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Hi all,<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot for joining a discussion, providing feedback and
comments, asking additional questions. I set up the wikipage to
gather all information concerning education at FOSS4G 2016
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2016_Education">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2016_Education</a>).<br>
<br>
Summing up...<br>
Conference - we agree on having education included into general
track. Great! Work in progress... :-)<br>
Workshop - we have quite a lot of people open for the idea of
educational workshop at FOSS4G 2016. However, there are some
important issues which need to be discussed. <br>
<br>
First of all (Nikos is 100% right) - was is/are our target group(s)?
<br>
Looking at the different background of ICA-OsGeo Labs we have at
least 5 different groups:<br>
1) academics working with students over 19 at the universities,<br>
2) school teachers, working with children aged 6-12/14 (primary
education) - in different countries we have different educational
system so also different age groups<br>
3) school teachers, working with young people aged 12/14-19
(secondary education) - in different countries we have different
educational system so also different age groups<br>
4) teacher trainers, so educators responsible for improving
pre-service and/or in-service school teachers skills and knowledge,<br>
5) GI educators responsible for improving GIS skills and knowledge
of very different groups of users (specialists, scientists, public
administration staff, etc.)<br>
<br>
Well... We can of course make not 1 workshop but 2 or more (if room
is still available) but what's crucial - how to get participants for
the training? Moreover, how to get participants for only one-day
training?<br>
<br>
In my opinion, we would have no problems to get people from group no
1. and no. 5 - they will be in Bonn :-) <br>
But, as far as group no. 2, 3 and 4 are concerned, it will be much
harder. School teachers can be financially supported by their
schools but for 1-day training that can be not so easy.<br>
If we want this group to come - how can we support them? First of
all, get money to cover their travel expenses. That's the most
important. I know quite a lot of teachers from Belgium for example
who would be interested to come, if they get this kind of support.
Any ideas on how to do it (except for Till's proposal to ask OsGeo
for help)?<br>
<br>
So dear ICA-OsGeo Lab members, to make a general discussion more
concrete - please declare your <b>ideas on specific training</b>
that <b>you </b>would like to lead on FOSS4G 2016 using above
mentioned Wikipage. That would help a lot!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ela<b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#000066" lang="EN-US"></span></b><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#000066" lang="EN-US"><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 2015-10-26 o 13:15, Charlie
Schweik pisze:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sorry - my bad, Nikos. I am considering all levels
but brought in the university here.
<div>I think we should have both areas!</div>
<div>Charlie</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 6:36 AM, <span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">To be honest, I am getting confused.
One time you are talking about university education
and the nest time about schools.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Maybe we should decide or group our
desires. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Some should think about the tertiary
education, some about secondary and others (like me)
about primary. Should we allocate different people,
as contact persons, to lead the discussion for each
level of education?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Nikos</span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> <u><a
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lang="EN-US">Aristotle University of Thessaloniki,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
Ela,<br>
<br>
I find the ideas absolutely wonderful. <br>
Regarding workshop for teachers, in Como we talked
also about to look for funding in order to open it to
people around Europe, and not only germany. But we all
agreed that it would be difficult in schools.<br>
<br>
On the other hand, in Spain we are having some debate
around how difficult is to find students in GIS,
although geographic information seams key. If it is a
generic problem, maybe it would be interesting to
prepare a round table to talk about the item.<br>
Some of us think that the term GIS is not a fashion
term and maybe we should have to "fashionate" it. I
don't know. <br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Toni<br>
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<b><span
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#2e3a69">Antoni
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Estudis d'Informàtica, Multimèdia i Telecomunicació <br>
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enviat el 25.10.2015 13:33</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Ela, </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See my thoughts below in-line:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 4:32
PM, El?bieta Wo?oszy?ska-Wi?niewska <<a
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href="mailto:ela@gridw.pl" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ela@gridw.pl">ela@gridw.pl</a></a>>
wrote: </p>
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There are two main options:<br>
<br>
No. 1 ? <strong>conference</strong> itself
(24-26th of August)<br>
<br>
Education will be mentioned as one of the
special topics in the General track. So during
the general program selection a special focus
will be put on education-related
presentations. The idea was not to make these
presentations too much research-oriented (as
in acadeic track) but really practical.<br>
As Volker (chair of program committee)
mentioned:"My plan is to give the slots (3
talks in a row) some kind of topic. Those
would be then be ?education?.<br>
I really like this idea ? it would help to
make this topic more visible and help people
who are interested to find proper time and
room ;-)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think this is a good
idea. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In Como, you'll recall
there was a paper by the NCSU team about their
educational material and how they made
datasets generic, or perhaps people could
consider presenting issues such as how they
are teaching various topics like
geocrowdsourcing, Volunteer geographic
information, geo-sensor webs, geo-temporal
visualization, modeling, or some other area.
Maybe there could be a call for papers?</p>
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<p>No. 2 ? <strong>pre-conference, education
workshop</strong> (23rd of August )<br>
<br>
We have a chance to organise pre-conference
workshop! </p>
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<p>In Como we talked about two options: a)
having workshop for German school teachers
on use of FOSS4G (e.g. QGIS) in education,
b) having workshop for teacher trainers to
show them how they can motivate and attract
teachers to open GIS. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think these are both good
ideas too. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One update on my end. The
GeoForAll urban thematic has a grant proposal
under review right now. Like all grant
proposals -- It's a long shot -- but if funded
it would provide funding to support a US
GeoForAll scholar to go to Bonn to offer a
training workshop at FOSS4G 2016. The topic
would be either a 'Research Methods' workshop
or a 'Train the Trainer' workshop - probably
targeting university researchers and
educators. I don't know when we will hear
about the funding, but my guess is that it
will be in early 2016, and if it comes in,
we'll have a call for workshop topics. So I'll
let you know if it comes in.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I encourage others in our
community to go after funds like this that
would help fund/support these kinds of
educational or research workshops to happen in
future FOSS4G global or regional events!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,</p>
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