[Ica-osgeo-labs] [Board] Mailing list anyone?

Wed May 29 19:00:27 PDT 2013

Hello everybody

We want to share with you the Osgeo Labs Network twitter account:  @osgeolabs is ready and we can starts to follow, I am administration of this account, and the website will have a space at main page of this account to share the last news.

Today we was make some changes about design and some contents, may be tomorrow we will do the validation of the users at website and all of you can add new contents.

Please let me knows about your comments, thanks in advanced... regards

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Ing. Manuel Haro Marquez - Laboratorio de Software Libre COZCyT
Proyectos de Software Libre y Abierto de la Agenda Digital
manuel.haro at zacatecas.gob.mx   Tel: 9212816 Ext: 117
"El conocimiento crece cuando se comparte*******************************

----- Original Message -----
From: Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
To: Seven (aka Arnulf) <seven at arnulf.us>, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
Cc: board at lists.osgeo.org, ICA OSGeo Labs <ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 06:42:10 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] [Board] Mailing list anyone?

Hi Arnulf,

I think it was because everyone was replying to the first mail from Manuel on the draft website where he cced many people instead of  using ICA-OSGeo Labs maillist !

This is Education Initiative and it fully inclusive to anyone interested to join and expand our education efforts. Just subscribe to our maillist at
http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ica-osgeo-labs

Suchith

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From: board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Seven (aka Arnulf)
Sent: 29 May 2013 12:25
To: Jeff McKenna
Cc: board at lists.osgeo.org; ICA OSGeo Labs
Subject: Re: [Board] Mailing list anyone?

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Hey Jeff,
thanks for your update. I wasn't really away but wondered why there was a party of 50+ people in a CC "mailing list" discussing about something that should happen on the proper mailing list you point at below (and CC'ed here)? Can you answer this? Then, what kind of secrecy is required that you add an *erased url*?

My other question was geared towards the mission of this group of 50+ and whether this is an Edu Labs initiative or the Incubator Labs?
Currently it seems to be aiming somewhere in the middle. If so then there is even more reason to be inclusive and have everybody interested participate.

