[GRASS-dev] [release planning] Enable Zenodo before 7.8.6 and 8.0.0

Tue May 25 05:39:59 PDT 2021

Yes, this is the community I was talking about.
https://zenodo.org/communities/grass/<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Fcommunities%2Fgrass%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb186c470d9f343d27a9c08d91f195f64%7C6cef373021314901831055b3abf02c73%7C0%7C0%7C637575016109102974%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9ZN8fACHIawfjKbyvIwvCAgK5WtwzcShuAIO55c5j5A%3D&reserved=0>

Even if it has just one entry, the title is still GRASS GIS.
Maybe we could add a second one for the dev group / PSC. However, avoiding confusion by just having one real GRASS GIS community on Zenodo would be better also for user experience...

Pietro, any thought about the future of that Zenodo community?

Cheers
Stefan

From: Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus at gmail.com>
Sent: tirsdag 25. mai 2021 03:07
To: Stefan Blumentrath <Stefan.Blumentrath at nina.no>
Cc: Veronica Andreo <veroandreo at gmail.com>; Moritz Lennert <mlennert at club.worldonline.be>; grass-dev <grass-dev at lists.osgeo.org>; Peter Löwe <peter.loewe at gmx.de>; Zambelli Pietro <peter.zamb at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] Enable Zenodo before 7.8.6 and 8.0.0

Thanks everyone for the support.

I was able to identify some potential issues. Namely, the auto-generated metadata on Zenodo does not seem to be that great and that includes basic things like title and license. How an author list will look is hard to say without trying, but it is promised to be sensible. It seems that a lot of projects just solve this using a .zenodo.json configuration file which includes this info, e.g. a full author list.

Although these metadata issues are certainly visible, a DOI will be generated and usable by itself in any case. Additionally, metadata can be edited manually after the publishing/release. Finally, having .zenodo.json is doable (probably through CITATION.cff which would be good to have anyway). Thus, I don't see this as a blocker, just as something to resolve on the way.

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:27 PM Stefan Blumentrath <Stefan.Blumentrath at nina.no<mailto:Stefan.Blumentrath at nina.no>> wrote:

There is already a GRASS GIS community on Zenodo, managed by Pietro.

There are way more GRASS related records in zenodo than registered in that community. Wound probably be useful to register relevant entries in a GRASS community...

There seems to be exactly n-1 GRASS-related records not in the community (where n is all the GRASS-related records). Are we looking at the same one?

https://zenodo.org/communities/grass/<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Fcommunities%2Fgrass%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb186c470d9f343d27a9c08d91f195f64%7C6cef373021314901831055b3abf02c73%7C0%7C0%7C637575016109102974%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9ZN8fACHIawfjKbyvIwvCAgK5WtwzcShuAIO55c5j5A%3D&reserved=0>

Would it be an option to develop the community in that direction, Pietro? If others too think that's useful ...

Cheers
Stefan
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Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] Enable Zenodo before 7.8.6 and 8.0.0

+1 from my side too

El lun., 24 may. 2021 03:23, Moritz Lennert <mlennert at club.worldonline.be<mailto:mlennert at club.worldonline.be>> escribió:
Clear +1 from me.

Moritz
Le 24 mai 2021 03:08:06 GMT+01:00, Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus at gmail.com<mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>> a écrit :
Hi all,

Let's enable the Zenodo link before 7.8.6 and 8.0(.0?) releases to get DOIs and Zenodo records.

Solving the whole DOI linking and Zenodo archiving for the old versions may be complex [1], but enabling the link between GitHub and Zenodo is trivial (one click) and every newly created GitHub release (we do those) will be automatically registered and receive DOI.

Zenodo uses a system of DOI versions and a main DOI (Concept DOI). Whether it is an ideal system, that's a question, but it is currently the expected one since it is the same for everything on Zenodo. It is used automatically when using the GitHub-Zenodo integration.

It seems I have the permissions to enable it for GRASS GIS. The one who enables that becomes a maintainer of it. I'm fine with that, but I won't be uploading any older versions. The maintainer can be changed later by contacting Zenodo support [2].

Although there are things to figure out in terms of next steps, I don't see much risk in enabling it. There are no choices available in the setup or in terms of alternatives. DOI and some kind of registration are expected more and more.

Thoughts?

Vaclav

[1] https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GitHub-Zenodo_linkage<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgrasswiki.osgeo.org%2Fwiki%2FGitHub-Zenodo_linkage&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb186c470d9f343d27a9c08d91f195f64%7C6cef373021314901831055b3abf02c73%7C0%7C0%7C637575016109102974%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Yxsi4EcksypByvzSRMe7UrDDt50ZJOYQ3xqTugTCkjM%3D&reserved=0>
[2] https://github.com/zenodo/zenodo/issues/826<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fzenodo%2Fzenodo%2Fissues%2F826&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb186c470d9f343d27a9c08d91f195f64%7C6cef373021314901831055b3abf02c73%7C0%7C0%7C637575016109112968%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=VHfit0yUK1uMUALz6MJHHoLNhSqleYFbVguNqjVinxs%3D&reserved=0>
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