[GRASS-dev] GRASS 6.4.3 release planning

Wed Nov 14 02:08:11 PST 2012

I'm sorry if I sounded too harsh, I just want to see some progress, as
it's not possible to hold back next release infinitely if nobody is
working on fixes for Mac. A Mac using developer, of course, would be
the best solution. If not, probably next GRASS release will be with
reduced functionality on Mac (read - some bugs will not get fixed).
Sorry. No developers == no fixes.

Maris.

2012/11/12 Michael Barton <Michael.Barton at asu.edu>:
> Maris,
>
> Volumes are broken on the Mac, not on Linux AFAIK. I don't know about Windows.
>
> While a lot of people USE GRASS on Macs, so far not many develop on it. Currently, William Kyngesburye and I are the only people doing this AFAIK, with Helena and Agustin Diaz doing systematic testing. There is a similar imbalance for Windows it seems. Maybe it is because more Linux users like to 'tinker' with their systems, while most Mac and Windows users just want to use the software. The classes that Helena and I teach help a lot in getting new testing done for Widows and Mac, but happen only periodically. Currently, for example, GRASS 7 for windows does not work for any of my students. But in mid-semester I'm up to my eyeballs in classes, proposals, admin responsibilities, etc. Helena is too. We need to get more Mac users (and Windows users too) to get involved with GRASS development. This is probably a better solution than chipping in for a new Mac in Italy, because Mac users will be more familiar with their systems. Anyway, enough whining.
>
> From what I can tell...
> Volumes work on 10.6 when compiled on 10.6
> Volumes do not work on any system when compiled on 10.8
> Volumes compiled on 10.6 do not work on 10.8 (I think, but this needs a little more testing)
>
> The apparent error has to do with memory. The initialization of volumes work fine. The crash comes with the display refresh when you try to adjust anything. The debug output that I posted to track shows that the crash happens after a memory pointer assignment. There is no such assignment statement called for the volume initialization. I don't know where that statement is located in the code and I currently don't have time right now to try to find it and track where it is called and what it calls. With some help on that front I (or Helena or someone else maybe) could try commenting it out or changing it and see what happens.
>
> Volume display seems to work fine for the TclTk version of NVIZ, even in 10.8 (testing in GRASS 6.4.2 only so far).
>
> That is the extent of what I know at the moment.
>
> I wish we had a many people developing and testing for the Mac as we do for Linux. But it takes time to develop that community. Releasing a stable version in which the entire volume functionality is not useable will not help in that regard. So we just have to keep plugging away with the resources we have.
>
> Cheers
> Michael
>
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> On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu>
>  wrote:
>
>> Maris, hold on - I was tied up with conferences and other things so I could not follow up with testing but
>> I will try the volumes this week on 10.8 - I have it at work so I don't have it as handy as 10.6 that I have at home,
>> and I need some extra time for testing on 10.8(is it possible that it is only Michael, William and myself who have Mac?)
>>
>> Also I have been getting complaints about r.mapcalc in the command console on MS Windows
>> - I was able to run it but I had to remove the quotes and I still don't know exactly what combination of
>> spaces/not-spaces, quotes/not-quotes works on MS Windows so the students have to run mapcalc from GUI.
>> (all combinations work on Mac)
>> Just yesterday there were some new troubles with r.thin and other commands in our flow routing
>> assignments that run in GUI but not in the Command console on windows.
>> (it is this - you can try to run it on MSWin in command console)
>> http://courses.ncsu.edu/mea582/common/GIS_anal_grass/GIS_Anal_grflow.html
>> Most of these troubles may be already fixed as this is GRASS6.4.3svn from september,
>> but I just would like to point out that there may be still problems.
>>
>> I normally try to test as soon as I hear about the problems, but I have MacOS10.6 at home where
>> I can test right away, it gets more complicated in terms of logistics if it is MS Windows or MacOS10.8
>> And lot of the reported problems are just user error so I don't want to submit a bug report
>> before confirming that there is a real problem.
>>
>> Helena
>>
>>
>>
>> Helena Mitasova
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Marine, Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences
>> 2800 Faucette Drive, Rm. 1125 Jordan Hall
>> North Carolina State University
>> Raleigh, NC 27695-8208
>> hmitaso at ncsu.edu
>>
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>>
>> On Nov 12, 2012, at 3:41 AM, Maris Nartiss wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, Michael, but I also couldn't reproduce this issue on my AMD64
>>> Gentoo Linux system. Also code paths leading to crash site seemed to
>>> be reasonable. Could it be a bug outside of GRASS (in ctypes?)?
>>>
>>> No help unless somebody donates a new Mac to Martin or some other
>>> WXGUI person for GRASS on Mac testing, as it's not possible to
>>> download a free MacOS image for running in a VM.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maris.
>>>
>>> 2012/11/12 Michael Barton <Michael.Barton at asu.edu>:
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 11, 2012, at 1:00 PM, grass-dev-request at lists.osgeo.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Helmut Kudrnovsky <hellik at web.de>
>>>> Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] GRASS 6.4.3 release planning
>>>> Date: November 10, 2012 4:22:01 PM MST
>>>> To: <grass-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> we may slowly consider 6.4.3RC2 to be prepared.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 for RC2. Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> maybe it's worth to have a look at:
>>>>
>>>> wingrass6.4.3svn: raster3d problems
>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1784
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> best regards
>>>> Helmut
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And volume display does not work at all for the most current 2 OS versions
>>>> for Mac (versions after OS X 10.6).
>>>>
>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1736
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> ____________________
>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
>>>> Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>
>>>> voice:  480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-727-9746 (CSDC)
>>>> fax:          480-965-7671 (SHESC),  480-727-0709 (CSDC)
>>>> www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu
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