[Geodata] Fwd: The once and future OpenAerialMap
Milo van der Linden
milovanderlinden at gmail.com
Mon Nov 2 14:54:29 EST 2009
Hello Schuyler,
I forwarded your mail to the people of our foundation (Stichting
OpenGeo) http://blog.opengeo.nl involved with aerial photography with
QuadCopters and remote controlled model-planes.
I hope they will be able to contribute as I am certain they are looking
for a way to get their photo's into a irregular mosaic WMS image server.
Perhaps both projects can benefit from each other!
Kind regards,
Milo van der Linden
Secretary -- Stichting OpenGeo
Schuyler Erle schreef:
> My take on latest attempt at jumpstarting the OpenAerialMap effort.
> Please reply to the talk at openaerialmap.org list if interested!
>
> SDE
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Schuyler Erle <schuyler at nocat.net>
> To: talk at openaerialmap.org
> Subject: [OAM-talk] The once and future OpenAerialMap
> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:08:45 -0500
>
> Recently there's been a surge of interest in OpenAerialMap in the
> context of humanitarian crisis response, but most of the discussion in
> the last couple months has been over private emails and conversations.
> I'd like to take the opportunity to try to restart the public discussion
> in the hopes of moving forward.
>
> This will be a long email, but I have a lot of thoughts I want to get
> out. Please forgive the extent to which this missive covers ground that
> has already been trod upon on this list.
>
> ----
>
> OpenAerialMap is meant, to my understanding, to provide a Free and Open
> archive of aerial and satellite imagery for general use.
>
> The four main challenges behind OAM, as I see them, are as follows:
>
> 1. Community interest
> 2. Imagery cataloging
> 3. Reliable storage
> 4. Low-latency delivery
>
> Community interest
> ------------------
> Bona-fide community interest has been the main sticking point to date.
> I've been agitating for an OAM-like service for nearly five years, but
> OAM is going to continue to be merely an unfinished prototype and a nice
> idea until we have a critical mass of interested parties to keep the
> project going. Based on the private discussions around its utility for
> crisis response, I think we now have a real use case that the community
> can develop around.
>
> The next question is one of organizing. If/when we have a sufficient
> critical mass, perhaps we should constitute a project organizing
> committee under a community governance model akin to Apache, OpenLayers,
> etc., so that someone is empowered to make executive decisions on behalf
> of the community. This would mean that, once this list begins to reach
> consensus, we have someone to take responsibility for moving the ball
> forward, rather than us all staring at each other and wondering what
> happens next.
>
> Cataloging
> ----------
> After talking with Christopher Schmidt last week, I'm convinced that the
> imagery catalog is the key point on the critical path to a working
> OpenAerialMap. Basically, ground imagery can be delivered *to* OAM in
> two forms:
>
> (1) hosted elsewhere and exposed via WMS, etc. MassGIS and Landsat-7 are
> good examples.
>
> (2) delivered in bulk (on DVD, hard drive, via upload) from a third
> party, whether it's from a government or NGO mapping bureau, or a
> homebrew UAV enthusiast.
>
> Both of these data sources need to be cataloged appropriately in OAM, so
> that they can be mosaicked into a single ground imagery layer at each
> zoom level. The WMS-delivered datasets are easier to deal with in the
> sense that they're already online and OAM can simply reproject, proxy,
> and cache requests. The bulk-delivered datasets are a little more
> complex because they require hosting somewhere, but once they're online,
> they too can be exposed via WMS and cached in OAM by the same means.
>
> Christopher has already written a very basic imagery catalog for OAM
> using Django. IIRC, this catalog app generates a MapServer configuration
> that performs the reprojection and mosaic. I would submit that we should
> start with the existing OAM catalog code and look critically at how we
> can extend it to be more comprehensive and robust, versus adopting
> something else (GeoNetwork?) or starting from scratch.
>
> There are questions of crowdsourcing versus curating the effort of
> building the catalog that are out of scope at the moment, but we should
> think about some model of allowing anyone to submit WMS URLs or offer to
> upload imagery, with some data curators empowered by the PSC to vet and
> manage the "official" catalog itself.
>
> The nice thing about starting by focusing on the catalog is that it
> allows us to build a usable prototype by simply caching the mosaic in
> RAM on some single machine for now, without having to commit to a
> long-term storage plan first.
>
> Reliable storage
> ----------------
> OAM in its most recent conception didn't really get far enough to look
> at solving this problem. One issue is that we're looking at scaling up
> to dozens or 100s of TB of imagery, but let's assume that at least one
> organization has a sufficient need and sufficient goodwill to step up
> and offer to provide this to the community for free.
>
> Such an offer will beg the other issue, which is that no one will want
> to invest the effort in (re)building OAM on a single hosting provider,
> if there's any risk that that host might lose interest (perhaps because
> the project's liason gets a new job elsewhere), drop the project, go
> offline without warning, or experience significant downtime. I think we
> have seen this with well-intentioned efforts in the past to offer our
> community hosting for free but with no SLA. We need to avoid this
> situation moving forward. An OAM that doesn't stay online is worse than
> none at all.
>
> I see a range of options between fully centralized and fully distributed
> hosting:
>
> (1) A single hosting provider offers hosting to "the community" under
> some kind of binding commitment with a lengthy term and a definite SLA.
> Since no money will be changing hands, it's hard to see how we ("the
> community") could enforce such an agreement (or indeed who exactly the
> hosting institution would be making the agreement with).
>
> (2) Multiple hosting providers mirroring each other in some arrangement,
> with round-robin DNS and the project steering committee empowered to
> change the DNS records as necessary. The downside of this is that it
> will take up a lot of bandwidth, and still puts the eggs into relatively
> few baskets, but at least there's some redundancy.
>
> (3) A quasi-peer-to-peer solution with a limited number of trusted,
> high-capacity seed nodes that obtain, cryptographically sign, and cache
> tiles derived from the imagery sources in the catalog. A larger number
> of leaf nodes could serve actual client requests and maintain
> distributed local caches. We could design a fixed level of redundancy
> into this topology, provided there's enough space available. Naturally
> this is the technical solution that I recommend considering.
>
> Pure P2P solutions are great for exchanging large files, but typically
> have too much latency to be practical for these purposes (see below).
>
> Low-latency delivery
> --------------------
> The key consideration for consumption of OAM tiles is that Internet map
> users expect imagery to load on the client side within milliseconds,
> which is partly why OAM will need to cache tiles delivered from 3rd
> party sources. Any kind of cache storage that depends on delivering
> tiles from pure P2P networks or higher-latency institutional SANs is not
> going to work for our purposes.
>
> ----
>
> I think that's it. I hope, if you've gotten this far, that you'll treat
> this email as a call to action. I look forward to hearing discussion of
> the technical and community organizing details, and I hope to see more
> participants commit to making this concept a reality. Thanks!
>
> SDE
>
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