[Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/Inputs for expanding "Geo for All" to School education and more collaborations with Industry, Government etc
Suchith Anand
Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
Thu Jul 9 03:43:47 PDT 2015
Ela- yes , NGOs are also key component and UNEP/GRID-Warsaw Centre is perfect example.
As Nikos just now perfectly summarized "Geo For All is Geo For All - Together" . I hope everyone will agree and reach consensus in Como.
We can specific the type of lab (for example, University, Industry, NGO , School etc in the Notes section of the table for information purposes). In my personal opinion, we don't even need as separate table and all follow the same process (apply to the regional chairs ) and confirm that they will follow the MoU principles and criteria.
Suchith
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Dear Suchith,
And how about NGOs? We, UNEP/GRID-Warsaw Centre, are the perfect example...
Best regards,
Ela
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W dniu 2015-07-09 o 11:38, Suchith Anand pisze:
Hi Charlie,
You are right, there is nothing in the MoU that specifies that only universities or schools can be labs . My personal opinion is also that everyone following the MoU principles and our criteria should establish lab [government or industry partner etc] and as you rightly pointed out that will add more synergies.
I did receive feedback from a few colleagues that only universities/HE/FE should be able to have title of ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS labs (the argument being if government, industry etc establish their own labs, then there is no incentive for them to collaborate with the university labs ) but i think there is nothing stopping any university lab to have their own links with any industry/government/NGOs collaborations (in fact, we encouraged all university labs to set up an Advisory Board, so that they can bring in key people in industry, government etc for expanding collaborations).
This also links well to the plans for H2020 etc, the more industry, government labs we have that will further strengthen the proposals and bids.In fact, having many industry/government labs is good for this for collaborating on joint projects, mentoring programs, initiating start ups, incubation facilities etc.
So i leave this to you all and AB to discuss at Como and let us look at the bigger picture and how we all came work together for make this possible.
Suchith
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From: Charles Schweik [cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu<mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>]
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 10:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/Inputs for expanding "Geo for All" to School education and more collaborations with Industry, Government etc
Hi Suchith... You said:
...the title of ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS labs should only be for Education (i.e. only Universities, HE, FE, Schools etc be able to use the logos of ICA, OSGeo and ISPRS in their lab website etc).
With all due respect, I personally don't understand why a government or industry partner (or a hybrid, like Kurt) can't establish a lab. I think we should be totally inclusive. Looking back at the original MOU [1], I don't see anything in it that specifies that only universities or schools can be labs.
As you understand, there are important educational connections that can be made here. Some firms and government agencies are engaged in training (like FOSS4G workshops), and I'd love to see their training materials go into a common repository I hope we can finally establish this year. Moerover, there are untapped educational opportunities, such as internships or online mentoring we can establish through academia-industry-government lab connections. And, importantly, partnerships between educational and government or industry labs could be made to work on open geospatial science research (another component of education).
What we are trying to build is a global network of labs (public, private, nonprofit) contributing to 'Commons-based Peer Production' in the context of open geospatial science education and research. I have a section on the grant I am writing that describes what this is and I'm happy to share it with the list if people would like.
I look forward to the discussion on this on our first meeting next week - (Item 2, Como pre-conference meeting) [2] and then we'll also report back on what we decided at the first BOF.
Warm regards,
Charlie
[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_ICA
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Europe_2015_GeoForAll_Agenda
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