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    <p>Moises,</p>
    <p>please fild 2 issues in the github issue tracker:</p>
    <p>- one about /vsistdout/ where .csvt and .prj content shouldn't be
      emitted</p>
    <p>- one about decoupling the layer GEOMETRY_NAME creation option
      with CREATE_CSVT=YES</p>
    <p>Even<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 04/05/2023 à 13:58, Moises Calzado
      via gdal-dev a écrit :<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Robert!
        <div><br>
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        <div>I think that we're losing a bit the main issue that we
          reported, as in fact the problem is related with line breaks
          in the output generated while using /vsistdout and the
          CREATE_CSVT=YES option.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Even pointed out that avoiding that flag it works as
          expected, but when it's used the generated output is not okay
          as the "Fields with embedded line breaks must be quoted" rule
          is not followed.</div>
        <div>IMHO although the generated output is not a CSV itself, we
          should be able to delete the first two lines (projection info
          and types) and deal with the rest of the content as a CSV.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>What we're doing is streaming the output of the /vsistdout
          driver to another process that perform some steps with the
          resultant CSV. In all cases it works correctly, as the output
          of the ogr2ogr execution is a valid CSV when deleting the
          first two lines, but in the case reported in my first email
          it's not.</div>
        <div>The CREATE_CSVT=YES option is mandatory for us as for the
          moment, it's requires to use the GEOMETRY_NAME=<b>geom </b>one,
          so we don't have any workaround.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Just wanted to confirm if that's expected for you
          (generating an output that it's not a valid CSV in the end)!</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mié, 3 may 2023 a las
          21:05, Robert Hewlett (<<a href="mailto:rob.hewy@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob.hewy@gmail.com</a>>)
          escribió:<br>
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            <div>Hi,<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I just tested with : GDAL 3.6.4, released 2023/04/17</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Using the ogr2ogr as follows:</div>
            <div>ogr2ogr -f CSV poi_out.csv poi.shp -lco CREATE_CSVT=YES<br>
            </div>
            <div>I get three files but no geometry<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>ogr2ogr -f CSV poi_out.csv poi.shp -lco CREATE_CSVT=YES
              -lco GEOMETRY=AS_WKT<br>
            </div>
            <div>I get three file with the geometry as WKT with the
              column name WKT</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><b>WKT</b>,id,poi_name,poi_types<br>
            </div>
            <div>"POINT (508878.602179846
              5433913.2763688)","1",crescent,"4"<br>
              "POINT (517836.918121302 5447702.01715829)","2",Tynehead
              Regional Park,"1"<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>ogr2ogr -f CSV poi_out.csv poi.shp -lco CREATE_CSVT=YES
              -lco GEOMETRY=AS_WKT -lco GEOMETRY_NAME=<b>geom</b><br>
            </div>
            <div>I get three file with the geometry as WKT but the
              column called  <b>geom</b><br>
            </div>
            <div><b>geom</b>,id,poi_name,poi_types<br>
              "POINT (508878.602179846
              5433913.2763688)","1",crescent,"4"<br>
              "POINT (517836.918121302 5447702.01715829)","2",Tynehead
              Regional Park,"1"<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>What does</div>
            <div><b>ogr2ogr --version </b></div>
            <div>report back</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 3, 2023 at
              9:38 AM Robert Hewlett <<a
                href="mailto:rob.hewy@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob.hewy@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Hi,
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Not to start a controversy but it feels like the
                  standard hints at three files. Did the standard
                  change?</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>If it is three files which works for me in QGIS and
                  geopandas i.e. data lands where it is suppose to, then
                  more layer creations options are needed to handle the
                  SRID/CRS</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><span
style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Lato,proxima-nova,"Helvetica
Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(252,252,252)">CREATE_PRJ</span><span
style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Lato,proxima-nova,"Helvetica
Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(252,252,252)">=YES/NO</span><br>
                </div>
                <div><span
                    style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Lato,proxima-nova,"Helvetica
Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(252,252,252)">or </span><span
style="background-color:rgb(252,252,252);color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Lato,proxima-nova,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">-t_srs
                    and/or </span><span
style="background-color:rgb(252,252,252);color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Lato,proxima-nova,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">-s_srs
                    triggers the dot-prj file being created.</span></div>
                <div><span
style="background-color:rgb(252,252,252);color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Lato,proxima-nova,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br>
                  </span></div>
                <div><span
style="background-color:rgb(252,252,252);color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Lato,proxima-nova,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">Just
                    saying 😊.</span></div>
                <div><span
style="background-color:rgb(252,252,252);color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Lato,proxima-nova,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br>
                  </span></div>
                <div>In the meantime would a short python script help
                  parse the one file into three?</div>
                <div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 3, 2023 at
                  9:16 AM Moises Calzado via gdal-dev <<a
                    href="mailto:gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Hi Robert,
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Yes, we're getting one with all the info!</div>
                  </div>
                  <br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mié, 3 may 2023
                      a las 18:14, Robert Hewlett (<<a
                        href="mailto:rob.hewy@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob.hewy@gmail.com</a>>)
                      escribió:<br>
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                        <div>Just to clarify, instead of getting three
                          files you are getting one with all the info:
                          types, projection, data?<br>
                          <br>
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                        <a href="https://giswiki.hsr.ch/GeoCSV"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://giswiki.hsr.ch/GeoCSV</a><br>
                      </div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 3,
                          2023 at 8:57 AM Moises Calzado via gdal-dev
                          <<a href="mailto:gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">We're also specifying the
                            GEOM_POSSIBLE_NAMES, so it would be great if
                            with that option we could use the
                            GEOMETRY_NAME without using the
                            CREATE_CSVT=YES option.