Cheers,
Arnulf

On 28.05.2013 19:31, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> Hi Arnulf, welcome back.  The discussions for the OSGeo-ICA Lab
> Network occur on its mailing list:
> http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ica-osgeo-labs  (or
> see the threads at
> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/ICA-OSGeo-Lab-Network-f5046485.htm
> l)
>
>  We've already dealt with the issues you mentioned.
>
> So I encourage all board members to join this list, it's an amazing
> movement, that is happening.
>
> We're all working on a new portal (*erased url* not ready to
> publish) If you have feedback, ideas, please do introduce yourself on
> the mailing list and offer your help to Suchith and the network.
>
> (tomorrow I will again present this amazing growing OSGeo-ICA network,
> at a local event)
>
> And thanks Arnulf for kick-starting this through the ICA MoU !!!!
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
> On 2013-05-28 2:04 PM, Arnulf Christl wrote:
>> Folks, are we really still mailing to 50+ people in the CC? Maybe it
>> is time for a mailing list? If yes please let me know, OSGeo will be
>> happy to provide one. Name anyone? (OMG, did I just ask this?).
>>
>> Plus I still think that due to the "labs" word there is some overlap
>> in what we are doing with Education (labs in
>> universities) and pre-Incubating software projects in OSGeo. So I was
>> a bit confused reading the new website at which seems to focus on
>> supporting early stage software projects:
>> http://conlibre.org/osgeolabs/
>>
>> So are we talking here about a mix of OSGeo Labs[0], ELOGeo[1],
>> OSGeo's Edu Committee [2]?
>>
>> This Wiki page has not seen much love either:
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/ICA-OSGeo_Lab_Network
>>
>> It seems to duplicate the effort of page [2]. Would redirecting the
>> former to this one make sense?
>>
>> But maybe I have simply missed part of the communication?! In this
>> case I am looking forward to better understanding what this network
>> is aiming to become.
>>
>> Cheers, Arnulf
>>
>> [0] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs [1]
>> http://elogeo.nottingham.ac.uk/ [2]
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Edu_current_initiatives
>>
>> On 28.05.2013 15:49, Phillip Davis wrote:
>>> At FOSS4GNA last week in Minneapolis, I'd say Leaflet was the number
>>> one most referenced software hands down
>>>
>>> There are 10 types of people in this world.  Those who understand
>>> binary and those who don't.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 28, 2013, at 3:08 AM, "Suchith Anand"
>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> As we are Open GIS Lab network , i think our website should also
>>>> reflect this spirit. So i fully agree with using only Open Web
>>>> technologies for our website.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Manuel and colleagues for their efforts and
>>>> understanding.
>>>>
>>>> Suchith
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________ From:
>>>> b.j.kobben at utwente.nl [b.j.kobben at utwente.nl] Sent: Tuesday, May
>>>> 28, 2013 8:58 AM To: aimandel at ucdavis.edu;
>>>> franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de Cc:
>>>> manuel.haro at zacatecas.gob.mx; Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk;
>>>> a.ghisla at gmail.com; jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com;
>>>> sacosta at dntopografia.gub.uy; dave.fairbairn at newcastle.ac.uk;
>>>> cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu; Rafael.Moreno at ucdenver.edu;
>>>> Tuongthuy.Vu at nottingham.edu.my; rachel.gaulton at newcastle.ac.uk;
>>>> hmitaso at ncsu.edu; warmerdam at pobox.com; rajan at iiit.ac.in;
>>>> stuart.barr at newcastle.ac.uk; farah at rcmrd.org;
>>>> Mike.Jackson at nottingham.ac.uk; georg.gartner at tuwien.ac.at;
>>>> raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp; emmanuelsambale at essc.org.ph;
>>>> silvanacamboim at gmail.com; philip.james at newcastle.ac.uk;
>>>> mfinn at usgs.gov; cameron.shorter at gmail.com; luciene at ufpr.br;
>>>> korme at rcmrd.org; D.J.Martin at soton.ac.uk; nctiglao at up.edu.ph;
>>>> cpettit at unimelb.edu.au; arletemeneguette at fct.unesp.br;
>>>> jds at geodata.soton.ac.uk; aanguix at gvsig.com; alias at utm.my;
>>>> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com; yuri.resnichenko at agesic.gub.uy;
>>>> arnulf at osgeo.org; N.Tkachenko at warwick.ac.uk;
>>>> landa.martin at gmail.com; vfernandez at presidencia.gub.uy;
>>>> venka.osgeo at gmail.com; pdavis at delmar.edu; nctiglao at gmail.com;
>>>> gemma at sigte.udg.edu; elzbieta.woloszynska at gridw.pl;
>>>> andreabirgitchavez at gmail.com; jfquinn at ucdavis.edu; monika at gridw.pl;
>>>> maria at gridw.pl; maria.brovelli at diiar-topo.polimi.it;
>>>> lluis at sigte.udg.es; serenacoetzee at gmail.com;
>>>> Jeremy.Morley at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> Subject: Re: ICA-OSGeo Lab Network website
>>>>
>>>> OpenLayers and Leaflet are Javascript APIs, not plugins.
>>>> Plugins are separate softwares you have to install locally in your
>>>> computer, with all inherent problems of compatibility and
>>>> security...
>>>>
>>>> My stand would be: no plugins, only OpenWeb technology
>>>> (http://www.w3.org/wiki/Open_Web_Platform, and that does include JS
>>>> APIs)...
>>>>
>>>> BArend
>>>>
