[Ica-osgeo-labs] Website feedback

Sat Aug 29 12:29:28 PDT 2015

Maria, thanks for the update on contact for the GEOlab - Politecnico di Milano.

Marco - congrats and we look forward to  working with you for building more collaborations with GEOlab - Politecnico di Milano.

Charlie - thanks. Good points. Will summarize all these ideas to the list of "Why to join" for the website.

Best wishes,

Suchith
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Dear All

this is just a communication: being one of the two EU G4A chair, I'm stepping down as contact for the GEOlab - Politecnico di Milano  and I'll be replaced by Marco Minghini (aka Mingo). Marco was the secretary of FOSS4G Europe and is an excellent researcher at GEOlab. In CC his mail address. Marco, congratulations and good work!

Happy week end to everybody!

Maria

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Inviato: sabato 29 agosto 2015 14.05
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Oggetto: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Website feedback

Zoltan, thanks for this point!

I think overall what you are implying with your comment is what we have been calling 'Open Geographical Science.'
We have references to this concept on our GeoForAll homepage [1], but indeed, in the new 'Why to Join' text we need to emphasize this important point.

Suchith:

Below is some text from the Urban proposal that is trying to make this point and might be useful text that could be reworded to make for Reason 5. I can provide the references if we think we want to include references.

-- Cheers, Charlie

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As we envision it, Open Geographical Science and Education is an overarching principle that requires sharing of not only geospatial scientific results and data but also the processes and approaches that lead to such results. Of course, it can be argued that, geographical science – and all of science – has operated in an “open” way for centuries through the long-standing scientific norms of peer-review and publication. But a new generation of Open Geographical Science is now possible, bolstered by five key developments: (1) Internet access in much of the world; (2) establishment of open geospatial data and interoperability standards (OGC, 2015a); (3) availability of open licenses for data and other scientific products (Neylon, 2014); (4) ability to share intermediate research products through open access licensing, and encourage new derivative work through appropriate licensing; and principally, (5) establishment of commons-based peer production approaches and systems that encourages co-production and collective-action between scientists and scientific organizations (Benkler, 2005; 2013; Schweik, et al., 2011).

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Siki Zoltan <siki at agt.bme.hu<mailto:siki at agt.bme.hu>> wrote:
Dear Charles,

I would add a 5th reason.

Reason #5: In scientific researches black boxes (commercial software) are not so useful. One have to know all the details of the used algorithms (source code) to make the right conclusions, change an algoritm (source code) to get new experiences. it can be done only with open source software.

Universities and Geo4All labs are research centers, too.
I hope you understand my point, may be my text have to be edited.

Regards,
Zoltan

On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Charles Schweik wrote:

Hi Suchith, all

Patrick Hogan made some helpful edits to the text I have on my lab's site
(thanks Patrick!), and I then edited it a little more toward some possible
useful language for the 'Why universities should join' text. I'm sure there
are other points to be made, but its a start. The text is attached.

Suchith, not sure who is leading the update to the GeoForAll page on this
topic...

Cheers
Charlie

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com<mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
wrote:

On twitter just now a community leader made a comment that our website (
http://www.geoforall.org) doesn't clearly point out the benefits for a
university.  We outline "How to Join" (
http://www.geoforall.org/how_to_join/), but not really "Why to Join".

I thought this was a good point, and now that we all understand it more,
it might be good to highlight this on the site.

-jeff

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