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Regarding emitting the .prj and .csvt
                              in /vsistdout mode, that's why I'm saying
                              that there is an issue while generating
                              the resultant CSV.</div>
                            <div>The way we see it is that when using
                              the /vsistdout mode, the result is a CSV
                              file with the .prj information in the
                              first line, and the .csvt in the second
                              line. We're dealing with the result
                              deleting the first two lines and using the
                              rest of the content as a CSV, which should
                              be equal to the result obtained when using
                              ogr2ogr without the CREATE_CSVT=YES
                              option.</div>
                            <div>Probably we're losing something, but as
                              we see it, the generated CSV should be a
                              valid one. Does that make sense?</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Thanks so much for your help!</div>
                          </div>
                          <br>
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mié, 3
                              may 2023 a las 15:10, Robert Hewlett (<<a
                                href="mailto:rob.hewy@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob.hewy@gmail.com</a>>)
                              escribió:<br>
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                              <div dir="auto">The .CSVT and .PRJ help to
                                make a proper geocsv dataset. Helps with
                                QGIS And geopandas. The column name that
                                I use in the CSV is usually geom and WKT
                                shows up in the CSVT file which seems to
                                be a one line file that hints at the
                                data types in the CSV file.
                                <div dir="auto">
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="auto">I hope that
                                    makes sense.</div>
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="auto">CSVT</div>
                                  <div dir="auto">Integer, Integer,WKT</div>
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="auto">CSV</div>
                                  <div dir="auto">line_id,point_id,geom</div>
                                  <div dir="auto">1,1,"POINT(1000 1000)"</div>
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="auto">PRJ</div>
                                  <div dir="auto">EPSG:26910</div>
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                  Wed, May 3, 2023, 05:23 Moises Calzado
                                  via gdal-dev <<a
                                    href="mailto:gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Hi Even,
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Thanks so much for taking a
                                      look into that one!</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I have one doubt regarding the
                                      CSVT content, as we're not really
                                      using it, but it's required when
                                      using the GEOMETRY_NAME layer
                                      creation option, as can be checked
                                      in the CSV driver documentation:</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
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24px;padding:0px;list-style-position:initial;line-height:24px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Lato,proxima-nova,"Helvetica
Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(252,252,252)">
                                        <li
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                                          <p
                                            style="box-sizing:border-box;line-height:24px;margin:0px"><span
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">GEOMETRY_NAME</span>=name
                                            (Starting with GDAL 2.1):
                                            Name of geometry column.
                                            Only used if GEOMETRY=AS_WKT
                                            and CREATE_CSVT=YES.
                                            Defaults to WKT</p>
                                        </li>
                                      </ul>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div>We really need this flag as we
                                      are processing files that contain
                                      geometries with different column
                                      names, and we always want the same
                                      geometry name in the generated
                                      output. Are we losing something
                                      when using that flag to avoid this
                                      problem?</div>
                                    <div>In my humble opinion,
                                      generating an invalid CSV when
                                      using the -lco CREATE_CSVT=YES
                                      looks like a bug for me, as I
                                      can't see the reason why strings
                                      containing line breaks can't be
                                      quoted.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Could you please shed some
                                      light on this?</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Looking forward to your reply,</div>
                                    <div>Regards.</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El
                                      mié, 3 may 2023 a las 14:00, Even
                                      Rouault (<<a
                                        href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>>)
                                      escribió:<br>
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                                        <p>you didn't post to the list<br>
                                        </p>
                                        <div>Le 03/05/2023 à 13:49,
                                          Moises Calzado a écrit :<br>
                                        </div>
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi Even,
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Thanks so much for
                                              taking a look into that
                                              one!</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>I have one doubt
                                              regarding the CSVT
                                              content, as we're not
                                              really using it, but it's
                                              required when using the
                                              GEOMETRY_NAME layer
                                              creation option, as can be
                                              checked in the CSV driver
                                              documentation:</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
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                                                  <p
                                                    style="box-sizing:border-box;line-height:24px;margin:0px"><span
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">GEOMETRY_NAME</span>=name
                                                    (Starting with GDAL
                                                    2.1): Name of
                                                    geometry column.
                                                    Only used if
                                                    GEOMETRY=AS_WKT and
                                                    CREATE_CSVT=YES.
