[Ica-osgeo-labs] Documenting OGC standards and OGC standards training
Luis Bermudez
lbermudez at opengeospatial.org
Mon Mar 30 08:50:33 PDT 2015
Hi Cameron,
Thank you for sharing your ideas about the development of overview pages for OGC Standards. I have made a summary of what needs to be done here:
https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/wiki/Overview
You also made me realize better about the types of content that we can have. I've made a list of categories here:
https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/wiki/Goal-and-Plan
I also think that concentrating on the overview pages will be a good starting point.
Thank you.
- Luis
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Luis Bermudez, Ph.D.
Executive Director Compliance and E-Learning
Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)
The OGC: Making Location Count
Skype: bermudez_luis
Twitter: @berdez
Tel: +1 301 760 7323
http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/organization/staff/lbermudez
On Mar 27, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Luis,
> It is good to hear that OGC Standard Overviews from OSGeo-Live material is being considered as a starting point for OGC Standard documentation.
> Also good to hear that training modules are being developed. I assume that these will be 2 different types of documentation, serving different purposes?
>
> Over the last few days I've been researching existing material describing OGC standards, with the aim of helping define a template for created documentation, and a process/pipeline for developing and publishing material.
>
> I've found that wikipedia has quite a bit of material which we could draw upon. Eg, there are descriptions of most of the OGC standards [1].
>
> Wikipedia also has an excellent collaborative development process, including a translation pipeline.
>
> Wikipedia has a concept of "Style Guidelines" which can be applied to different categories. As yet, a "Style Guideline" has not been set for OGC Standards, and as such, we could define one. (I can't find a decent style guide for ISO standards, which might be worth discussing with ISO).
>
> I'd suggest that:
> * Wikipedia should be one of our target delivery formats for our "1 page overview" documents.
> * As such, we should adopt wikipedia writing conventions to make this simpler.
> * Other delivery locations should be OGC web pages, and OSGeo-Live documentation pages.
> * The OGC pages (and to a lesser extend OSGeoLive pages) need to be considered as an authoritative source, and as such should have a trusted OGC editorial review before publishing.
>
> I'm open to Luis' suggestion of developing overview pages in git, but suggest it might be better to develop in wikipedia as:
>
> 0. Define a Wikipedia "Style Guideline" for OGC Standards.
>
> 1. Collaboratively develop Overviews in Wikipedia
> 1.1 OGC provide Authoritative Review back into Wikipedia, then publish to OGC pages as authoritative source. (This might involve copying across into an OGC git repository)
> 1.2 OSGeo-Live copies these pages into OSGeo-Live docs
>
> 2. Translations coordinated through Wikipedia
>
> I'll save my ideas about content of Overview docs for another email.
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Map_Service
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout
>
> On 27/03/2015 4:09 am, Luis Bermudez wrote:
>> Hi Cameron,
>>
>> You were missed in the telecon.
>>
>> Angelos provided great information on the resources that exists in OSGeo-Live. I'm wondering how to better contribute and reuse what is at the OSGeo-Live.
>>
>> For example, will this make sense:
>> We fork some of the content from OSGeo-Live repository, make the changes/additions and then you pull from the OGC repository
>>
>> Or?
>>
>>
>> - Luis
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> Luis Bermudez, Ph.D.
>> Executive Director Compliance and E-Learning
>> Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)
>> The OGC: Making Location Count
>>
>> Skype: bermudez_luis
>> Twitter: @berdez
>> Tel: +1 301 760 7323
>> http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/organization/staff/lbermudez
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I'm keen, but not keen enough to wake up at 2am/3am (for Sydney/Australia timezone).
>>>
>>> Happy to contribute by email before/afterwards.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, I can make this timeslot:
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=19&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=189&p3=224&p4=22&p5=240&p6=196&p7=215
>>>
>>> On 18/03/2015 12:40 am, Luis Bermudez wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> For those of you interested to discuss the next steps about how to better develop and share E-Learning resources for OGC standards, I have created a doodle poll. Note that the times are in Eastern Time.
>>>> http://doodle.com/w5sr533xn95ryswu7c9s59mk/admin#table
>>>>
>>>> I will also invite folks from the OGC University Domain Working group.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will send the logistics of the meeting after we have settle on the date and time.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to a great discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> - Luis
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>> Luis Bermudez, Ph.D.
