[Ica-osgeo-labs] [Board] Open call for volunteers to help with building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure

Sun May 24 13:29:12 PDT 2015

I suggest to add it to the agenda at the meeting in Como.

Helena

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu> wrote:

>  Seems all the work has occurred under G4A not osgeo
> On May 24, 2015 4:41 AM, Charles Schweik <cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>
> wrote:
>  I'm interested in hearing the reactions to others on this list who have
> been involved in OSGeo education group for years and before GeoForAll
> emerged on this thread (you know who you are!).
>
>  - Treat OSGeo Edu and GeoForAll as separate or combine?
>
>  We also could add this as another discussion topic at the GeoForAll
> meeting on Tuesday July 14th in FOSS4G EU Como... list the pros and cons of
> the two strategies?
>
>  Cheers,
> Charlie
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Suchith Anand <
> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> If we merge the OSGeo Education Committee into GeoForAll, the main thing
>> is to make sure it is clearly inclusive and keep continuing strong
>> participation from ICA members and ISPRS members and we want to encourage
>> more of this as this is key for the success.Also we want to encourage more
>> MoUs with other organisations (there are few in the pipeline ) and also
>> have thier members join the initiative.
>>
>> For the maillists, we will continue to have multiple maillists as the
>> initiative develops and expands. In addition to regional maillists, we will
>> keep expanding the thematic maillists (for example the AgriGIS thematic
>> that is under formation in GeoforAll).
>>
>> Suchith
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [
>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter [
>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:58 PM
>> To: Massimiliano Cannata
>> Cc: ICA OSGeo Labs list
>> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] [Board] Open call for volunteers to help
>> with building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure
>>
>> +1 to Maxi's sentiments. Having multiple email lists/web pages which
>> cover the same community merely confuses new users trying to engage with
>> the community.
>>
>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>
>> On 22/05/2015 11:37 am, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> This is my personal view that do not reflect the opinion of the board,
>> but only of a single member.
>>
>> If Geo4All is an extension of the edu committee aiming to be
>> cross-organization, I would expect the edu-com to formerly represent osgeo
>> with respect to Ica and ISPRS and this is not the case. Since there is no
>> interactions I cannot see the complimentary but only overlaps.
>>
>> Personally, I feel Geo4All has replaced the edu-com. Last email in the
>> edu-com list seems to be dated December 2014, while ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS list is
>> active.
>> Members are almost the same, so I feel there is no time and energy to
>> support both.
>>
>> Education is one of the key missions of osgeo in my opinion and spreading
>> energies doesn’t make too much sense to me.
>>
>> My 2 cents
>>
>> Maxi
>>
>> Il 21-mag-2015 05:11, "Charles Schweik" <cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>> ha scritto:
>> The below view makes sense to me.
>>
>> I'm cc'ing the OSGeo Board list so they can see your thoughts here,
>> Suchith.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Suchith Anand <
>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>> wrote:
>> Hi Charlie,
>>
>> My suggestion is to  have a link the GeoforAll website from OSGeo
>> Education or ideally directly from OSGeo homepage. It is important to keep
>> both OSGeo Education Committee and GeoforAll as they are complimentary. The
>> whole idea of GeoforAll was to make this  a wider geocommunity initiative
>> (hence we have OSGeo, ICA and ISPRS Presidents as cochairs in our Advisory
>> Board along with GeoforAll community nominated members
>> http://www.geoforall.org/advisory_board/
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Suchith
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Charles Schweik [cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu<mailto:
>> cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:43 AM
>> To: Phillip Davis
>> Cc: Suchith Anand; Steven Feldman; discuss at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> discuss at lists.osgeo.org>; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to help with
>> building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This probably relates directly to my last post to the OSGeo Board and the
>> distinction between OSGeo Education Committee and GeoForAll.
>>
>> I think we can, and probably should, combine them. If others agree, this
>> would mean building from the OSGeo Education page [1]. I have the authority
>> to update that page and need to because the ELOgeo link is not functioning
>> on it and some other updating is needed.
>>
>> My problem here is time... I'm trying to focus my attention on a
>> GeoForAll grant proposal right now! If someone can come up with revised
>> content for those pages (or we replace with a GeoForAll link)...
>>
>> But I think we should see what the board thinks about whether the
>> Education group and GeoForAll should be combined or separated?
>>
>> Or what do others think of this question? (sorry -- I forsee a bunch of
>> threads on this coming in our in-boxes!)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/education
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu<mailto:
>> pdavis at delmar.edu><mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu<mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu>>>
>> wrote:
>> Suchith you can count on my limited talents to contribute to this worthy
>> and necessary cause.
>>
>> Phillip Davis
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:
>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>> [
>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:
>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Suchith Anand [
>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>> ><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:31 AM
>> To: Steven Feldman; discuss at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> discuss at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> discuss at lists.osgeo.org>>; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>>
>> Subject: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to help with building
>> and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure
>>
