[GRASSLIST:9321] Re: GRASS and ArcSDE

[David Finlayson]

Wow. That sounds really encouraging. I'll track down the message.

David

On 12/5/05, Dylan Beaudette <dylan.beaudette at gmail.com> wrote:
> David and others,
>
> Frank W. on the GDAL list has recently announced support for SDE in OGR!!
>
> It looks like real-world SDE support will be possible in GRASS via OGR. Not to
> sure how the raster support via GDAL is yet. Might be a good idea to lurk on
> the GDAL lists for a while...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dylan
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 30 November 2005 10:51 am, David Finlayson wrote:
> > On 11/30/05, David Finlayson <dfinlays at u.washington.edu> wrote:
> > > On 11/30/05, Māris Nartišs <maris.nartiss at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > ArcSDE only for clients look fast, on server side load is high ;)
> > > As I understand, ArcSDE is like PostGIS. It can have multiple backends
> > > (Oracle etc.), but MySQL/PostgreSQL are not supported.
> > >
> > > As ArcSDE follows OGC standarts, there should be no problem to connect
> > > with any app to it. I cant test it, as I have only raster data in my
> > > SDE.
> >
> > Unfortunately, raster data is what I use primarily and it doesn't look
> > like that is supported by any ISO standard yet (hence no FOSS
> > implementation is available).
> >
> > It sounds like it might be possible to get access to the vector data.
> > However. The standards page you linked to is an alphabet soup of
> > protocols and implementation specifications.
> >
> > This aspect of GIS is starting to get so complicated we need a
> > specialist just to implement the back-end. One department I work with
> > hired a full time Oracle tech $$$ for 2 years to get their GIS
> > infrastructure up and running. This is crazy overhead for a scientist
> > like me.
> >
> > > Fighting with monopoly isnt easy task. Some days a go I had discussion
> > > about new study programm for planing experts. Authors of this program
> > > where saying - its good what you can do with GRASS (pointing on my
> > > work), but we will by and teach only  ArcGIS. My reply, that we need
> > > to teach GIS and not usage of some app, was w/o any replys. Huh. They
> > > will have no money to by ArcGIS extensions, so brand new planing and
> > > GIS experts will have only basic knowledge how to use ArcView.
> >
> > I am going to a meeting this afternoon where I expect the same blank
> > stares. I am developing a course on hydrologic and chemical modelling
> > that is supposed to be cross platform. One of the chemical modelers
> > used a "visual" modeling environment for windows at the request of our
> > director. He now wants to set this environment up in our computer
> > labs. I told him that the license to use the "visual" modeling
> > environment is $1500 per chair and there is no way it will run on Macs
> > or Unix. He was shocked. Hadn't even thought about that.
> >
> > Now I get an email from him saying that he has talked to his
> > programmer and they have decided to port the code to C#. This code
> > needs to run (literally) thousands of iterations per time step. It
> > needs to run on Unix (where the hydro models are located) and it needs
> > to be fairly inexpensive for colleagues out of the country who don't
> > have our resources. And he picks C#...<bangs head on table>
> >
> > --
> > David Finlayson
> > Marine Geology & Geophysics
> > School of Oceanography
> > Box 357940
> > University of Washington
> > Seattle, WA  98195-7940
> > USA
> >
> > Office: Marine Sciences Building, Room 112
> > Phone: (206) 616-9407
> > Web: http://students.washington.edu/dfinlays
>
> --
> Dylan Beaudette
> Soils and Biogeochemistry Graduate Group
> University of California at Davis
> 530.754.7341
>


--
David Finlayson
Marine Geology & Geophysics
School of Oceanography
Box 357940
University of Washington
Seattle, WA  98195-7940
USA

Office: Marine Sciences Building, Room 112
Phone: (206) 616-9407
Web: http://students.washington.edu/dfinlays