[Geodata] Fwd: Re: inventory of public address data for geocoding in Europe

[Arnulf Christl]

Hi,
interesting thread, please keep it coming.

Wrt dumping the data into OSM, this is good - but also raises quite a
few interesting questions about how to maintain the data in the long
run. Bulk uploads are great but so far we have not really developed any
strategies going beyond hunting-gathering. This is why for now I am
still more of a proponent of federated access. Leave the data where it
is and make it directly accessible. At least until we have a viable and
automized way of updating this kind of data. Getting there will need a
lot of thinking and also organizational changes. Honestly, most Open
Data still looks and feels like it fell off the back of a truck and next
time you look there it's gone. Not a good basis for coherent maintenance
- and lots of work for the likes of us.

Cheers,
Arnulf

On 14.03.2013 11:25, Moritz Lennert wrote:
> [this was supposed to go to the list as well]
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Geodata] inventory of public address data for geocoding in
> Europe
> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:25:29 +0100
> From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert at club.worldonline.be>
> To: Milo van der Linden <milo at dogodigi.net>
> 
> Hello Milo,
> 
> On 13/03/13 11:39, Milo van der Linden wrote:
>> Hello Moritz,
>>
>> Geodata Discovery and geocoding are two different things.On the OSGeo
>> wiki there is an (outdated) page on opengeocoder.
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenGeocoder maybe that can be a starting
>> point for you?
> 
> I am aware of the difference. However, geocoding might just be one use
> of address data, so I thought that an inventory of such data might be
> more for the geodata group. But if you tell me that this is not the
> case, then I'll go look elsewhere.
> 
>> About the services you mention: I am currently in the process of
>> importing BAG address data into OpenStreetMap, particulary for the
>> nominatim geocoding service
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim
> 
> Great !
> 
> I was wondering about the licence of the BAG address data. I haven't
> been able to find the info. Via your site (http://www.nlextract.nl/), I
> found the INSPIRE download service:
> http://geodata.nationaalgeoregister.nl/inspireadressen/atom/inspireadressen.xml,
> 
> but again, I haven't been able to find license info in the data set either.
> 
> 
>> Perhaps OpenStreetMap might be a good place to hold global address
>> data? I think it might. But of course other ideas are most welcome!
> 
> At this stage, I'm not looking for a place to put the actual data. I
> just want to make an inventory of where in Europe such data is available
> and under which conditions...
> 
> But I agree that OSM would be the perfect place to make the data available.
> 
>>
>> Good luck on your project and good to see you are addressing the
>> addressing issue ;-)
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> Moritz
> 
>>
>> 2013/3/13 Moritz Lennert<mlennert at club.worldonline.be>:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm hoping to be able to revive this list a bit with a specific
>>> project: In
>>> the context of my research, I'm currently trying to compile an
>>> inventory of
>>> public open address data usable for geocoding (or possibly publicly
>>> accessible geocoding services). At this stage I have already come
>>> upon the
>>> following data sources:
>>>
>>> Spain: CartoCiudad
>>> France: BD Adresses and the PointsAdresses from IGN France
>>> Netherlands: BAG Compact from the Dutch Cadaster
>>> Belgium: The Geodatabases from the three Belgian regions (UrBIS, PLI and
>>> AGIV)
>>> - Great Britain: Code-Point from the Ordnance Survey (not address, but
>>> postcodes which are very dense in GB)
>>>
>>> The output could be a list of such data on [1], but should also lead
>>> to a
>>> publication providing other research teams with the information and an
>>> evaluation of the possibilities of geocoding based on public, open
>>> data in
>>> Europe today.
>>>
>>> Several questions:
>>>
>>> - Should/can I start a table on [1] ? Is there a better place ?
>>> - Does anyone have knowledge of similar data sets in other European
>>> countries ?
>>> - Does anyone have knowledge of already existing inventories on such
>>> data ?
>>>
>>> Any feedback is more than welcome !
>>>
>>> Moritz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geodata_Discovery_Working_Group
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