<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Giovanni,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">thanks a lot for sharing your insights! For a relaunch of a content heavy</div><div class="">geonode I´ve had a look at Rancher as setup as well. The two reasons</div><div class="">I’ ve decided against it are:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The ability to scale on different hosts is nice, but can get quite expensive</div><div class="">as well. (Among others we host at AWS which looks cheap only at first glance). </div><div class="">So after a stress test of a standard docker setup runing on EC2 large with Jmeter</div><div class="">I´ve decided that this should much do it for the project needs.. So what I´m trying to</div><div class="">say is that one has to consider if the ablity of cloud scaling pays off compared </div><div class="">to the costs.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The second reason is, if I´m not really in the need of cloud scaling, and using maybe</div><div class="">only one Rancher host, the GUI does not provide a „killer feature“ that would convince me</div><div class="">using it. To get an overview what is happening docker stats is fine for me.</div><div class="">If one really needs a GUI showing metrics a separate container running monit, scout, </div><div class="">prometheus or some other framework can be a solid alternative. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Last but not least. You guys did a great rework of geonode-project and it´s installation. </div><div class="">Again if I´m not in the need of cloud scaling 'docker-compose up' is now much</div><div class="">faster than setting up Rancher and geonode by use of a catalog. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just my two cents. I´m looking forward hearing of other experinces.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Toni</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 22.08.2018 um 21:00 schrieb <a href="mailto:geonode-devel-request@lists.osgeo.org" class="">geonode-devel-request@lists.osgeo.org</a>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Send geonode-devel mailing list submissions to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:geonode-devel@lists.osgeo.org" class="">geonode-devel@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geonode-devel<br class="">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>geonode-devel-request@lists.osgeo.org<br class=""><br class="">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>geonode-devel-owner@lists.osgeo.org<br class=""><br class="">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">than "Re: Contents of geonode-devel digest..."<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class=""> 1. From GeoNode to Rancher... and back (G. Allegri)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:58:18 +0200<br class="">From: "G. Allegri" <giovanni.allegri@geo-solutions.it><br class="">To: geonode-devel <geonode-devel@lists.osgeo.org><br class="">Subject: [GeoNode-devel] From GeoNode to Rancher... and back<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CAB4g1=wjK=mK1KEkzEGw7CXL07jikzRqQoQGHKWm4XK8PgfPEw@mail.gmail.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Hello everyone,<br class=""><br class="">since some months we (GeoSolutions) have spent an amount of time analysing,<br class="">developing and experimenting with GeoNode, Docker and Rancher (1.6). The<br class="">purpose, that we know also others from the community share, was to test<br class="">GeoNode within a "cloud oriented" context, supporting services<br class="">orchestration for the GeoNode stack, aimed to simplify deployment,<br class="">horizontal scaling, updating, etc.<br class=""><br class="">Rancher seemed the right way to go, because it supports Docker and Docker<br class="">compose, has lots of batteries included and it provides a straightforward<br class="">management through its nice web console.<br class="">After some months with it Rancher 2 was about to be released. As you may<br class="">know it's deeply different from the 1.x. Although a (not complete) layer of<br class="">compatibility is provided, reality is that their "Cattle" orchestrator has<br class="">been substituted for Kubernetes, which has become an industry standard and,<br class="">probably, the most widespread solution for cloud services orchestration.<br class=""><br class="">Kubernetes seems a bit oversized for our purposes and for the typical<br class="">deployment scenarios for GeoNode. It requires a significative investment of<br class="">resources to learn it, set it up and manage / mantain it. Rancher 2<br class="">simplifies some aspects, but it won't preserve you from knowing and<br class="">tweeking the underlying engine and services (networking, schedulers, etc.).<br class="">On the opposite side, simpler approaches often lead to tailored made<br class="">solutions, integrating different pieces together (for management,<br class="">networking, service discovery, config, scheduling, health checks, load<br class="">balancing, etc.). It can be easier at the beginning but it risks to become<br class="">a nightmare and even more expensive then investing on a solution like<br class="">Kubernetes.<br class=""><br class="">Long story short, we would like to confront with those of you that share<br class="">similar goals, to know your opinions and experience on that.<br class="">It would be great if a shared approach could be found. Sharing to grow<br class="">everyone, together ;)<br class=""><br class="">All the best,<br class="">Giovanni<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Giovanni Allegri<br class="">GeoSolutions S.A.S.<br class="">Via di Montramito 3/A<br class=""><https://maps.google.com/?q=Via+di+Montramito+3/A%0D+55054+%C2%A0Massarosa&entry=gmail&source=g><br class="">55054 Massarosa<br class=""><https://maps.google.com/?q=Via+di+Montramito+3/A%0D+55054+%C2%A0Massarosa&entry=gmail&source=g><br class=""> (LU)<br class="">Italy<br class="">phone: +39 0584 962313 <+39%200584%20962313><br class="">fax: +39 0584 1660272 <+39%200584%20166%200272><br class=""><br class="">http://www.geo-solutions.it<br class="">http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it<br class=""><br class="">-------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. 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