[Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to help with building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure

Charles Schweik cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
Thu May 21 02:11:48 PDT 2015


The below view makes sense to me.

I'm cc'ing the OSGeo Board list so they can see your thoughts here, Suchith.

Charlie

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Suchith Anand <
Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Charlie,
>
> My suggestion is to  have a link the GeoforAll website from OSGeo
> Education or ideally directly from OSGeo homepage. It is important to keep
> both OSGeo Education Committee and GeoforAll as they are complimentary. The
> whole idea of GeoforAll was to make this  a wider geocommunity initiative
> (hence we have OSGeo, ICA and ISPRS Presidents as cochairs in our Advisory
> Board along with GeoforAll community nominated members
> http://www.geoforall.org/advisory_board/
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
> ________________________________________
> From: Charles Schweik [cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:43 AM
> To: Phillip Davis
> Cc: Suchith Anand; Steven Feldman; discuss at lists.osgeo.org;
> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to help with
> building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure
>
> Hi,
>
> This probably relates directly to my last post to the OSGeo Board and the
> distinction between OSGeo Education Committee and GeoForAll.
>
> I think we can, and probably should, combine them. If others agree, this
> would mean building from the OSGeo Education page [1]. I have the authority
> to update that page and need to because the ELOgeo link is not functioning
> on it and some other updating is needed.
>
> My problem here is time... I'm trying to focus my attention on a GeoForAll
> grant proposal right now! If someone can come up with revised content for
> those pages (or we replace with a GeoForAll link)...
>
> But I think we should see what the board thinks about whether the
> Education group and GeoForAll should be combined or separated?
>
> Or what do others think of this question? (sorry -- I forsee a bunch of
> threads on this coming in our in-boxes!)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charlie
>
> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/education
>
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu<mailto:
> pdavis at delmar.edu>> wrote:
> Suchith you can count on my limited talents to contribute to this worthy
> and necessary cause.
>
> Phillip Davis
> ________________________________________
> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> [
> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of Suchith Anand [
> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>]
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:31 AM
> To: Steven Feldman; discuss at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>;
> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to help with building
> and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure
>
> Colleagues,
>
> I would like to call upon all of you , if you can help volunteer to build
> a website for "Geo for All" http://www.geoforall.org/  in OSGeo
> infrastructure
>
> Key advantages:
>
> 1. We can ensure long term hosting and development as the initiative grows
>
> 2. We will be able to provide the whole $5k of our budget for student
> travel awards for FOSS4G- Seoul 2015
>
> I am sure our University of Southampton colleagues will be happy to work
> with any interested volunteers to move the website from the current hosts
> (University of Southampton) to OSGeo infrastructure.
>
> It will be great if we can have many volunteers so we can spread the
> efforts. I am willing to volunteer my time and efforts for provide content
> etc for this. Could you please let us all know if you are wlling to help
> by 30th May 2015, so we can plan ideas. Thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
> [board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] On
> Behalf Of Steven Feldman [shfeldman at gmail.com<mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:11 AM
> To: Suchith Anand; OSGeo-Board
> Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of meeting tomorrow
>
> Suchith, Board
>
> We should not be diverting money from the student travel budget to build a
> web site for Geo4All. Either use the OSGeo infrastructure or get volunteers
> to spin something up, with all of the universities involved there must be
> some people with the necessary skills who can do this, we should not be
> paying Southampton to do it
>
> steven
>
> From: Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>>
> Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of meeting tomorrow
> Date: 21 May 2015 01:01:15 BST
> To: Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch<mailto:
> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch><mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>>>
> Cc: osgeo-board List <board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org
> ><mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>>, "
> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
> ><mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>>" <ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>>>
>
>
> Hi Massimiliano,
>
> Thank you for your queries.
>
> Yes, GeoforAll is 100 percent an OSGeo Education initiative (but supported
> by others like ICA, ISPRS through MoUs and we hope more like minded
> organisations who have interest in enabling Geospatial education and
> opportunities for all join us in the future).
>
> Regarding your questions:
>
> - Does a budget for Geo4All exists?
>
> Yes, the only budget we have is the $5k allocation for ICA/OSGeo Labs
> Student Travel  in the OSGeo budget last year and this year. Last year
> budget [1] if i remember correctly we did not use it .
> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2014
>
>
> - ISPRS, ICA and OSGeo how they support the initiative, apart from having
> signed the MoU?
>
> For example in addition to the amazing support that both ICA and ISPRS has
> given which helped us expand to many universities globally , they have been
> contributing to student awards etc. For example for the Europa World Wind
> challenge 2015, both ICA and ISPRS are contributing student prizes
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2015-May/001531.html  I
> remember ICA gave student awards last year also for Europa challenge.
>
> - Why Geo4All need a website hosted in Nottingham and is not using the
> OSGeo infrastructure, like the OSGeo committees (incubation, marketing,
> etc.)?
>
> First of all, it is NOT hosted in Nottingham, it is developed and hosted
> by the University of Southampton. We had long , big discussions in Geofor
> all maillists to see who can help us with the website development and
> hosting . In fact, our first offer came from colleagues in Mexico but
> unfortunately even after nearly 1 year delay nothing happened and
> thankfully that time University of Southampton colleagues  stepped in and
> volunteered to develop a website for us free and i am very grateful for
> that.
>
> If OSGeo intrstructure can be provided  and we can get volunteers for
> developing and maintaining our website , we will be very happy. The website
> is really key for us and we  need to make sure it is supported long term.
> For example, the open educational repository that we at University of
> Nottingham developed called ELOGeo, i wanted to transfer to OSGeo
> infrastructure when the project funding ended and i did send many emails
> but nothing happened. We do not want the same thing to happen to our
> website as we spend huge amounts of time and effort reaching this stage and
> hence we request support  for the website developments . As you can see
> from the links in my email there has been lot of discussions from the
> community on this and supporting our website developments is the top
> priority.
>
> - How Geo4All differentiates from the educational committee? Shall we
> consider that committee dead and replaced by Geo4All?
>
> GeoforAll is a key element of OSGeo Education initiative not replacing the
> educational committee . The biggest advantage of having GeoforAll
> initiative is that we have made OSGeo Education into a wider geocommunity
> initiative ( not just OSGeo but much wider geocommunity inititative in
> collaboration with other like minded organisations) and we need to take
> actions to expand this.
>
> Please let me know if there are any other queries. Thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
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