>>>> Executive Director Compliance and E-Learning
>>>> Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)
>>>> The OGC: Making Location Count
>>>>
>>>> Skype: bermudez_luis
>>>> Twitter: @berdez
>>>> Tel: +1 301 760 7323
>>>> http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/organization/staff/lbermudez
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:07 AM, Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Luis,
>>>>>
>>>>> That is excellent. Let us schedule a telecon to discuss next steps. May i suggest that you send a doodle poll with your convenient times to this list and we can then find a best time suitable for all.Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: Luis Bermudez [lbermudez at opengeospatial.org]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:32 PM
>>>>> To: Cameron Shorter; Suchith Anand
>>>>> Cc: Christopher Tucker; George Percivall; Carl Reed; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Documenting OGC standards and OGC standards training
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Suchith, Cameron and all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm very happy to see this dialog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that I have been officially appointed (tasked), I want to leverage, contribute and help move forward e-learning material related to OGC standards.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering, is it worth to schedule a telecon about the next steps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Luis
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Luis Bermudez, Ph.D.
>>>>> Executive Director Compliance and E-Learning
>>>>> Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)
>>>>> The OGC: Making Location Count
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: bermudez_luis
>>>>> Twitter: @berdez
>>>>> Tel: +1 301 760 7323
>>>>> http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/organization/staff/lbermudez
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 15, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forwarding on Chris' email (with permission), which bounced from this list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Chris for the offer of support from yourself and others from the OGC. I think this is another great opportunity for OSGeo and the OGC to work together.
>>>>>> It is also very valuable and motivating for us OSGeo contributors to know that the OGC can help deliver OSGeo concerns to the right people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Cameron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/03/2015 8:06 am, Christopher Tucker wrote:
>>>>>>> Cameron,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an OGC Board member, I appreciate the subject change. If the GeoForAll community wants any particular involvement from the OGC on this or other matters, I am more than happy to help facilitate the interaction with appropriate OGC staff and membership.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, coincidently, I happen to do a lot of work with leading US government investors in LiDAR technology, collection and processing - all the way up to the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. If their attention is required, I am happy to facilitate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all you guys are doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>> 703-981-9373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm bringing this email thread back onto the public ica-osgeo-labs list (CC OGC people) and changing title (with permission of Suchith).
>>>>>>>> Title was "RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the ģLAZ cloneē by ESRI" and a private conversation had started.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Suchith,
>>>>>>>> I like the idea of bringing OGC standards into education, and would be keen to see authoritative and consistent descriptions of standards available. (We started doing this a while ago on OSGeo Live [1], but these descriptions are incomplete, out of date, and the template needs improving).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There was further discussion about describing standards within the OGC "Ideas4OGC" initiative [2] ~ October 2013, leading to recognition of a need for consistent descriptions of standards: including a one pager description for architects, and an implementation guide for developers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a lot of work in developing such documentation for all standards, but if we create a template for what is required, we can then spread the work across multiple interested parties (as we have done with OSGeo-Live documentation). I'd be happy to help with creating such a template.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] http://live.osgeo.org/en/standards/standards.html
>>>>>>>> [2] http://external.opengeospatial.org/twiki_public/Ideas4OGC/InitialRecommendations#Topic_20:_Quality_versus_Quantity
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> http://external.opengeospatial.org/twiki_public/Ideas4OGC/InitialRecommendations#Topic_28:_Active_Direction
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2015 8:30 pm, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Cameron, All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not a standards expert but i am determined that i am going to do my best to improve the education aspects of Open Standards in Geo Eduation curriculum worldwide. This is long term action and we need help from all interested to join this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have done this successfully in Open Source GIS education in a very short time. For example, our GeoAcademy colleagues have not only established a very successful MOOC program ( i understand over 4000 students are enrolled for their March 2015 cohort, so the scale of expansion of this amazing) but more importantly they made available the curriculum (lecture materials, tutorials etc) available to all educators to share and share alike under the Creative Commons BY 3.0 license at the GitHub repository at https://gi
>>>>>>
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> Cameron Shorter,
> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> LISAsoft
> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
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