependency like the nad shift
files or gdal data cannot be found.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I would try the
following:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'>Use gdalinfo.exe that should come with fwtools or can be
downloaded from gdal.org and run the command gdalinfo.exe &#8211; formats and
or ogrinfo.exe &#8211;formats.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'>See if the output from that command gives any useful information
on why proj is failing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'>From the command line type in proj.exe and see if the proj util
can be found in your path.&nbsp; If it can be found then maybe it will give
some useful info.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Sorry I am not more
help than that but the projection string is valid.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
gdal-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:gdal-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Smart, Gary<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 20, 2009 8:50
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [gdal-dev] Converting
raster pixel space to geospace<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks Martin, but now to the next
problem&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I downloaded PRROJ.4 which seemed to
configure and compile OK.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Having set the PROJ_LIB as you proposed, I
now get:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ERROR 1: No PROJ.4 translation for source
SRS, coordinate transformation initialization has failed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I guess I am still missing
comething.&nbsp; The failure came from the same geotiff file as below.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I also couldn&#8217;t find a &#8216;data
dir&#8217; in the GDAL source and therefore GDAL_DATA env var remained
unset.&nbsp; We installed everything from the FWTools download for our Linux
SUSE10 system.&nbsp; Should there be a &#8216;data&#8217; directory under the
FWTools directory somewhere?&nbsp; There is no GDAL source in this directory
&#8211; just include files and libraries.&nbsp; I presumed this was all that
was needed to use GDAL?&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Martin Chapman [mailto:chapmanm@pixia.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 20 July 2009 14:49<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Smart, Gary;
gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [gdal-dev] Converting
raster pixel space to geospace</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
  color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
  font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Gary</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Set your paths like
such on startup or as an environment variable:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#a31515" face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#A31515'>GDAL_DATA
points at the data dir that comes with gdal source.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#a31515" face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#A31515'>PROJ_LIB
point to the nad directory that you download from proj4 website.</span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>string env =
string(<font color="#a31515"><span style='color:#A31515'>&quot;GDAL_DATA=&quot;</span></font>)
+ dataPath;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>_putenv(env.c_str());<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>env = string(<font
color="#a31515"><span style='color:#A31515'>&quot;PROJ_LIB=&quot;</span></font>)
+ nadPath;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>_putenv(env.c_str());<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>and / or<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>CPLSetConfigOption(<font
color="#a31515"><span style='color:#A31515'>&quot;GDAL_DATA&quot;</span></font>,
dataPath.c_str());<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>CPLSetConfigOption(<font
color="#a31515"><span style='color:#A31515'>&quot;PROJ_LIB&quot;</span></font>,
nadPath.c_str());<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
gdal-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:gdal-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Smart, Gary<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 20, 2009 7:38
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [gdal-dev] Converting
raster pixel space to geospace<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>OK - I can get it to compile and not crash instantly (bonanza!)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>However, when I try to create the OGR transform using importFromWkt, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I get the following:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>ERROR 6: Unable to load PROJ.4 library (libproj.so), creation of<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>OGRCoordinateTransformation failed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Does anyone know what this means?&nbsp; Is there some part of OGR/GDAL
I have yet to install?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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