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[Charles Schweik]

Zoltan, thanks for this point!

I think overall what you are implying with your comment is what we have
been calling 'Open Geographical Science.'
We have references to this concept on our GeoForAll homepage [1], but
indeed, in the new 'Why to Join' text we need to emphasize this important
point.

Suchith:

Below is some text from the Urban proposal that is trying to make this
point and might be useful text that could be reworded to make for Reason 5.
I can provide the references if we think we want to include references.

-- Cheers, Charlie

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As we envision it,* Open Geographical Science* *and Education* is an
overarching principle that requires sharing of not only geospatial
scientific results and data but also the processes and approaches that lead
to such results. Of course, it can be argued that, geographical science –
and all of science – has operated in an “open” way for centuries through
the long-standing scientific norms of peer-review and publication. But a
new generation of Open Geographical Science is now possible, bolstered by
five key developments: (1) Internet access in much of the world; (2)
establishment of open geospatial data and interoperability standards (OGC,
2015a); (3) availability of open licenses for data and other scientific
products (Neylon, 2014); (4) ability to share intermediate research
products through open access licensing, and encourage new derivative work
through appropriate licensing; and principally, (5) establishment of
commons-based peer production approaches and systems that encourages
co-production and collective-action between scientists and scientific
organizations (Benkler, 2005; 2013; Schweik, et al., 2011).

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Siki Zoltan <siki at agt.bme.hu> wrote:

> Dear Charles,
>
> I would add a 5th reason.
>
> Reason #5: In scientific researches black boxes (commercial software) are
> not so useful. One have to know all the details of the used algorithms
> (source code) to make the right conclusions, change an algoritm (source
> code) to get new experiences. it can be done only with open source software.
>
> Universities and Geo4All labs are research centers, too.
> I hope you understand my point, may be my text have to be edited.
>
> Regards,
> Zoltan
>
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Charles Schweik wrote:
>
> Hi Suchith, all
>>
>> Patrick Hogan made some helpful edits to the text I have on my lab's site
>> (thanks Patrick!), and I then edited it a little more toward some possible
>> useful language for the 'Why universities should join' text. I'm sure
>> there
>> are other points to be made, but its a start. The text is attached.
>>
>> Suchith, not sure who is leading the update to the GeoForAll page on this
>> topic...
>>
>> Cheers
>> Charlie
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Jeff McKenna <
>> jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> On twitter just now a community leader made a comment that our website (
>>> http://www.geoforall.org) doesn't clearly point out the benefits for a
>>> university.  We outline "How to Join" (
>>> http://www.geoforall.org/how_to_join/), but not really "Why to Join".
>>>
>>> I thought this was a good point, and now that we all understand it more,
>>> it might be good to highlight this on the site.
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie Schweik
>>
>> Professor, University of Massachusetts, Amherst
>> Dept of Environmental Conservation and Center for Public Policy and
>> Administration
>>
>> Personal website: http://people.umass.edu/cschweik
>> Publications: http://works.bepress.com/charles_schweik/
>>
>> Author, Internet Success: A Study of Open Source Software (MIT Press,
>> 2012)
>> - see http://tinyurl.com/d3e4545
>>
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>>


-- 
Charlie Schweik

Professor, University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Dept of Environmental Conservation and Center for Public Policy and
Administration

Personal website: http://people.umass.edu/cschweik
Publications: http://works.bepress.com/charles_schweik/

Author, Internet Success: A Study of Open Source Software (MIT Press, 2012)
- see http://tinyurl.com/d3e4545

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