[GRASS-dev] WinGRASS needs TclTk 8.4

[Michael Barton]

Thanks. This will be a help for debugging.

Michael
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On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Gerald Nelson wrote:

> If you run the batch file from a command window you should be able  
> to see
> keep the output (if you run the batch file by clicking on it, batch  
> opens
> one up, runs the script and then closes it when it's done  
> automatically,
> even if there are errors in the window). Or you can run grass63  
> from an msys
> shell window and see output there.
> Jerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:grass-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barton
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:20 AM
> To: Paul Kelly
> Cc: 'GRASS developers list'
> Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] WinGRASS needs TclTk 8.4
>
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2008, at 2:01 AM, Paul Kelly wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Michael Barton wrote:
>>
>>> Actually I tried that and it still didn't work, though maybe for
>>> other reasons.
>>
>> Can you say what the exact problem is - detailed description, exact
>> error message and so on? It seems people are trying to help but are
>> just guessing at what the solution is because the problem isn't
>> clear: "still didn't work" really isn't very helpful.
>
> Paul,
>
> Thought I described this much earlier in the thread. Sorry. I can't
> say what the error message is because GRASS starts to launch, the
> Windows terminal flashes and then all shuts down. If there is a
> message in the terminal, my eyes can't catch it in the 5-10ms that
> it's displayed. Switching back to TclTk 8.4 works...but I don't know
> why.
>
>>
>> A couple more guesses from me:
>> 1) gis.m not starting may be due to the name or path to the wish
>> executable. Have you tried setting the GRASS_WISH environment
>> variable to point to this? (either the full path to wish.exe or, if
>> the directory it's in is already in the path but it has a non-
>> standard name, then just that name, e.g. wish85.exe) In Windows you
>> can set environment variables by right-clicking on My Computer on
>> the Desktop and selecting Properties, then clicking on the Advanced
>> Tab followed by the Environment Variables button.
>
> There was the issue, mentioned by Jerry Nelson, that the ActiveStates
> TclTk binaries for 8.5 forget to create a symlink to wish8.5, etc.
> This can be fixed manually. However, even with that fixed, we were
> still getting the startup/shutdown behavior.
>
>>
>> 2) NVIZ links Tcl/Tk functions into an executable program and is
>> more complicated in its usage of Tcl/Tk than gis.m.  If you are
>> using GRASS binaries and they've been compiled against Tcl/Tk 8.4,
>> then it's quite likely there could be incompatibilities that mean
>> something won't work with Tcl/Tk 8.5. Perhaps the usual problem
>> that Markus suggested or something else. Perhaps re-compiling
>> WinGRASS against Tcl/Tk 8.5 would work here.
>
> Possibly the case. These are binaries and I assume that they are
> compiled against 8.4.
>
>>
>> Over Christmas, I compiled Tcl/Tk 8.5 myself on Windows and
>> compiled GRASS against that. Everything seemed to work well and
>> those binaries should be able to be included in a GRASS binary
>> distribution to reduce the likelihood of incompatiblities such as
>> Michael seems to be experiencing.
>
> This is absolutely the ideal. If we distributed the TclTk that GRASS
> is compiled against, we avoid almost all of the problems. This is the
> way that William Kyngesbury has done the binary creation and
> distribution system for the Mac version. Compile against some version
> of TclTk and then include the TclTk executables in $GISBASE/bin for
> the binary. By and large this is very reliable.
>
> Michael
>
> ____________________
> C. Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
> Director of Graduate Studies
> School of Human Evolution & Social Change
> Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
> Arizona State University
>
> Phone: 480-965-6262
> Fax: 480-965-7671
> www: <www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton>
>
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