[Geomoose-users] Who here is still supporting IE7?

Fri May 3 09:31:54 PDT 2013

I’m not aware of any users we have running any versions of IE7 or earlier.

Brian Fischer
Principal | GIS Project Manager
Houston Engineering, Inc.
O 763.493.4522 | D 763.493.6664 | F 763.493.5572

From: geomoose-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:geomoose-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Dan Little
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM
To: James Klassen; Bistrais, Bob
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Subject: Re: [Geomoose-users] Who here is still supporting IE7?

Oh, Dojo has made life so. much. easier.  That said, IE8 is semi-modern, IE9-10 are thoroughly modern.  The aggravation with 10 is that it *is* standards compliant.  Therefore, old-standard sniffing breaks stuff, hence the IE10 incompatibilities.

I think the numbers are in favor of dropping neanderthal IE versions.  I'd like the folks on the West Cost have a chance to wake up and respond but setting a definitive "tone."

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To: "Bistrais, Bob" <Bob.Bistrais at maine.gov<mailto:Bob.Bistrais at maine.gov>>
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{Rant: "Second that.  I remember historically that fixing and working around IE quirks took about 75% of development/debug time.  It has been better lately with Dojo and newer IE versions, but it is still occasionally annoying."}
On May 3, 2013 8:34 AM, "Bistrais, Bob" <Bob.Bistrais at maine.gov<mailto:Bob.Bistrais at maine.gov>> wrote:
I agree with Mark.  I’ve come up against this issue in the past.  We’ve had customers who were still using old versions of IE in order to support another application of some sort (non-GeoMoose).  We found in that case, the solution was to let them keep their old version of IE, but recommend installing another browser (FF, Chrome) and use that with our GeoMoose applications.  That seems to work fine.

(Rant alert…) If it were up to me, I’d say we shouldn’t support IE at all, because it’s by far the most troublesome of the major browsers.
Unfortunately, it’s not up to me.

From: geomoose-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:geomoose-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> [mailto:geomoose-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:geomoose-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of Mark Volz
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:25 AM
To: Dan Little; GeoMOOSE Users List
Subject: Re: [Geomoose-users] Who here is still supporting IE7?

Dan,

In my opinion everyone that uses IE should be on IE 8 or above.  I don’t think that you and the other developers should waste a lot of time dealing with quirks from old browsers.  But for those that are still running an old version of IE, perhaps GeoMOOSE could display a pop up window that invites users to upgrade IE, or redirect them to an older version of GeoMOOSE that does support IE 6-7.

Mark

From: geomoose-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:geomoose-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> [mailto:geomoose-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Dan Little
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 7:50 AM
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Subject: [Geomoose-users] Who here is still supporting IE7?

FOSS4G/NA will allow for us to do some direction planning and legacy browser support is a subject upon which I intend to tackle this year.  Legacy support with IE is causing us problems with IE10. Some of the feature-sniffing code in IE10 makes things *very* difficult and newer versions of our base libraries that support IE10 tend to break IE6/7/FF<3.6.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version_partially_combined-US-monthly-201302-201304-bar

If you value GeoMOOSE simply BECAUSE of IE6/7 support then we'll need to hear from you.  Another motivating factor: I cannot seem to *buy* a version of Windows that will run IE7 anymore.  My only functioning windows install is Win7 and I believe I've got it upgraded to IE10 at this point, for testing purposes.  I'm going to try and setup a down-grade VM for IE9 testing along with some automation.

Thanks all for any feedback.

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