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> I would like to call upon all of you , if you can help volunteer to build
>> a website for "Geo for All" http://www.geoforall.org/  in OSGeo
>> infrastructure
>>
>> Key advantages:
>>
>> 1. We can ensure long term hosting and development as the initiative grows
>>
>> 2. We will be able to provide the whole $5k of our budget for student
>> travel awards for FOSS4G- Seoul 2015
>>
>> I am sure our University of Southampton colleagues will be happy to work
>> with any interested volunteers to move the website from the current hosts
>> (University of Southampton) to OSGeo infrastructure.
>>
>> It will be great if we can have many volunteers so we can spread the
>> efforts. I am willing to volunteer my time and efforts for provide content
>> etc for this. Could you please let us all know if you are wlling to help
>> by 30th May 2015, so we can plan ideas. Thanks.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Suchith
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> ><mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>> [board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>> board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Steven Feldman [
>> shfeldman at gmail.com<mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com><mailto:
>> shfeldman at gmail.com<mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>>]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:11 AM
>> To: Suchith Anand; OSGeo-Board
>> Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of meeting tomorrow
>>
>> Suchith, Board
>>
>> We should not be diverting money from the student travel budget to build
>> a web site for Geo4All. Either use the OSGeo infrastructure or get
>> volunteers to spin something up, with all of the universities involved
>> there must be some people with the necessary skills who can do this, we
>> should not be paying Southampton to do it
>>
>> steven
>>
>> From: Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>><mailto:
>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>> ><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>>>
>> Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of meeting tomorrow
>> Date: 21 May 2015 01:01:15 BST
>> To: Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch<mailto:
>> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch><mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
>> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>><mailto:
>> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch<mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
>> ><mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch<mailto:
>> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>>>>
>> Cc: osgeo-board List <board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org
>> ><mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>><mailto:
>> board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:
>> board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>>>, "
>> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>> ><mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
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>> <ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>> ><mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
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>>
>>
>> Hi Massimiliano,
>>
>> Thank you for your queries.
>>
>> Yes, GeoforAll is 100 percent an OSGeo Education initiative (but
>> supported by others like ICA, ISPRS through MoUs and we hope more like
>> minded organisations who have interest in enabling Geospatial education and
>> opportunities for all join us in the future).
>>
>> Regarding your questions:
>>
>> - Does a budget for Geo4All exists?
>>
>> Yes, the only budget we have is the $5k allocation for ICA/OSGeo Labs
>> Student Travel  in the OSGeo budget last year and this year. Last year
>> budget [1] if i remember correctly we did not use it .
>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2014
>>
>>
>> - ISPRS, ICA and OSGeo how they support the initiative, apart from having
>> signed the MoU?
>>
>> For example in addition to the amazing support that both ICA and ISPRS
>> has given which helped us expand to many universities globally , they have
>> been contributing to student awards etc. For example for the Europa World
>> Wind challenge 2015, both ICA and ISPRS are contributing student prizes
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2015-May/001531.html  I
>> remember ICA gave student awards last year also for Europa challenge.
>>
>> - Why Geo4All need a website hosted in Nottingham and is not using the
>> OSGeo infrastructure, like the OSGeo committees (incubation, marketing,
>> etc.)?
>>
>> First of all, it is NOT hosted in Nottingham, it is developed and hosted
>> by the University of Southampton. We had long , big discussions in Geofor
>> all maillists to see who can help us with the website development and
>> hosting . In fact, our first offer came from colleagues in Mexico but
>> unfortunately even after nearly 1 year delay nothing happened and
>> thankfully that time University of Southampton colleagues  stepped in and
>> volunteered to develop a website for us free and i am very grateful for
>> that.
>>
>> If OSGeo intrstructure can be provided  and we can get volunteers for
>> developing and maintaining our website , we will be very happy. The website
>> is really key for us and we  need to make sure it is supported long term.
>> For example, the open educational repository that we at University of
>> Nottingham developed called ELOGeo, i wanted to transfer to OSGeo
>> infrastructure when the project funding ended and i did send many emails
>> but nothing happened. We do not want the same thing to happen to our
>> website as we spend huge amounts of time and effort reaching this stage and
>> hence we request support  for the website developments . As you can see
>> from the links in my email there has been lot of discussions from the
>> community on this and supporting our website developments is the top
>> priority.
>>
>> - How Geo4All differentiates from the educational committee? Shall we
>> consider that committee dead and replaced by Geo4All?
>>
>> GeoforAll is a key element of OSGeo Education initiative not replacing
>> the educational committee . The biggest advantage of having GeoforAll
>> initiative is that we have made OSGeo Education into a wider geocommunity
>> initiative ( not just OSGeo but much wider geocommunity inititative in
>> collaboration with other like minded organisations) and we need to take
>> actions to expand this.
>>
>> Please let me know if there are any other queries. Thanks.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Suchith
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