[Geomoose-users] GeoMoose organization

Wed Mar 2 13:49:12 EST 2011

Hi Christopher,

I'm happy to hear you like our version of Geomoose! We can set up an
Intergovernmental Agreement with you so that we can send our data to you
to get the website started. Dean's directions below explain the steps
pretty clearly. Please contact me if you would like to move forward with
the agreement, since it takes about 2 weeks to get signatures and set up
usually.

Thanks,

Krysta Houseknecht
GIS Coordinator 
Central Services - IS Division
800 Exchange
Suite 300 
Astoria, OR 97103
503-325-8662 ext: 1131

>>> "DEAN ANDERSON" <ANDERSON.DEAN at co.polk.or.us> 3/2/2011 7:13 AM >>>
Christopher 

I will check with Krysta on how to make this work.  It is using shape
files (Crook County's is PostGIS).  The easiest way to make this happen
using Clatop's site as a starting point (if that meets your needs) is to
do the following...

1. Set up the GeoMOOSE demo site on IIS or Apache and make sure it
works.  Apache is simpler. 
2. Sign a data license with Clatsop to temporarily use their data
(Check with Krysta to see if this can happen. She has been out with the
flue for the last couple of days). 
3. We will create a zip file of their site with data (no photos) and
place it on the FTP site. 
4. You install Clatsop on your site (This will ensure you have a
working copy). 
5. Become familiar with MapServer map files so you can start setting up
the cartography. 
6. Read my notes that I used to customize Clatsop's site from what
Houston setup for the Oregon Consortium. 
7. Give Houston, Kyrsta or me a call for help. 

The buffer function is working fine for buffering around an individual
parcel/taxlot or around a group.  For any further customization you may
want to contact Houston Engineering as they have done the Lion's share
of customization for the Oregon Consortium.

Let me know if this works for you. 

Dean Anderson 
IT Director 
Polk County 

PS. The reason I responded is that I worked with Krysta set the Clatsop
sight up. 

>>> Brian Fischer <bfischer at houstoneng.com> 3/2/2011 6:50 AM >>>

Hi Christopher,
You might want to check out http://crook.houstoneng.net, I still got
some more work to do on this, but it has some new user interface things
we did for them. For example check out the “Show/Hide Tabs” option in
the button right.  This site is also completely working off of PostGIS. 
I’ll look through your requirements as well and see if we have any other
client’s applications that demonstrate the functionality.  We have
probably done over 30 internal client applications with a wide variety
of customizations as well.  Everything from online feature editing to
remote mobile uploading.

Brian Fischer,CFM  GIS Manager
Houston Engineering, Inc.
Phone: Direct: 763-493-6664 / W: 763.493.4522 / M: 763.229.2734

From:Kroot, Christopher [mailto:Christopher.Kroot at maine.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 6:04 PM
To: Bob Basques; DEAN ANDERSON
Cc: geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Geomoose-users] GeoMoose organization

Hello Bob and Dean

We have decided to move forward with GeoMoose.  I have attached 4
documents we discussed via email, one is a spreadsheet listing the
overall functionality required ( This is still a work in progress).  The
three ms word documents are requirements for 3 of the projects we are
working on. We expect to begin our work within the next week.  The tool
that I have not been able to find is for drawing a buffer, or creating a
buffer automatically and then having a selected set of the features that
are within or intersect the buffer written to a table/array for use in
display and reporting, and to be able to do multiple selections adding
to the previously selected set.

Is it possible to get the GeoMoose implementation code and associated
documentation that is being used in Clatsop county Oregon?  Do you think
this is the best implementation to start from? This is the base we would
like to start from.  It is one of the best web apps we have found.

We are excited to learn more about the GeoMoose product and are
grateful for all the work you and others have done to date.  I hope that
we are able to contribute to the effort in a meaningful way.

Have a good day

Christopher Kroot
Enterprise GIS Analyst
Maine Office of GIS
SHS 174
264 Civic Center Drive
Augusta ME 04333-0174
christopher.kroot at maine.gov
207-592-0162

From:Bob Basques [mailto:Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us] 
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:00 PM
To: DEAN ANDERSON; geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net; Kroot,
Christopher
Subject: Re: [Geomoose-users] GeoMoose organization
Dean,

Oh, you meant "the" wiki.  I haven't put much time into it either
myself.

I see the community portal link from the main page any everything.  
Good seeing this kind of thing posted to the working site too.

Qusetion, is there a way to mark which are completed and which are
still open for enhancements that a re listed?   Does this make more
sense to add into TRAC in the future.

bobb

>>> "DEAN ANDERSON" <ANDERSON.DEAN at co.polk.or.us> wrote:

Bob

After the WIKI was setup  we put our project stuff on the GeoMoose Wiki
Community Portal.  We elected not to separate ourselves from the
GeoMoose site and have a  separate effort and/or site as we want our
efforts to mesh with the rest of the GeoMoose users as much as possible.

http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Oregon_County_Consortium

The WIKI contains that last two projects and outlines planned projects
for this spring/summer.  We use the WIKI to collect input, document
requirements, and help prioritize projects. This information is then
used to work with Houston to develop a project spec.  As part of the
last project spec  Houston will post enhancements, etc.. on the WIKI so
our members have an easy way to download enhancements and others can see
them. My hope is that other groups will take advantage of the community
portal and put their project info there.

