[Geodata] Re: [dclite4g] [GeoNetwork-devel] CSW 19139-19119 schemas [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Mon Feb 18 05:11:58 EST 2008

Stefan Keller ha scritto:
> I read too about your investigations to map ISO 19115/19139 to Dublin Core

Hi lists,
I just had a look again at this thread. At:
ftp://ftp.cenorm.be/PUBLIC/CWAs/e-Europe/MMI-DC/cwa14857-00-2003-Nov.pdf

you may find the CEN Workshop Agreement (2003) "Mapping between Dublin
Core and ISO 19115".

Hope it can be useful.

pg

2008/1/8, Stefan Keller <sfkeller at gmail.com>:
> Hi John,
>
> I'm sorry to confirm your observation that there are more different
> implementations of ISO19115 Metadata Schema than you probably expected - and
> it's even worse: ISO19139 Metadata XML Implementation already is *not*
> compatible with the initially "higher level" ISO19118 Encoding and CSW 2.0.2
> is about 127 pages (plus references to many mandatory ISO documents)!
>
> I read too about your investigations to map ISO 19115/19139 to Dublin Core,
> since Dublin Core is part of a community (i.e. librarians, scientists) which
> is larger than GIS. Even here, my "acoustic sensors" tell me that there
> exists currently neither a usable XML encoding nor a commonly accepted
> minimal geospatial metadata schema which includes data and services!
>
>
> Let me add that my goals are about metadata exchange between metadata
> catalogues (repositories) at different levels as well as between catalogues
> and between desktop or web-based applications - and which are implementable:
> i.e. simple, parsimounious, RESTful, mass-IT-adopted, etc.. I'm aware of the
> fact that the requirements to a metadata schema and encoding seem to be
> higher than even for geodata itself.
>
> Perhaps my expectations are too high. Still, currently I'm agonized
> regarding geo-metadata exchange... Please prove me wrong!
>
> Stefan
>
> 2008/1/8, John.Hockaday at ga.gov.au < John.Hockaday at ga.gov.au>:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > ALARM BELLS are ringing in my head regarding this email thread.  I believe
> > that the ISO 19139 XML implementation was created because there were so
> many
> > different implementations of ISO 19115 that none of them were the same and
> it
> > wasn't interoperable.  With ISO 19139 there is now an official TC 211 XML
> > implementation that can be used to prove compliance (mostly and with some
> > added Schematron) to ISO 19115.
> >
> > Are we getting into the same situation of multiple implementations of ISO
> > 19119 without an official TC 211 XML implementation?  This can't be
> > supported.  We *must* have one ISO 19119 XML implementation that is
> approved
> > by the ISO TC 211 and this must be the only one used to prove compliance
> to
> > ISO 19119.  Otherwise we will be in the same situation as the
> implementations
> > for ISO 19115 before ISO 19139 was approved.
> >
> > We in Australia (mostly Nick Ardlie working for Geoscience Australia) put
> a
> > lot of effort into making sure that the eden web site XSDs were properly
> > implementing ISO 19119.  It seemed to be accepted by those experts who
> were
> > contributing to the development of this XML.  I would be very worried if
> > something else was adopted for proof of compliance to ISO 19119 of XML
> > document instances because it may be going against what these experts
> > approved.
> >
> > Having said that, I don't see a problem in using any other way of
> > implementing a CSW that serves this XML as long as it is compliant to the
> CSW
> > specification.
> >
> > If I have misinterpreted this thread and "jumped the gun" in assuming that
> > there may be multiple XML implementations of ISO 19119 then please flame
> me.
> > (It may be more efficient if there is only one email that does the
> flaming.)
> > ;--)
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: geonetwork-devel-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net
> > > [mailto:geonetwork-devel-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net
> ] On
> > > Behalf Of Lagarde Pierre
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2008 1:51 AM
> > > To: Jeroen Ticheler;
> geonetwork-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [GeoNetwork-devel] CSW 19139-19119 schemas
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi jeroen,
> > >
> > > A happy new year and a long life of GN...
> > >
> > > For 19119, we prefer to use the profile ISO 1.0.0 CSW 2.0.2 -
> > > http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/cat
> > >
> > > And you could find the official schema on OGC repository :
> > > http://schemas.opengis.net/csw/2.0.2/ - only
> supplemental
> > > information in regard of the 19119 standards and linked with
> > > http://schemas.opengis.net/iso/19139/20060504/ (where
> the srv
> > > directory includes 19119 schema).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : geonetwork-devel-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net
> > > [mailto:geonetwork-devel-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net
> ] De la
> > > part de Jeroen Ticheler
> > > Envoyé : lundi 7 janvier 2008 15:21
> > > À : geonetwork-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Objet : [GeoNetwork-devel] CSW 19139-19119 schemas
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I searched and found this page and downloadable schemas that
> > > are a draft of how to encode 19119 service metadata:
> > >
> > > http://eden.ign.fr/xsd/csw_profile
> > >
> > > The release is dated 15 November 2006 (!).
> > >
> > > I would be keen to hear from people if this is the latest
> > > that was done on this issue and if more can be expected?
> > >
> > > We should discuss what schemas we use when adding 19119
> > > service metadata support.  :-) François, did you already have
> > > this/a schema for 19119 encoding?
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Jeroen
> > >
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