[GRASS-dev] [bug #4493] (grass) gis.m fails to start GUI

Michael Barton michael.barton at asu.edu
Wed May 24 15:42:57 EDT 2006


The NVIZ 8.3/8.4 issue has been with us for a long time and has been
repeatedly problematic. IMHO, this should be considered a bug and would seem
the best bet to simply fix it (though I have no idea what this involves of
course). Bug fixes for 6.2 seems to be the ideal time to do so. I'm not
trying to be a problem, but the thought of trying to figure out what is and
is not backward compatible with 8.3--and then trying to find a way to fix it
is not something I'd look forward to. It also is problematic for any new
stuff we do. I'd need to find some 8.3 docs and check all widgets and
options since I don't actually have a system to run it agains 8.3 and see if
it bombs. If -offrelief is the ONLY issue, I can go back and change all the
buttons I suppose. But this seems like the wrong approach to dealing with
bugs in NVIZ.

Michael
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Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics and Complexity
Arizona State University

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> From: David Finlayson <david.p.finlayson at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:33:26 -0700
> To: Michael Barton <michael.barton at asu.edu>
> Cc: Hamish <hamish_nospam at yahoo.com>, Paolo Cavallini via RT
> <grass-bugs at intevation.de>, <grass-dev at grass.itc.it>
> Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] [bug #4493] (grass) gis.m fails to start GUI
> 
> I was going to suggest we build against both on Debuan/Ubuntu, but I
> just noticed that tk8.3 is incompatible with tk8.4 on Ubuntu systems
> (selecting one in Synaptic removes the other)
> 
> David
> 
> On 5/24/06, Michael Barton <michael.barton at asu.edu> wrote:
>> I think the options database is an 8.4 addition (Cedric can verify). I'm
>> using 8.4 docs so I don't know what else, but wouldn't be surprised if there
>> are some.
>> 
>> I think that Glynn is fixing (or maybe has fixed) NVIZ. Also, I have a grad
>> student who is using Debian (I can ask him the distro when he gets in) and
>> the current GIS Manager with no problem. ????
>> 
>> Michael
>> __________________________________________
>> Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
>> School of Human Evolution & Social Change
>> Center for Social Dynamics and Complexity
>> Arizona State University
>> 
>> phone: 480-965-6213
>> fax: 480-965-7671
>> www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Hamish <hamish_nospam at yahoo.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 07:15:18 +1200
>>> To: Michael Barton <michael.barton at asu.edu>
>>> Cc: <grass-bugs at intevation.de>, <grass-dev at grass.itc.it>
>>> Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] [bug #4493] (grass) gis.m fails to start GUI
>>> 
>>>> TclTk 8.4.01 was released September 2002, when GRASS 4.something was
>>>> still current and GRASS 5 was in development. TclTk 8.5 is now in beta
>>>> and we are now talking about switching to a new GUI platform. TclTk is
>>>> open source and anyone can update to at least an old version of 8.4.
>>>> 
>>>> There are just not enough of us to maintain compatibility so far back
>>>> into prior versions, and it would affect both usability and appearance
>>>> of the GUI. We are maintaining the old d.m, which I believe is
>>>> compatible with 8.3 at least and maybe back to 8.1. The fixes to
>>>> maintain backward compatibility 4 years back are more than I have time
>>>> to do (especially to try and find workarounds for functionality from
>>>> 8.4 that we are using) and is very low on my priority list.
>>> 
>>> note NVIZ still doesn't work 100% with TclTk 8.4 on debian. This is
>>> because of bugs which should be fixed, but in the mean time we are left
>>> with a no-win compromise, either NVIZ working or gis.m working; not both.
>>> 
>>> what else besides "-offrelief" isn't tcltk 8.3 compatible in gis.m?
>>> If it is small work to support 8.3, we should try.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hamish
>> 
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> 
> -- 
> David Finlayson




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