[Ica-osgeo-labs] Documenting OGC standards and OGC standards training

Sun Mar 15 06:58:51 PDT 2015

I would be interested in helping.  I probably could not start till summer

Tom

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> On Mar 15, 2015, at 8:41 AM, "Franz-Josef Behr" <franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de> wrote:
> 
> I am interested in this educational topic/work.
> 
> Some basic text input regarding the OGC standards (based on a template) can be derived by Master students in the next months.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Franz-Josef
> 
>> Am 15.03.2015 um 12:03 schrieb Suchith Anand:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I also appreciate this change in subject topic (Thanks Cameron). It is important that we focus on the bigger picture and all of us work together on the bringing Open Standards into Education and Policy (not just on this particular issue which brought this to our immediate attention).
>> 
>> Chris- thanks for this support and we welcome your offer to facilitate this with OGC and also for bringing the bigger picture on the importance of Open Standards to various government policies. For this we need to think long term and plan long term.
>> 
>> Even with all the good work , if there is no government policies to support , it does not really make a difference. In fact, having strong government level policy is a great way to make this happen. Let me give you one small example. Around one year back i was invited to present at "Opening Science to Meet Future Challenges" conference  in Warsaw https://conference2014.ceon.pl/conference/presentations/    where i also learnt about various developments and progress in Open access to research publications happening globally. Though the need for this has been actively highlighted and promoted in academic circles for decades, it was only when the European Commission through the Horizon 2020 started mandating this policy , the real change started happening. Basically all projects receiving Horizon 2020 funding will have the obligation to make sure any peer reviewed journal article they publish is openly accessible, free of charge. Details at http://ec.europa.eu/research/swafs/index.cfm?pg=policy&lib=science
>> 
>> We need to make sure  policies for Open Geospatial Standards are also mandated (esp. for government procurements) to ensure value for taxpayers money.
>> 
>> Geo for All community, we will be very happy to work with OGC in Education aspects of Open Standards. As i understand that Luis Bermudez is planning to work on a course for Open Geospatial Standards education, let us use that to start this educational collaboration and together we can make sure Open Standards in made important in the Geospatial Education Curriculum (esp. in undergraduate and postgraduate university level programs). We can arrange a tele meeting at a time convenient to all to discuss this further and plan more ideas.
>> 
>> Cameron-  the work you did for http://live.osgeo.org/en/standards/standards.html  is great starting point for us. I fully agree with your suggestion that we aim to "create a template for what is required,and then spread the work across multiple interested parties" . May i request you to help us by creating this template and then informing us and i am sure our OGC colleagues will also now join this efforts :-) ( If needed, we can get Chris to push the right contacts for us).
>> 
>> Patrick- let me thank you for your great efforts on this which made us all think and take action. Without that, we would not have come together on this bigger aim. So now, you also will have to contribute to our wiki, when the template is ready :-)
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Suchith
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter [cameron.shorter at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 8:49 AM
>> To: Christopher Tucker
>> Cc: GEORGE PERCIVALL; Carl Reed; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Documenting OGC standards and OGC standards training
>> 
>> Forwarding on Chris' email (with permission), which bounced from this list.
>> 
>> Thanks Chris for the offer of support from yourself and others from the
>> OGC. I think this is another great opportunity for OSGeo and the OGC to
>> work together.
>> It is also very valuable and motivating for us OSGeo contributors to
>> know that the OGC can help deliver OSGeo concerns to the right people.
>> 
>> Regards, Cameron
>> 
>>> On 15/03/2015 8:06 am, Christopher Tucker wrote:
>>> Cameron,
>>> 
>>> As an OGC Board member, I appreciate the subject change.  If the GeoForAll community wants any particular involvement from the OGC on this or other matters, I am more than happy to help facilitate the interaction with appropriate OGC staff and membership.
>>> 
>>> Also, coincidently, I happen to do a lot of work with leading US government investors in LiDAR technology, collection and processing - all the way up to the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy.  If their attention is required, I am happy to facilitate.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all you guys are doing.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 703-981-9373
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 14, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm bringing this email thread back onto the public ica-osgeo-labs list (CC OGC people) and changing title (with permission of Suchith).
>>>> Title was "RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the ģLAZ cloneē by ESRI" and a private conversation had started.
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Suchith,
>>>> I like the idea of bringing OGC standards into education, and would be keen to see authoritative and consistent descriptions of standards available. (We started doing this a while ago on OSGeo Live [1], but these descriptions are incomplete, out of date, and the template needs improving).
>>>> 
>>>> There was further discussion about describing standards within the OGC "Ideas4OGC" initiative [2] ~ October 2013, leading to recognition of a need for consistent descriptions of standards: including a one pager description for architects, and an implementation guide for developers.
>>>> 
>>>> There is a lot of work in developing such documentation for all standards, but if we create a template for what is required, we can then spread the work across multiple interested parties (as we have done with OSGeo-Live documentation). I'd be happy to help with creating such a template.
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://live.osgeo.org/en/standards/standards.html
>>>> [2] http://external.opengeospatial.org/twiki_public/Ideas4OGC/InitialRecommendations#Topic_20:_Quality_versus_Quantity
>>>> and
>>>> http://external.opengeospatial.org/twiki_public/Ideas4OGC/InitialRecommendations#Topic_28:_Active_Direction
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13/03/2015 8:30 pm, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>> Hi Cameron, All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not a standards expert but i am determined that i am going to do my best to improve the education aspects of Open Standards in Geo Eduation curriculum worldwide. This is long term action and we need help from all interested to join this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have done this successfully in Open Source GIS education in a very short time. For example, our GeoAcademy colleagues have not only established a very successful MOOC program ( i understand over 4000 students are enrolled for their March 2015 cohort, so the scale of expansion of this amazing) but more importantly they made available  the curriculum (lecture materials, tutorials etc) available to all educators to share and share alike under the Creative Commons BY 3.0 license at the GitHub repository at https://gi
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