[GRASS-web] GRASS i.segment

Sinter Guy Guy.Sinter at manna-irrigation.com
Tue May 11 06:40:21 PDT 2021


Hi,

Any response ?
Thanks,
Guy

From: Sinter Guy
Sent: יום ה 29 אפריל 2021 13:04
To: Vaclav Petras
Cc: grass-web at lists.osgeo.org; Beeri Ofer; Pelta Ran; Mor Eyal
Subject: RE: [GRASS-web] GRASS i.segment

Hi,

Our  runtime environment is AWS lambda and there are other Python packages which need to be installed with our code,
So we cannot use option number #1 below,

Regarding Option #2 im not sure this is what we thought of, as mentioned before I believe  that what we and others (based on my web search for solution)
are looking for is a way to execute I segment purely from python without an installation, I think this is what you meant in this option,
as we said we are willing to pay for such development which will contribute to the entire community ,
let me know if its possible,
Thanks,
Guy

From: Vaclav Petras [mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com]
Sent: יום ה 29 אפריל 2021 04:00
To: Sinter Guy
Cc: grass-web at lists.osgeo.org; Beeri Ofer; Pelta Ran; Mor Eyal
Subject: Re: [GRASS-web] GRASS i.segment


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To add to what Moritz said, it sounds like the separate installation is the main issue you have. There is one existing solution and one which needs to be implemented.

1) Installing GRASS GIS is not that big of a deal on many platforms, e.g., on Linux machines or in a Linux Docker container. The difference is installing a system package versus a Python package. That works well for many because GRASS GIS installation is considered small by most people. Sure there are dependencies, some things you don't need, etc., but when one is using Python and is not on an embedded system, it is fine.

2) Your installation trouble might not exist if GRASS GIS is installable alongside other Python packages with pip or conda. That's not possible right now, but not impossible. A conda environment is used to build GRASS GIS for macOS and there was a prototype conda package, too. Since I tested these myself, I can say that's definitely some time/money investment - but a good one.

Let us know what you think.

Best,
Vaclav

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:36 AM Sinter Guy <Guy.Sinter at manna-irrigation.com<mailto:Guy.Sinter at manna-irrigation.com>> wrote:
Hi Vaclav,

Thank you for replying ,
We are looking for a standalone python package of the i.segment that could run as part of independent code without the need for the GRAA installation,
Is this something that is on your road map ?
Is this a feature we can support by paying for  ?

Thanks,
Guy

From: Vaclav Petras [mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com<mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>]
Sent: יום ד 28 אפריל 2021 04:20
To: Sinter Guy
Cc: grass-web at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:grass-web at lists.osgeo.org>; Beeri Ofer; Pelta Ran
Subject: Re: [GRASS-web] GRASS i.segment


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Hi Guy,

I don't know if you got a private answer, but the general answer from the GRASS project is that we are interested in making the algorithms as available as possible as long as they access the canonical implementation in GRASS GIS.

In other words, if you aim at a better interface in Python to i.segment, that is something which aligns well with the goals of the GRASS project. The current Python interface is fine, but not the best imaginable. Same goes for installation of GRASS GIS. It is fine, but there could be, for example, more options. So, it depends what routes you are willing to take.

Please note that I'm a Project Steering Committee member and while trying to represent the project here as best as I can, I'm ultimately speaking from my point of view.

In any case, thank you for bringing this idea and offer to the community.

Best,
Vaclav


On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 7:59 AM Sinter Guy <Guy.Sinter at manna-irrigation.com<mailto:Guy.Sinter at manna-irrigation.com>> wrote:
Hi Grass GIS team

My name is Guy and I’m from Manna Irrigation we provide farmers with irrigation recommendation and fields images,
We are working on an algorithm to identify  point of interest within field and for that our remote sensing team have used  your i.segment as part of their algorithm,
We would like to ask if you are planning to develop the i.segment package as a standalone python package without the need for Grass GIS installation ?
If so can you share the details ? we are also willing to pay for such development,

Thanks Much ,
Guy Sinter
Director, Software Engineering
+972 52 6433180 (Cell)
www.manna-irrigation.com<http://www.manna-irrigation.com/>
[manna]

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