From theduckylittle at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 12:54:38 2024
From: theduckylittle at gmail.com (Dan Little)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:54:38 -0500
Subject: [geomoose-psc] SharedGeo Sponsorship and Funding
Message-ID: <CABqPoBYx=WOYzReHnwMYM31+BSR2fDu+YuLvSx9WKJpdzJRR4g@mail.gmail.com>

Hey folks,

As a few of you are aware, we have some funding available via SharedGeo. We
are able to spend the funds however we'd like but we definitely need to
spend them or they will become unavailable.

I would like to use some or all of that funding as a bootstrap for GeoMoose
4.0. What would other members of the PSC like to see which would make that
practical? A scope of work, if so how detailed? I'm open to various ideas
on how to do this the right way.

Also, anyone have suggestions for a platform which would allow doing a
demo? I've got some work put into the concepts for GM4 and would love to
show it to folks as a better way to get an idea of where I think we should
head.

Cheers!
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From eadam at co.lincoln.or.us  Wed Jul 17 13:23:48 2024
From: eadam at co.lincoln.or.us (Eli Adam)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 20:23:48 +0000
Subject: [geomoose-psc] SharedGeo Sponsorship and Funding
In-Reply-To: <CABqPoBYx=WOYzReHnwMYM31+BSR2fDu+YuLvSx9WKJpdzJRR4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABqPoBYx=WOYzReHnwMYM31+BSR2fDu+YuLvSx9WKJpdzJRR4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PH0PR09MB863544DE6CDE2B2B2BC04965CAA32@PH0PR09MB8635.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Dan and all,

There are a few different causes of a major version/milestone.  In past major upgrades, that's come in two varieties: 1) driven by updates in or replacements in underlying libraries (OpenLayers, Dojo, jquery, React, etc, etc.) and 2) major additions (or restorations) of functionality.

As part of the scoping, we should decide what type of version advance this is and what realm we're operating in.

We should also evaluate the greater geospatial context.  I'm fairly happy with GeoMoose functionality, the niche filled, and positioning within the greater geospatial tech environment.  One thing that might be worth discussing is hosting- self hosting is becoming more rare.

As far as the logistics of a meeting including a demo (is text/irc not the obvious choice for a demo?), I think that most of us can probably find a way to work with most platforms (zoom, google meeting, Teams, Jitsi, etc).  We might want to schedule more time for this so that we're able to have full discussions.

Best regards, Eli
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From: geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Dan Little via geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 12:54 PM
To: GeoMOOSE PSC <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: [geomoose-psc] SharedGeo Sponsorship and Funding

Hey folks,

As a few of you are aware, we have some funding available via SharedGeo. We are able to spend the funds however we'd like but we definitely need to spend them or they will become unavailable.

I would like to use some or all of that funding as a bootstrap for GeoMoose 4.0. What would other members of the PSC like to see which would make that practical? A scope of work, if so how detailed? I'm open to various ideas on how to do this the right way.

Also, anyone have suggestions for a platform which would allow doing a demo? I've got some work put into the concepts for GM4 and would love to show it to folks as a better way to get an idea of where I think we should head.

Cheers!
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From jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com  Thu Jul 18 07:08:24 2024
From: jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com (Jeff McKenna)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:08:24 -0300
Subject: [geomoose-psc] Matrix room setup (and bridge to IRC room)
Message-ID: <f04daffc-e9a5-43a5-a26a-57da7e617ce4@gatewaygeomatics.com>

Hi PSC,

I created a new "GeoMoose" room on Matrix, and with the help of @strk we 
created a bridge to our old #geomoose IRC room - this means that devs 
can connect with the many matrix clients (see long list at 
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/ ) and chat seamlessly with those 
on IRC, in the same room.

