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Dear Elżbieta,<br>
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I try to answer your question:<br>
<br>
1. The goal is to create a portfolio of certifications related to
the usage and implementation of Geo-spatial Open Source solutions
(as we discussed in Como). So far we take the following
certifications into approach (with 2 - 3 sub-categories):<br>
<br>
<ol>
<li>Positioning and data acquisition</li>
<li>Analysis and Modeling</li>
<li>Software, Application and Development</li>
</ol>
<br>
Hence it is geared to "some broader knowledge & skills related
to implementation of GI tools and spatial dat". As you can see it's
not product-oriented but Tanzeel developed suggestions for the usage
of tools from the OSGeo Projects [1]<br>
<br>
2. I think that QGIS certification is product specific and hence
complimentary<br>
<br>
Regards - Franz-Josef <br>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/">http://www.osgeo.org/</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.10.2015 um 12:14 schrieb Elżbieta
Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska:<br>
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Dear Franz-Josef, Tanzeel,<br>
<br>
Your conversation with Suchith it's quite similar to the one we
did in Nodebo during the 1st QGIS Conference (then it was
obviously related to QGIS only).<br>
<br>
I have two general questions... <br>
No. 1 What does it mean "FOSS4G/OsGeo certification"? What kind of
competences should be covered by this certification - use of
specific soft only (which one) or some broader knowledge &
skills related to implementation of GI tools and spatial data?<br>
No. 2 How is your idea related to QGIS certification (mentioned in
the email)?<br>
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Regards,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 2015-10-20 o 11:45,
Franz-Josef Behr pisze:<br>
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type="cite"> Dear Suchith,<br>
<br>
thank you for your message and concerns. I'd like to bring in
some clarification.<br>
<br>
<ol>
<li>Basically certification for FOSS should be based on the
community for the community. </li>
<li>Accreditation must be given by an acknowledged
organisation like OSGeo, as you mentioned, and perhaps other
communities (i.e. QGIS association [1]). This should be the
"umbrella".</li>
<li>Examinations should be endorsed by acknowledged
Universities (i.e. Geo4All members). Here I am looking for
supporters.<br>
</li>
<li>Education is provided by certified trainers (still further
work needed)</li>
<li>Organisational work and management has to be done by an
agency. This could be an opportunity for Tanzeel.</li>
</ol>
<br>
In my opinion FOSS4G/OSGeo certifications can be beneficial for
all participants:<br>
<br>
<ul>
<li>for the community</li>
<li>for the further dissemination of open tools, data, and
standards</li>
<li>for the trainees</li>
<li>for the trainers</li>
<li>for the companies looking for employees</li>
<li>for the organising agency</li>
<li>for Universities (offering education).</li>
</ul>
Similar to [1] certification should have either a fixed,
moderate cost, or a cost relative to the GDP/mean salary of the
country of origin of the trainee <br>
<br>
Suchith and colleagues, I'd really appreciate your support and
your ideas.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Franz-Josef<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 19.10.2015 um 15:42 schrieb
Suchith Anand:<br>
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<div><font size="3">Thank you for the email and more
information. The idea of <span style="font-family:
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based on geospatial technology competency model is
good BUT i do have concerns on your aim to </span><span
style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">commercialise
this certification under the umberella of a private
company. OSGeo Board should be the one who should be
able to take the decision on certification for OSGeo
software training.</span></font></div>
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size="3">I was not aware of your discussions with Jeff
and others on this that you mention in your mail . I
am ccing this to our education colleagues, so they can
give an informed answer and suggestions to this. I
suggest that you email the OSGeo Board with all
details, so that they will be able to give you
suggestions on the best way for this.</font></span></div>
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color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b>
tanzeel rehman [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com">tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19, 2015 2:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk">suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for
Leaders in Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt
Newton-Mosharafa Program<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Suchith<br>
<br>
Thanks for concerns .yes it is my master thesis and
I develop an open source certification model based
on geospatial technology competency model. I
preseneted this topic in FOSS4g Como pre conference
and it was highly appriciated even some of guys were
really intrested. We had a meeting also for
accereditation and approval for this model and jeff
suggested that it should be project based
certifocation. Now a days me in spokane for gis pro
confernece because i want to commercialise this
certification under the umberella of my new born
company spatial junction <br>
And my second supervisor phillip davis appriciated
alot.<br>
I need support and suggesstions from all of you to
uplift the OSgeo model<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
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To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com">tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com</a><br>
CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders
in Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt
Newton-Mosharafa Program<br>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:45:14 +0000<br>
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<div>Apologies i could not understand the
background discussion on the topic on
certification. From Frans-Josef email some time
back i understand this is something related to
your Masters Thesis. Is this correct? Did you
discuss this with the OSGeo Board? If it is
related to OSGeo certification then you should
get approval from the OSGeo Board first.</div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Suchith</div>
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