[GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

[Veronica Andreo]

Hi all,

I am ok with not having the terminal when starting grass from an icon, but
as Steven, I'd like to have a button to still be able to open the terminal
from the GUI. For example, next to the icon for the simple Pyhton editor in
the menu bar.

In my case, I teach Grass from the terminal mostly and we use the gui to
display results and such. The workflow would then change to open a
terminal, call grass --text and then call the GUI with
g.gui... I think that might get even more confusing to students...

my 2 cents
Vero

Vero

El dom., 6 sept. 2020 a las 16:56, Steven Pawley (<dr.stevenpawley at gmail.com>)
escribió:

> Hi Vaclav,
>
> Thanks for this. My 2c is that the terminal should be made as optional
> because it can definitely be confusing and intimidating/off-putting for new
> users. Apologies if I’ve confused some of the options but here are my
> thoughts regarding the start-up options.
>
> Unfortunately (in terms of complexity) option 5 would my preference. I
> like what it inherits from option 4, in that “grass —text” would always
> start with a terminal and just “grass” will *always* opens the full desktop
> application/GUI.
>
> However, once in the GUI, ideally you would be able to launch a terminal
> session from a menu option, e.g. a bit like Rstudio or VScode. This is
> obviously how you want to launch an R or Jupyter session, and it was be
> unfortunate to have to exit GRASS and restart a session with a terminal
> just to do this. Also, what happens when the GRASS GUI crashes and you are
> not running a terminal? One of the aspects that I really like about GRASS
> is that even if any particular component of the application, like the GUI
> crashes, the session continues and modules/scripts keep on running, so
> everything is usually recoverable.
>
> If the implementation of option (5) is problematic, then I guess mixing
> the startup options by  “grass —gui —shell” to open both the GUI and a
> terminal (like currently) would be possible although it is a bit cumbersome for
> all of the people who routinely punch GRASS commands into the terminal etc.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 4. Make the shell start only in the text mode (grass --text) or with a new
> additional option (--shell), i.e., you get it, only when you actually ask
> for it. In other words, with --text, GRASS GIS would behave more like R or
> Octave, without that (with --gui), it would behave more like QGIS or any
> other GUI application. (This includes the no terminal from desktop
> launchers from option 2.)
>
>
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