Ok mister! Learn how to use this here mailing list! Your sub request was sent to ever-dad-gom' person on this here grass list! (:-> Hey Bill/foam-man, Send your sub request to: grassu-request at amber.cecer.army.mil with the following in the subject line: subscribe <your name> e.g foam-ranger (:-> 'regards, rick p.s. I'll give you a call some evening.