>>>> On 28-05-13 09:43, "Alex Mandel" <aimandel at ucdavis.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What about OpenLayers (An OSGeo Project) or Leaflet?
>>>>>
>>>>> The site is Drupal, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest
>>>>> plugins for use, but warn against straying too far from mainstream
>>>>> Drupal. Custom plugins is actually the problem with upgrading the
>>>>> main OSGeo site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/28/2013 12:30 AM, Dr. Franz-Josef Behr wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Manuel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you and your colleagues for the compilation of the website!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the dissemination and worldwide usage, I wonder if it is
>>>>>> useful to demand additional plugins
>>>>>> (http://www.conlibre.org/webmap/index.html):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use Firefox v21, SVG should be supported there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition I wonder which version of MapViewSVG is used.
>>>>>> I would avoid to use the ArcGIS version int this context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Franz-Josef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 27.05.2013 22:35, schrieb Suchith Anand:
>>>>>>> Thanks Anne for opening the ticket for OSGeo subdomain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manuel, we are looking forward to your updated version of the
>>>>>>> website. Many thanks for you and your team's efforts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________________ From: Manuel Haro
>>>>>>> [manuel.haro at zacatecas.gob.mx] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:50
>>>>>>> PM To: Anne Ghisla Cc: Suchith Anand; Jeff McKenna; Sergio
>>>>>>> Acosta y Lara; Dave Fairbairn; Alex Mandel; Charles Schweik; b j
>>>>>>> kobben; Rafael Moreno; TUONG VU THUY; Rachel Gaulton; Helena
>>>>>>> (hmitaso at ncsu.edu) Mitasova; Frank Warmerdam;rajan at iiit.ac.in;
>>>>>>> Stuart Barr; Hussein Farah; Mike Jackson; Georg Gartner; Dr.
>>>>>>> Franz-Josef Behr; Venkatesh
>>>>>>> Raghavan;emmanuelsambale at essc.org.ph;silvanacamboim at gmail.com;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
philip james;mfinn at usgs.gov; CameronShorter;luciene at ufpr.br;
>>>>>>> Tesfaye Korme; Martin D.J.;nct! iglao at up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .edu.ph;cpettit at unimelb.edu.au;arletemeneguette at fct.unesp.br;jds
>>>>>>> @geodata
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
.soton.ac.uk; Alvaro Anguix;alias at utm.my; maning sambale; yuri
>>>>>>> resnichenko;arnulf at osgeo.org; N Tkachenko; landa
>>>>>>> martin;vfernandez at presidencia.gub.uy; Venka; Phillip
>>>>>>> Davis;nctiglao at gmail.com; Gemma Boix; elzbieta
>>>>>>> woloszynska;andreabirgitchavez at gmail.com;jfquinn at ucdavis.edu;mon
>>>>>>> ika at grid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
w.pl;maria at gridw.pl; maria brovelli; Lluís Vicens; Coetzee Serena;
>>>>>>> Jeremy Morley (Jeremy.Morley at nottingham.ac.uk) Subject:
>>>>>>> Re: ICA-OSGeo Lab Network website
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Anne and everybody
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, we are trying to do our best effort for this important
>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After first version we are working making some changes about
>>>>>>> your comments and some ideas of Us, today we will do another
>>>>>>> updates please let me knows what do you think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is a big pleasure to work with you, regards and my best wishes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>>>>> ********
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
Ing. Manuel Haro Marquez - Laboratorio de Software Libre COZCyT
>>>>>>> Proyectos de Software Libre y Abierto de la Agenda
>>>>>>> Digital manuel.haro at zacatecas.gob.mx    Tel: 9212816
>>>>>>> Ext: 117 "El conocimiento crece cuando se
>>>>>>> comparte*******************************
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne
>>>>>>> Ghisla<a.ghisla at gmail.com> To: Suchith
>>>>>>> Anand<Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> Cc: Manuel
>>>>>>> Haro<manuel.haro at zacatecas.gob.mx>, Jeff
>>>>>>> McKenna<jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>, Sergio Acosta y
>>>>>>> Lara<sacosta at dntopografia.gub.uy>, Dave
>>>>>>> Fairbairn<dave.fairbairn at newcastle.ac.uk>, Alex
>>>>>>> Mandel<aimandel at ucdavis.edu>, Charles
>>>>>>> Schweik<cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>, b j
>>>>>>> kobben<b.j.kobben at utwente.nl>, Rafael Moreno<! ;Rafael.
>>>>>>>  Moreno at ucdenver.edu>, TUONG VU
>>>>>>> THUY<Tuongthuy.Vu at nottingham.edu.my>, Rachel
>>>>>>> Gaulton<rachel.gaulton at newcastle.ac.uk>, Helena
>>>>>>> (hmitaso at ncsu.edu) Mitasova<hmitaso at ncsu.edu>, Frank
>>>>>>> Warmerdam<warmerdam at pobox.com>,rajan at iiit.ac.in, Stuart
>>>>>>> Barr<stuart.barr at newcastle.ac.uk>, Hussein
>>>>>>> Farah<farah at rcmrd.org>, Mike
>>>>>>> Jackson<Mike.Jackson at nottingham.ac.uk>, Georg
>>>>>>> Gartner<georg.gartner at tuwien.ac.at>, Dr. Franz-Josef
>>>>>>> Behr<franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>, Venkatesh
>>>>>>> Raghavan<raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>,emmanuelsambale at essc.org
