[GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers
nik at nikosalexandris.net
Thu Jan 29 03:52:50 PST 2015
Vaclav Petras wrote:
>> To satisfy everybody, I suggest to provide a buttons with
>> something like "Take me to LL", "Take me to default
>> and "Take me to XY". What do you think about that?
>> But the real improvement should be the messages which would
>> guide you through the process.
Hi Vaclav, and all. Thanks for the continuous hard working.
>> So, here is screenshot and diff for new layout of the window
>> together the description what the things are useful for. The
>> descriptions can be easily changed, they are wrapped texts, so
>> will work well with translations. So, feel free to suggest
>> ones. We can also make them "gray" as suggested earlier.
>> I used GRASS Location and Location. I though that GRASS could
>> to emphasize that it is something GRASS-related and few people
>> using Location and Mapset with capital letter which could say
>> it is a something like files format or spatial database name. I
>> aimed to address the things I considered confusing. I'm not sure
>> about the GRASS GIS data directory as I mentioned earlier.
>> Now it is higher then the old one but with removal of the image
>> will be smaller. If a small-enough image is used, it could be
>> same. I would like to not include the image to have more space
>> the error messages (currently one line between GISDBASE and
>> boxes), so messages can be longer and perhaps some what to do
>> tips can be shown as well. The position of this text can/should
>> changed, now middle of the window (usually these are at the
>> or at the top). However, without image it might be actually a
>> I reorganized the buttons to manage the (list of) Locations and
>> (list of) Mapsets, so now it looks like any other lists, e.g. in
>> Simple Layer Manager or in Cartographic Composer. In future we
>> add buttons, for example unpack a zipped location or download
>> datasets in case of Locations and show existing maps button in
>> of Mapsets.
>> Done in r64345.
>> Now the change of minimal height is needed to actually make it work
>> small screens.
>> Please, read the previous message and commit message for a
>> and description.
Moritz Lennert wrote:
> Generally, I like what I see, but I also have to admit that
> personally, and apparently contrary to many others, I do not really
> see as much need to change much in the GRASS startup.
> I just have two reactions:
> "Location represents a project."
> I'm not sure I like this restriction to location=project.
> For my part
> I often use location=projection and mapset=project, but this depends.
If it is any worth, I use single directories for projects.- Then
Locations for projections and Mapsets to organise everything as I think
is necessary underneath/inside.
> I'm afraid that such a semantic limitation in the startup screen will
> strongly influence users to go into just one direction...
Yes, please be more cautious here.
Vaclav Petras wrote:
>> A "Skip" button can be added next to Start button, once implemented.
>> I think that XY location in /tmp/grassdata would be appropriate.
> I'm very strongly opposed to this idea. You can be sure that many
> people will abuse this horribly without knowing what they are doing.
> In my eyes, GRASS should continue to impose a choice of projection
> system before working with data.
I use an XY location for various quick-tests. It's in my generic
"grassdb" directory, along with the other "projects".
> If we want to give people the opportunity to test GRASS, I prefer the
> option of a button that downloads and unpacks a very light demo
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