                                                    Defaults to WKT</p>
                                                </li>
                                              </ul>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <div>We really need this
                                              flag as we are processing
                                              files that contain
                                              geometries with different
                                              column names, and we
                                              always want the same
                                              geometry name in the
                                              generated output. Are we
                                              losing something when
                                              using that flag to avoid
                                              this problem?</div>
                                            <div>In my humble opinion,
                                              generating an invalid CSV
                                              when using the -lco
                                              CREATE_CSVT=YES looks like
                                              a bug for me, as I can't
                                              see the reason why strings
                                              containing line breaks
                                              can't be quoted.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Could you please shed
                                              some light on this?</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Looking forward to your
                                              reply,</div>
                                            <div>Regards.</div>
                                          </div>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                            <div dir="ltr"
                                              class="gmail_attr">El sáb,
                                              29 abr 2023 a las 15:44,
                                              Even Rouault (<<a
                                                href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com"
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                                              escribió:<br>
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                                                <p>Moises,</p>
                                                <p>as far as I can see
                                                  with your example, the
                                                  CSV driver behaves
                                                  "properly" in reading
                                                  and writing of field
                                                  values with line
                                                  breaks.</p>
                                                <p>It follows the
                                                  "Fields with embedded
                                                  line breaks must be
                                                  quoted" rule of <a
                                                    href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values"
                                                    rel="noreferrer"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values</a><br>
                                                </p>
                                                <p>$ ogr2ogr out.csv
                                                  /vsizip/dataframe.zip<br>
                                                </p>
                                                <p>$ cat out.csv<br>
                                                  id,descriptio<br>
                                                  "1",This is my third
                                                  row<br>
                                                  "2","this is<br>
                                                  my string<br>
                                                  "<br>
                                                  "3",This is my third
                                                  row<br>
                                                </p>
                                                <p>$ ogrinfo out.csv -al<br>
                                                  INFO: Open of
                                                  `out.csv'<br>
                                                        using driver
                                                  `CSV' successful.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Layer name: out<br>
                                                  Geometry: None<br>
                                                  Feature Count: 3<br>
                                                  Layer SRS WKT:<br>
                                                  (unknown)<br>
                                                  id: String (0.0)<br>
                                                  descriptio: String
                                                  (0.0)<br>
                                                  OGRFeature(out):1<br>
                                                    id (String) = 1<br>
                                                    descriptio (String)
                                                  = This is my third row<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  OGRFeature(out):2<br>
                                                    id (String) = 2<br>
                                                    descriptio (String)
                                                  = this is<br>
                                                  my string<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  OGRFeature(out):3<br>
                                                    id (String) = 3<br>
                                                    descriptio (String)
                                                  = This is my third row<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                </p>
                                                <p>But in your example
                                                  using /vsistdout/ and
                                                  -lco CREATE_CSVT=YES
                                                  is going to result in
                                                  an invalid CSV file
                                                  which will mix both
                                                  the .csvt and .csv
                                                  content<br>
                                                </p>
                                                <p>Even<br>
                                                </p>
                                                <div>Le 24/04/2023 à
                                                  13:34, Moises Calzado
                                                  via gdal-dev a écrit :<br>
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                                  <div dir="ltr">Hello!
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>We're trying to
                                                      convert a
                                                      Shapefile into a
                                                      CSV using ogr2ogr
                                                      and we're having
                                                      some issues while
                                                      dealing with some
                                                      columns that
                                                      contain line
                                                      breaks inside
                                                      their values. If
                                                      we have a line
                                                      with the following
                                                      string, ogr2ogr
                                                      detects that the
                                                      line break is a
                                                      new line and it
                                                      returns two lines.</div>
                                                    <div><br>
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                                                    <blockquote
                                                      class="gmail_quote"
                                                      style="margin:0px
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                                                      solid
                                                      rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">"this
                                                      is my \n value"</blockquote>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>That's the
                                                      command that we're
                                                      executing:</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      class="gmail_quote"
                                                      style="margin:0px
                                                      0px 0px
                                                      0.8ex;border-left:1px
                                                      solid
                                                      rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">ogr2ogr
                                                      -f CSV
                                                      -skipfailures
                                                      -makevalid
                                                      /vsistdout/
                                                      /vsizip/shapefile.zip
                                                      -simplify 0.00001
                                                      -dim XY -t_srs
                                                      EPSG:4326 -lco
                                                      GEOMETRY=AS_WKT
                                                      -lco
                                                      GEOMETRY_NAME=geom
                                                      -lco
                                                      CREATE_CSVT=YES
                                                      > result.csv<br>
                                                    </blockquote>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Is this an
                                                      expected
                                                      behaviour, or is
                                                      there any way to
                                                      avoid this?</div>
                                                    <div>Sharing an
                                                      example Shapefile
                                                      so that you can
                                                      try to reproduce
                                                      that behaviour: <a
href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gFqfTP02KTFoavJyyO-Ix05YwZB2tS24/view?usp=sharing"
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                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Thanks so much
                                                      in advance,</div>
                                                    <div>Regards.<br
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