>>>>>>> .ph,silv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
anacamboim at gmail.com, philip
>>>>>>> james<philip.james at newcastle.ac.uk>,mfinn at usgs.gov,
>>>>>>> CameronShorter<cameron.shorter at gmail.com>,luciene at ufpr.br,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
Tesfaye Korme<korme at rcmrd.org>, Martin
>>>>>>> D.J.<D.J.Martin at soton.ac.uk>,nctiglao at up.edu.ph,cpettit at unimelb.
>>>>>>> edu.au,a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
rletemeneguette at fct.unesp.br,jds at geodata.soton.ac.uk, Alvaro
>>>>>>> Anguix<aanguix at gvsig.com>,alias at utm.my, maning
>>>>>>> sambale<emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> <mailto:emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>, yuri resnichenko<yuri.resn!
>>>>> ichenko at ag
>>>>>
>>>>> esic.gub.uy>,arnulf at osgeo.org, N
>>>>> Tkachenko<N.Tkachenko at warwick.ac.uk>, landa
>>>>> martin<landa.martin at gmail.com>,vfernandez at presidencia.gub.uy,
>>>>>  Venka<venka.osgeo at gmail.com>, Phillip
>>>>> Davis<pdavis at delmar.edu>,nctiglao at gmail.c!
>>>>>>> om, G emma Boix<gemma at sigte.udg.edu>, elzbieta
>>>>>>> woloszynska<elzbieta.woloszynska at gridw.pl>,andreabirgitchavez at gm
>>>>>>> ail.com,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
jfquinn at ucdavis.edu,monika at gridw.pl,maria at gridw.pl, maria
>>>>>>> brovelli<maria.brovelli at diiar-topo.polimi.it>, Lluís
>>>>>>> Vicens<lluis at sigte.udg.es>, Coetzee Serena<ser!
>>>>>>> enacoetze e at gmail.com>, Jeremy Morley
>>>>>>> (Jeremy.Morley at nottingham.ac.uk)<Jeremy.Morley at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
Sent: Mon, 27 May 2013 08:38:50 -0500 (CDT)
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ICA-OSGeo Lab Network website
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:45:40 +0100 Suchith
>>>>>>> Anand<Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Manuel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks for you and your colleagues for this.
>>>>>>>> Could i request everyone to send feedbacks for
>>>>>>>> improvements/changes. We should all be able to create accounts
>>>>>>>> and starting adding relevant content of individual labs, events
>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We also need to redirect the url to OSGeo subdomain.
>>>>>>>> Anne, could you please follow up the ticket for this.
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> congratulations for the site, Manuel and team! I'll be back with
>>>>>>> improvements/ideas soon. In the meanwhile, I opened the ticket
>>>>>>> for OSGeo subdomain:
>>>>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1128
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the best, Anne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suchith ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Manuel Haro [manuel.haro at zacatecas.gob.mx]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:32 PM To: Suchith Anand Cc:
>>>>>>>> Jeff McKenna; Suchith Anand; Sergio Acosta y Lara; Dave
>>>>>>>> Fairbairn; Alex Mandel; Charles Schweik; b j kobben; Rafael
>>>>>>>> Moreno; TUONG VU THUY; Anne
>>>>>>>> (a.ghisla at gmail.com) Ghisla; Rachel Gaulton; Helena
>>>>>>>> (hmitaso at ncsu.edu) Mitasova; Frank Warmerdam; rajan at iiit.ac.in;
>>>>>>>> Stuart Barr; Hussein Farah; Mike Jackson; Georg Gartner; Dr.
>>>>>>>> Franz-Josef Behr; Venkatesh Raghavan;
>>>>>>>> emmanuelsambale at essc.org.ph;silvanacamboim at gmail.com;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
philip james; mfinn at usgs.gov;
>>>>>>>> CameronShorter;luciene at ufpr.br; Tesfaye Korme; Martin
>>>>>>>> D.J.;nctiglao at up.edu.ph;cpettit at unimelb.edu.au;
>>>>>>>> arletemeneguette at fct.unesp.br;jds at geodata.soton.ac.uk;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
Alvaro Anguix;alias at utm.my; maning sambale; yuri
>>>>>>>> resnichenko; arnulf at osgeo.org; N Tkachenko; landa
>>>>>>>> martin; vfernandez at presidencia.gub.uy; Venka; Phillip
>>>>>>>> Davis; nctiglao at gmail.com; Gemma Boix; elzbieta
>>>>>>>> woloszynska;
>>>>>>>> andreabirgitchavez at gmail.com;jfquinn at ucdavis.edu;monika at gridw.pl;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>
maria at gridw.pl; maria brovelli; Lluís Vicens; Coetzee Serena; Jeremy
>>>>>>>> Morley (Jeremy.Morley at nottingham.ac.uk) Subject:
>>>>>>>> ICA-OSGeo Lab Network website
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello everybody
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only I want to share with you the URL of OSGeo Labs
>>>>>>>> Network again www.conlibre.org/osgeolabs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The website in the first version is ready on line,
>>>>>>>> please let me knows your comments about it; we are
>>>>>>>> creating the access accounts to everybody may to
>>>>>>>> upload information to the website, anyway we have our
>>>>>>>> team dedicated to this important project and ready to
>>>>>>>> make any change and adjust.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot to all for the patience, my best
>>>>>>>> wishes... regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>
*
>>>>>>>> Ing. Manuel Haro Marquez - Laboratorio de Software
>>>>>>>> Libre COZCyT Proyectos de Software Libre y Abierto de
>>>>>>>> la Agenda Digital manuel.haro at zacatecas.gob.mx
>>>>>>>> Tel: 9212816 Ext: 117 "El conocimiento crece cuando
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