[Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM

Wed Oct 14 10:04:02 PDT 2015

We’ve put together a little disclaimer card for the users, advising them to use a fairly recent Laptop, and what the basic requirements are.  We all use the same USB for teaching workshops.  While there are usually one or two in the group that bring in an older laptop, we’ve always been able to eventually get them working.

bobb

On Oct 14, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Peter Baumann <baumann at rasdaman.com<mailto:baumann at rasdaman.com>> wrote:

Bobb-

On 2015-10-14 16:52, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
All,

We’ve had success locally/regionally with preparing thumb drives with OSGeo-Live.  I’m not sure about running everything over the internet in a training scenario, but there may be some good reasons to put some of the services into a dedicated location for online use.

I see several reasons:
- the USB drive is getting too small for the stuff to be shown. And we cannot
use bigger sticks as MacOS doesn't eat them (that's what I have been told).
- I have experienced some people being hesitant to boot from a stick due to
security concerns: "will it now transfer my harddisk contents into the Internet?"
- at demos there is a zillion of different participant laptops around causing
all sort of trouble. It is just convenient to point to a website instead.
- while now most demos are not cloud-ready (so they would run in a VM, but not
utilize a cloud) this is an option for the future: the infrastructure will be
prepared.

The idea of having a online version running gets the idea mill running, what if something like that could be used to pick and choose from for preparing a USB drive for training sessions?

Absolutely! We do that already, in fact: our OSGeo Live contribution, rasdaman,
is a subset of a larger, configurable demo - we were forced to do that due to
the data size constraints imposed by the USB size, see above).

-Peter

bobb

On Oct 14, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Sure. I am ccing both the Education community and OSGeo live communities in this, so we get more ideas/inputs to make this possible.

To give some background, we now have OSGeo Live being used not only for running workshops in FOSS4G conferences but in so many training programs/workshops/tutorials around the world. It is also a key resource for geoeducation. So to make it more easy and scaleable for organising and running  these training events globally, i would like to get inputs for Venka's ideas (details in email below)

May i request all interested to please give your ideas/inputs esp. on

1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM

2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible

Looking forward to your inputs.

Suchith

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Subject: Re: Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM

Hi Suchith,
Good idea. Would it be ok if we discuss on a public email list? Probably
osgeo-live list, or education list.
Part of the success would come from people collating content for such a
course (which could be based on OSGeo-Live Quickstarts).

Warm regards, Cameron

On 14/10/2015 1:57 am, Suchith Anand wrote:
Hi all,

Myself, Maria and Peter are now at ESA event and had a chance to catch up on ideas for future to expand education globally.

I also remembered that few months back, we had an initial discussion on  the importance of having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM to help running workshops at conferences, training events etc. Venka made this idea in one of the Geo4All AB discussions on workshops at FOSS4G Bonn that i copy below

"Instead of buying 80-100 computers, it could be a worth considering to pay for a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM. Maybe one of our sponsoring companies could be approached to deploy such OSGeo Software as a Service solution.Such service could be made available to any event/institution wishing to run their own workshops anywhere place on earth with a good internet connection and thin client. For subsequent events or users could be charged to cover cost of cloud hosting and paying for some developers to maintain the system.If the experiment is successful, we can think of replicating it in our globally through our local chapters."

Me, Maria and Peter in our discussions today, thought it is good time to start doing something about this and have this for scaling up our education and training needs globally. So it will be good to get ideas from key people, so i request you all to give your thoughts/ideas.

1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM.

2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible

Looking forward to your inputs.

Suchith

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