[Geo4All] UN SDG mapping book updates

Fri Jun 2 07:45:25 PDT 2017

Dear all:

Sorry that I sent a draft response before finishing editing it.

I will send a final version soon, please ignore the previous one.

Silvana

2017-06-02 11:42 GMT-03:00 Silvana Camboim <silvanacamboim at gmail.com>:

> Dear all:
>
> As the current chair of ICA Commission on Open Source Geotechnologies I
> thinks can help to make some points clearer about this book.
>
> Each commission was responsible for one goal. Ours (Open Source
> Geotechnologies) was mapping inequality. The content was created in
> collaboration with all Geo4All network (Geo4All Cartographic Challenge). It
> was committed with our open principles: as it detailed the activities of 4
> labs around the world. As this will be published by ESRI Press, and the
> format will be discussed during ICC in Washington, but until now there is
> no influence of the software vendor in the content of the book. The
> original posters are available openly since the UN exhibition last year.
>
> The concern that the ESRI as editor Will have some influence about the
> content is legitimate, but you can be sure that I will careful during the
> process to guarantee that our contributions will mirror the open source
> principles.
>
> The discussion about open publishing is welcome, but we know that we are
> still not in the point that this is
>
> One idea is maybe to create an Open Tutorial or webinar series on UN SDG
> goals, maybe with the UN working group? That will complement the ICA
> iniative and could be a great chance to further disseminate the potential
> of Open Source and Open Education.
>
> Em 2 de jun de 2017 10:26, "Suchith Anand" <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
> escreveu:
>
> Dear Anthony,
>
> Free and Open discussions are the way we work and we greatly welcome
> different ideas and perspectives. We value everyone's inputs and everyone
> are welcome to join and provide inputs. We won't be able to even have this
> open discussion in the properitery GIS vendor mail lists. You won't be able
> to even send an email on GeoForAll to the properitery GIS vendor's
> education maillist! You are always welcome to share your ideas to geoforall
> community, GeoforAll advisory board, OSGeo Board and we will be happy to
> discuss ideas.
>
> To be clear my specific query was on this particular issue where the
> voluntary contributions of  all commissions (including commission on open
> source  geospatial technologies that I am a member) for the UN SDG
> “Mapping” Goals are to be published as a book  . Having it sponsored and
> published by a properitery GIS vendor will mean they will have their own
> agenda promoted as the Mapping agenda for UN SDG.  We have so many examples
> already where properitery GIS vendors have used sponsorship as backdoor to
> have their agenda pushed. It is important we learn from experiences . We
> are a education and scientific community and it is important we work with
> all and listen to all perspectives but as this book is specifically
> related to UN SDG it should not be used for any sponsorship activities from
> any vendors or pushing any specific vendor agendas.
>
> This book is done by volunteer efforts of members and should be published
> as an open book through the ICA website in creative commons licence. So I
> really don’t understand why this important collaborative work on UN SDG
> needs to be published specifically through properitery GIS vendor
> publishing house  who will have conflict of interest to open solutions and
> open principles.  Open solutions and principles are also key part of
> achieving UN SDG 2030.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu>
> Sent: 02 June 2017 11:14 AM
> To: Anthony Robinson
> Cc: Anand Suchith; geoforall at lists.osgeo.org; Menno-Jan Kraak;
> sg at icaci.org
> Subject: Re: [Geo4All] UN SDG mapping book updates
>
> Finally, I'll add that I think it is quite problematic that there appears
> to
> be no collaborative decision making process by which GeoForAll speaks out
> on
> issues like this one. If I'm wrong about that I'd be happy to be corrected.
>
> Anthony - this is just to clarify:
> we do have a collaborative decision making process  to speak out -
> the issues can be presented to geoforall advisory board for discussion and
> potential geoforall official statement or if it is a broader issue OSGeo
> board can take it up as well. But anybody can initiate an open discussion
> and I think that is what Suchith is doing - sharing his ideas and thoughts
> on his issue.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Anthony
>
> Anthony C. Robinson, PhD
> Assistant Professor, Department of Geography
> Director for Online Geospatial Education, John A. Dutton e-Education
> Institute
> Assistant Director, GeoVISTA Center
> The Pennsylvania State University
> sites.psu.edu/arobinson/<http://sites.psu.edu/arobinson/>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: GeoForAll [mailto:geoforall-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
> geoforall-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of
> Suchith Anand
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:39 AM
> To: geoforall at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:geoforall at lists.osgeo.org>;
> m.j.kraak at utwente.nl<mailto:m.j.kraak at utwente.nl>; sg at icaci.org<mailto:
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> Subject: [Geo4All] UN SDG mapping book updates
>
> Dear  colleagues,
>
> As you are aware there is some excellent work done by our ICA colleagues by
> highlighting the value of cartography by “mapping” the UN sustainable
> development goals. Silvana and our colleagues have done excellent work
> highlighting the importance of openness in reducing inequalities.
>
> I believe this is a very important activity  but recently  I came to know
> that the book  proposal that is planned  to be developed from this is being
> planned to be published through a properitery GIS vendor ‘s publishing
> house. Hence I have written to Menno-Jan requesting him to consider
> publication on this important issue through  any neutral academic
> publishing
> houses as publishing this through properitery GIS vendor ‘s publishing
> company is against the spirit of openness in geo education and ICA-OSGeo
> MoU
> .  I think it is important to have both properitery and open solutions but
> ICA as an organisation should be neutral . Hence very important not to
> promote Properitery vendor agenda esp in UN SDG work by having the
> properitery GIS vendor publishing this. As an ordinary ICA volunteer  I am
> disappointed to see this.  I am grateful that Menno-Jan has understood my
> concern and I hope this will be rectified asap.
>
> I will keep you updated on the developments.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
>
>
>
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