Our group is pretty loose and informal.  We get together about every 6+
weeks to...

1. Review web sites and interfaces and help each other to support our
common Oregon customers (the public).
2. Share results from existing projects.
3. Share tips and tricks.
4. Identify and prioritize projects for future development.
5. Get web based training when we need it.
6. Share funds in getting projects done.

We will have a couple of more members go live in the coming month or
so.  My hope is that they will post a link to their site on the gallery
page.  Also, now that we can post documents to the WIKI we will put some
of our historical information there so I don't have to e-mail it out. It
is a cool process. I wish I had more time to spend on it but as an IT
guy I have other commitments.

I will be submitting a paper to FOSS4G to describe our implementation
process including use cases.  We will also have a session to discuss
this at the GIS-In-Action conference in Portland Oregon next month. 

Dean

>>> "Bob Basques"  02/25/11 9:14 AM >>>
Dean, 

I think having a permanent or semi-permanent support structure in place
will only help and improve the implementors experience which should
translate to a better end user experience.   This has been an identified
need for quite a while within the group here.  No lack of support for
setting up a more formalized support structure, it's just been more fun
to develop.   The trick is putting it together in a way that doesn't
impede the development process, while still providing the resources
needed for the process.  I think a sheperding approach would be the
least invasive to the process.  It can also accommodate representatives
from different interested parties to decide priorities as well  future
capabilities and options for improvements. 

Your idea of a test project is a very good one.   This could be used to
shake out the bugs, so to speak, related to getting a group of
interested folks together and defining how support structure might be
set up to greatest effect.  This would be a very good presentational
piece for Denver as well, even if the project couldn't be completed
before then.  Just relating the process I think would be of interest to
others in the community. 

Do you have a direct link to the consortium website? 

bobb 

>>> "DEAN ANDERSON" <ANDERSON.DEAN at co.polk.or.us> wrote:

Bob

It appears you are going to be at FOSSG,  perhaps that would be a good
place to talk about this some evening.  The Oregon Consortium would like
to help in this process along and we do have a limited amount of funds
to contribute. We  identified some of the same issues as a priority for
us at our last Oregon consortium meeting.  If folks would like to do
this sooner perhaps we could arrange something.    Perhaps we could do a
 project this summer and then review the results as a group this
September. Our project lists are documented on the Wiki in the community
pages section.

We have made great progress to date in Oregon with GeoMoose to date and
would like to see the program continue to mature.

Dean Anderson
IT Director
Polk County

>>> "Bob Basques"  02/25/11 8:04 AM >>>

Christopher, 

There are a few commercial and non-profit vendors available now that
have done quite a bit of work in the setup, development and research
related to GeoMoose and it's continued development, and this type of
support has progressed the project very nicely to date.  Having said
that I'm also aware of the need to setup some dedicated support
functions along the lines of bug fixes, continued development and
research into additional capabilities as well as integration with other
Opensource as well as proprietary GIS services and systems.  These
GeoMoose savvy groups also have some additional ideas and capabilities
already in the hopper related to improvements.   They are also very
interested in hearing from people and groups such as yourself with
respect to desired capabilities of the package.   I would be interested
in your specification (or capabilities) wish list for example,
regardless, purely for planning purposes. 

My thoughts in recent months have been in setting up some sort of
shepherding arrangement with the core developer group, that can handle a
supporting roll in the GeoMoose development process.   Such entities
already exist, either as commercial and/or non-profits, and are
interested in this type of work arrangement.  To date there hasn't been
a single large enough project or group of smaller projects with similar
enough interests to successfully sponsor the type of support structure
you are describing. 

I'm prepared to attempt the arrangement of such a framework with the
core development group once a seeding sponsor or sponsors (such as
yourself) have been identified as being interested in pursuing such an
arrangement. 

Please pass on your desired needs list and if you are interested in
discussing further, we can keep this thread going or go offline as well.

Thanks 

bobb 

Bob Basques 
GIS Systems Developer 
City of Saint Paul, MN. 
612.598.9210 

http://gis.ci.stpaul.mn.us 

>>> "Kroot, Christopher" <Christopher.Kroot at maine.gov> wrote:

Hello all 
My name is Christopher Kroot and I am the enterprise GIS analyst for
the State of Maine Office of GIS. We are currently using mapserver to
create WMS for imagery.  We have developed a simple front end
application built with java script and php with mapserver as the
backend.  We have determine that others have progressed much further
down this road then we have and are looking at selecting a code base for
our current and future development. 
We are considering using GeoMoose as the code base for our enterprise
web mapping applications that have a mapserver backend.  Currently we
have 5 stakeholder groups who have provided us with the functionally
requirements for their web mapping needs.  My review of the Clatsop
County Web Maps http://maps.co.clatsop.or.us/applications/index.html# 
is promising, as it contains most of the base functionality required. 
We will be investing a significant amount of resource in the coming
years into the environment we choose and want to select the best one to
start with. 
What is the organizational structure for GeoMoose?  Are their funded
positions for maintenance and future development?  
We are using the ESRI ArcServer environment for web mapping that
requires complex spatial analysis, geoprocessing, other more complex
functional requirements. 
Thank you for your assistance and have a good day 
Christopher Kroot
Enterprise GIS Analyst
Maine Office of GIS
SHS 174
264 Civic Center Drive
Augusta ME 04333-0174
christopher.kroot at maine.gov
207-592-0162 

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