Here are the connection details:

Matrix
   Server:
     matrix.osgeo.org
   Channel:
     #geomoose:osgeo.org

IRC
   Server:
     irc.libera.chat
   Channel:
     #geomoose

For our PSC meetings, this means that devs can connect from many 
platforms, and we also get the benefit of logs ( 
https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23geomoose:osgeo.org )

-jeff




From eadam at co.lincoln.or.us  Thu Jul 18 13:35:40 2024
From: eadam at co.lincoln.or.us (Eli Adam)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:35:40 +0000
Subject: [geomoose-psc] Matrix room setup (and bridge to IRC room)
In-Reply-To: <f04daffc-e9a5-43a5-a26a-57da7e617ce4@gatewaygeomatics.com>
References: <f04daffc-e9a5-43a5-a26a-57da7e617ce4@gatewaygeomatics.com>
Message-ID: <PH0PR09MB863555A8F100FD8BF8D33B95CAAC2@PH0PR09MB8635.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jeff,

What is the purpose of matrix?  Is this to support a visual demo?

The log link doesn't seem to work for me.

Best regards, Eli

________________________________
From: geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Jeff McKenna via geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 7:08 AM
To: GeoMOOSE PSC <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: [geomoose-psc] Matrix room setup (and bridge to IRC room)

Hi PSC,

I created a new "GeoMoose" room on Matrix, and with the help of @strk we
created a bridge to our old #geomoose IRC room - this means that devs
can connect with the many matrix clients (see long list at
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/ ) and chat seamlessly with those
on IRC, in the same room.

Here are the connection details:

Matrix
   Server:
     matrix.osgeo.org
   Channel:
     #geomoose:osgeo.org

IRC
   Server:
     irc.libera.chat
   Channel:
     #geomoose

For our PSC meetings, this means that devs can connect from many
platforms, and we also get the benefit of logs (
https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23geomoose:osgeo.org )

-jeff



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From jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com  Thu Jul 18 14:13:51 2024
From: jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com (Jeff McKenna)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:13:51 -0300
Subject: [geomoose-psc] Matrix room setup (and bridge to IRC room)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR09MB863555A8F100FD8BF8D33B95CAAC2@PH0PR09MB8635.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <f04daffc-e9a5-43a5-a26a-57da7e617ce4@gatewaygeomatics.com>
 <PH0PR09MB863555A8F100FD8BF8D33B95CAAC2@PH0PR09MB8635.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <6f77dd36-f3bd-4e27-9a34-0bd1aca47b16@gatewaygeomatics.com>

Matrix is a text-based chat system, similar to IRC, but with more 
support/apps (on your phone or desktop, install a client like "Element", 
and you'll see what I mean, it no longer feels like old IRC).

If this adds confusion, we can ignore it (cost was free anyway ha).  The 
GeoMoose rooms on IRC and Matrix are linked now anyway, so conversation 
is seamless - choose either method you wish.

Yes am aware that the log link bounces to a broken link, not sure why 
yet...anyway until today we had no logs, so, I didn't think this was a 
show-stopper.


-jeff



On 2024-07-18 5:35 p.m., Eli Adam wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> What is the purpose of matrix?? Is this to support a visual demo?
> 
> The log link doesn't seem to work for me.
> 
> Best regards, Eli
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:*?geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of 
> Jeff McKenna via geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Sent:*?Thursday, July 18, 2024 7:08 AM
> *To:*?GeoMOOSE PSC <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject:*?[geomoose-psc] Matrix room setup (and bridge to IRC room)
> Hi PSC,
> 
> I created a new "GeoMoose" room on Matrix, and with the help of @strk we
> created a bridge to our old #geomoose IRC room - this means that devs
> can connect with the many matrix clients (see long list at
> https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/ 
> <https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/>?) and chat seamlessly with those
> on IRC, in the same room.
> 
> Here are the connection details:
> 
> Matrix
>  ?? Server:
>  ???? matrix.osgeo.org
>  ?? Channel:
>  ???? #geomoose:osgeo.org
> 
> IRC
>  ?? Server:
>  ???? irc.libera.chat
>  ?? Channel:
>  ???? #geomoose
> 
> For our PSC meetings, this means that devs can connect from many
> platforms, and we also get the benefit of logs (
> https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23geomoose:osgeo.org 
> <https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23geomoose:osgeo.org>?)
> 
> -jeff
> 
> 

From jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com  Thu Jul 18 14:56:42 2024
From: jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com (Jeff McKenna)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:56:42 -0300
Subject: [geomoose-psc] Matrix room setup (and bridge to IRC room)
In-Reply-To: <6f77dd36-f3bd-4e27-9a34-0bd1aca47b16@gatewaygeomatics.com>
References: <f04daffc-e9a5-43a5-a26a-57da7e617ce4@gatewaygeomatics.com>
 <PH0PR09MB863555A8F100FD8BF8D33B95CAAC2@PH0PR09MB8635.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
 <6f77dd36-f3bd-4e27-9a34-0bd1aca47b16@gatewaygeomatics.com>
Message-ID: <fd716705-b24a-4b5d-9420-22feb1eca074@gatewaygeomatics.com>

Correction: it seems to depend on the Matrix app that you choose (the 
app "Element" has voice, video, etc.)  I think a lot of these apps use 
Jitsi in the backend.



-jeff



On 2024-07-18 6:13 p.m., Jeff McKenna via geomoose-psc wrote:
> Matrix is a text-based chat system, similar to IRC, but with more 
> support/apps (on your phone or desktop, install a client like "Element", 
> and you'll see what I mean, it no longer feels like old IRC).
> 
> If this adds confusion, we can ignore it (cost was free anyway ha).? The 
> GeoMoose rooms on IRC and Matrix are linked now anyway, so conversation 
> is seamless - choose either method you wish.
> 
> Yes am aware that the log link bounces to a broken link, not sure why 
> yet...anyway until today we had no logs, so, I didn't think this was a 
> show-stopper.
> 
> 
> -jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On 2024-07-18 5:35 p.m., Eli Adam wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> What is the purpose of matrix?? Is this to support a visual demo?
>>
>> The log link doesn't seem to work for me.
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:*?geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf 
>> of Jeff McKenna via geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
>> *Sent:*?Thursday, July 18, 2024 7:08 AM
>> *To:*?GeoMOOSE PSC <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
>> *Subject:*?[geomoose-psc] Matrix room setup (and bridge to IRC room)
>> Hi PSC,
>>
>> I created a new "GeoMoose" room on Matrix, and with the help of @strk we
>> created a bridge to our old #geomoose IRC room - this means that devs
>> can connect with the many matrix clients (see long list at
>> https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/ 
>> <https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/>?) and chat seamlessly with those
>> on IRC, in the same room.
>>
>> Here are the connection details:
>>
>> Matrix
>> ??? Server:
>> ????? matrix.osgeo.org
>> ??? Channel:
>> ????? #geomoose:osgeo.org
>>
>> IRC
>> ??? Server:
>> ????? irc.libera.chat
>> ??? Channel:
>> ????? #geomoose
>>
>> For our PSC meetings, this means that devs can connect from many
>> platforms, and we also get the benefit of logs (
>> https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23geomoose:osgeo.org 
>> <https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23geomoose:osgeo.org>?)
>>
>> -jeff
>>

From tchaddad at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 15:46:20 2024
From: tchaddad at gmail.com (TC Haddad)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:46:20 -0700
Subject: [geomoose-psc] REMINDER: PSC Meeting Friday, July 19th, 2024
Message-ID: <CAFVrPyj0fqWtQNjOrdXLr8Q4Yd7HC7_tVkC+t4F8NLG5g5s+mA@mail.gmail.com>

Happy July GeoMoose PSC-ers, hope the summer is treating you well.

