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    Dear Suchith,<br>
    <br>
    thank you for your message and concerns. I'd like to bring in some
    clarification.<br>
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      <li>Basically certification for FOSS should be based on the
        community for the community. </li>
      <li>Accreditation must be given by an acknowledged organisation
        like OSGeo, as you mentioned, and perhaps other communities
        (i.e. QGIS association [1]). This should be the "umbrella".</li>
      <li>Examinations should be endorsed by acknowledged Universities
        (i.e. Geo4All members). Here I am looking for supporters.<br>
      </li>
      <li>Education is provided by certified trainers (still further
        work needed)</li>
      <li>Organisational work and management has to be done by an
        agency. This could be an opportunity for Tanzeel.</li>
    </ol>
    <br>
    In my opinion FOSS4G/OSGeo certifications can be beneficial for all
    participants:<br>
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    <ul>
      <li>for the community</li>
      <li>for the further dissemination of open tools, data, and
        standards</li>
      <li>for the trainees</li>
      <li>for the trainers</li>
      <li>for the companies looking for employees</li>
      <li>for the organising agency</li>
      <li>for Universities (offering education).</li>
    </ul>
    Similar to [1] certification should have either a fixed, moderate
    cost, or a cost relative to the  GDP/mean salary of the country of
    origin of the trainee <br>
    <br>
    Suchith and colleagues, I'd really appreciate your support and your
    ideas.<br>
    <br>
    Regards<br>
    Franz-Josef<br>
    [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Certification">http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Certification</a><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 19.10.2015 um 15:42 schrieb Suchith
      Anand:<br>
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        <div><font size="3">Thank you for the email and more
            information. The idea of <span style="font-family: 'Times
              New Roman'; ">open source certification model based on
              geospatial technology competency model is good BUT i do
              have concerns  on your  aim to </span><span
              style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">commercialise
              this certification under the umberella of  a private
              company.  OSGeo Board should be the one who should be able
              to take the decision on certification for OSGeo software
              training.</span></font></div>
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        <div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font
              size="3">I was not aware of your discussions with Jeff and
              others on this that you mention in your mail . I am ccing
              this to our education colleagues, so they can give an
              informed answer and suggestions to this. I suggest that
              you email the OSGeo Board with all details, so that they
              will be able to give you suggestions on the best way for
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              size="3">Best wishes,</font></span></div>
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                color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b>
                tanzeel rehman [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com">tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com</a>]<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19, 2015 2:20 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk">suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for
                Leaders in Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt
                Newton-Mosharafa Program<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Dear Suchith<br>
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                Thanks for concerns .yes it is my master thesis and I
                develop an open source certification model based on
                geospatial technology competency model. I preseneted
                this topic in FOSS4g Como pre conference and it was
                highly appriciated even some of guys were really
                intrested. We had a meeting also for accereditation and
                approval for this model and jeff suggested that it
                should be project based certifocation. Now a days me in
                spokane for gis pro confernece because i want to
                commercialise this certification under the umberella of
                my new born company spatial junction <br>
                And my second supervisor phillip davis  appriciated
                alot.<br>
                I need support and suggesstions from all of you to
                uplift the OSgeo model<br>
                Thanks<br>
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                From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
                To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com">tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com</a><br>
                CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders in
                Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa
                Program<br>
                Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:45:14 +0000<br>
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                  color:#000000; font-size:10pt">Hi Tanzeel,
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                  <div>Apologies i could not understand the background
                    discussion on the topic on certification. From
                    Frans-Josef email some time back i understand this
                    is something related to your Masters Thesis. Is this
                    correct? Did you discuss this with the OSGeo Board?
                     If it is related to OSGeo certification then you
                    should get approval from the OSGeo Board first.</div>
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                  <div>Best wishes,</div>
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                  <div>Suchith</div>
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