We have a PSC meeting TOMORROW Friday, July 19th:
3:00PM Atlantic / 2:00PM Eastern / 1:00PM Central / Noon Mountain / 11:00AM
Pacific

Preliminary Agenda topics:
* Sprint follow-up
* GM4 discussion
* Matrix option discussion

Add items to the Agenda here:
https://github.com/geomoose/geomoose/wiki/PSC-Meeting-2024-07-19

Last meeting?s notes are here:
https://github.com/geomoose/geomoose/wiki/PSC-Meeting-2024-06-21

Minutes from all prior meetings can be found here:
https://github.com/geomoose/geomoose/wiki/PSC-Meetings

As with last month, we'll meet on Liberachat here:
https://web.libera.chat/?channels=#geomoose

The adventurous can try connecting via the new Matrix option at
matrix.osgeo.org on Matrix Channel #geomoose:osgeo.org

Feel free to add agenda items, and see you all virtually tomorrow!

best,
Tanya
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From jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com  Fri Jul 19 04:04:47 2024
From: jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com (Jeff McKenna)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 08:04:47 -0300
Subject: [geomoose-psc] Matrix room setup (and bridge to IRC room)
In-Reply-To: <fd716705-b24a-4b5d-9420-22feb1eca074@gatewaygeomatics.com>
References: <f04daffc-e9a5-43a5-a26a-57da7e617ce4@gatewaygeomatics.com>
 <PH0PR09MB863555A8F100FD8BF8D33B95CAAC2@PH0PR09MB8635.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
 <6f77dd36-f3bd-4e27-9a34-0bd1aca47b16@gatewaygeomatics.com>
 <fd716705-b24a-4b5d-9420-22feb1eca074@gatewaygeomatics.com>
Message-ID: <ee3dd518-84a9-4e15-9555-f19ba2d91c75@gatewaygeomatics.com>

Update: it seems because I created the room yesterday, the log setup was 
delayed, as the logs work nicely now (meaning: our IRC meetings will 
also have a log)  see https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23geomoose:osgeo.org

-jeff




On 2024-07-18 6:56 p.m., Jeff McKenna via geomoose-psc wrote:
> Correction: it seems to depend on the Matrix app that you choose (the 
> app "Element" has voice, video, etc.)? I think a lot of these apps use 
> Jitsi in the backend.
> 
> 
> 
> -jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On 2024-07-18 6:13 p.m., Jeff McKenna via geomoose-psc wrote:
>> Matrix is a text-based chat system, similar to IRC, but with more 
>> support/apps (on your phone or desktop, install a client like 
>> "Element", and you'll see what I mean, it no longer feels like old IRC).
>>
>> If this adds confusion, we can ignore it (cost was free anyway ha).  
>> The GeoMoose rooms on IRC and Matrix are linked now anyway, so 
>> conversation is seamless - choose either method you wish.
>>
>> Yes am aware that the log link bounces to a broken link, not sure why 
>> yet...anyway until today we had no logs, so, I didn't think this was a 
>> show-stopper.
>>
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2024-07-18 5:35 p.m., Eli Adam wrote:
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> What is the purpose of matrix?? Is this to support a visual demo?
>>>
>>> The log link doesn't seem to work for me.
>>>
>>> Best regards, Eli
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:*?geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf 
>>> of Jeff McKenna via geomoose-psc <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> *Sent:*?Thursday, July 18, 2024 7:08 AM
>>> *To:*?GeoMOOSE PSC <geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> *Subject:*?[geomoose-psc] Matrix room setup (and bridge to IRC room)
>>> Hi PSC,
>>>
>>> I created a new "GeoMoose" room on Matrix, and with the help of @strk we
>>> created a bridge to our old #geomoose IRC room - this means that devs
>>> can connect with the many matrix clients (see long list at
>>> https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/ 
>>> <https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/>?) and chat seamlessly with those
>>> on IRC, in the same room.
>>>
>>> Here are the connection details:
>>>
>>> Matrix
>>> ??? Server:
>>> ????? matrix.osgeo.org
>>> ??? Channel:
>>> ????? #geomoose:osgeo.org
>>>
>>> IRC
>>> ??? Server:
>>> ????? irc.libera.chat
>>> ??? Channel:
>>> ????? #geomoose
>>>
>>> For our PSC meetings, this means that devs can connect from many
>>> platforms, and we also get the benefit of logs (
>>> https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23geomoose:osgeo.org 
>>> <https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23geomoose:osgeo.org>?)
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
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-- 
Jeff McKenna
GatewayGeo: Developers of MS4W, & offering MapServer Consulting/Dev
co-founder of FOSS4G
http://gatewaygeo.com/