[Ica-osgeo-labs] Urban Science - City Analytics - The Road Map Challenge
Chris Pettit
cpettit at unimelb.edu.au
Sun Mar 1 03:42:48 PST 2015
Colleagues,
The road map is shaping up nicely thanks to Patrick.
I have had a go at adding some preliminary research questions to this.
I look forward to presenting this at the Research Data Alliance 5th
Plenary in San Diego 9th of March. If anyone is going to this please let
me know.
Best wishes,
Chris
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> 1. Urban Science - City Analytics - The Road Map Challenge
> (Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX))
> 2. Re: Urban Science - City Analytics - The Road Map Challenge
> telemeeting on 9th March 2015 at at 11:30 - 13:00 PDT (San Diego)
> (Suchith Anand)
> 3. Re: Urban Science - City Analytics - The Road Map Challenge
> telemeeting on 9th March 2015 at at 11:30 - 13:00 PDT (San Diego)
> (Maria Antonia Brovelli)
> 4. Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the ?LAZ
> clone? by ESRI (Cameron Shorter)
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 23:10:51 +0000
>From: "Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)" <patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>
>To: "ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org" <ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>Cc: James Miller <miller at ittc.ku.edu>, Giuseppe Conti
> <Giuseppe.Conti at trilogis.it>, MELICK Brandt
> <bmelick at springfield-or.gov>, Gabor Remetey <gabor.remetey at gmail.com>,
> "Varun Chandola \(chandola at buffalo.edu\)" <chandola at buffalo.edu>
>Subject: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Urban Science - City Analytics - The Road
> Map Challenge
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>OSGEO USCA (Urban Science/CityAnalytics)
>[or CitySmart, myCitySmart, iCitySmart. . .UrbanNirvana?]
>
>I?ve edited our webpage,
>http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoForAll_UrbanScience_CityAnalytics
>
>First I went looking for links on who the heck we are. WoW! A mighty
>impressive group!
>
>Next did a little housekeeping on prospective Partners and the Resources
>links.
>
>Feel free to continue adding to and fixing this page.
>
>We?ve got to identify some key *Research Questions* and hammer away at
>the *Road Map.*
>
>At some point the Road Map will look entirely different from the bundled
>laundry list we have there now.
>
>The Road Map needs to become so organized and complete that it is a
>well-defined requirements document.
>
>Kind regards,
>-Patrick
> 650.604.5656 (office)
> 650.269.2788 (cell)
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>Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 01:12:04 +0000
>From: Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>To: "Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)" <patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>,
> "ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org" <ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>Cc: James Miller <miller at ittc.ku.edu>, "Varun Chandola
> \(chandola at buffalo.edu\)" <chandola at buffalo.edu>, MELICK Brandt
> <bmelick at springfield-or.gov>, Gabor Remetey <gabor.remetey at gmail.com>,
> Giuseppe Conti <Giuseppe.Conti at trilogis.it>
>Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Urban Science - City Analytics - The
> Road Map Challenge telemeeting on 9th March 2015 at at 11:30 - 13:00
> PDT (San Diego)
>Message-ID:
> <DF5C4FB2277FEC4C824FEDC89906CAA85046D6DA2A at EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk
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>Colleagues,
>
>Great to see all these ideas and momentum for the Urban Science thematic.
>Thank you everyone for contributing. It is also good that the main points
>are being updated in the wiki at
>http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoForAll_UrbanScience_CityAnalytics
>
>As i have now got confirmation on the tele meeting arrangements for the
>Geospatial and Big Data IG meeting at RDA 5 on 9th March 2015, may i
>suggest that we use the meeting opportunity at Research Data Alliance to
>discuss this further face to face or remotely (remote connection details
>below) . I think this is a perfect opportunity as it not only brings
>together the three communities (Urban Science, Geospatial and Big Data
>)in RDA but also now gives us good opportunity to expand our ideas on
>this theme for the future.
>
>Chris will be chairing the session. We will have a few short
>presentations but we can arrange at 30- 45 minutes for open discussions
>for the initial ideas for this Road Map Challenge.
>
>IG Geospatial & IG Big Data Analytics P5 Remote Connection
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>Thanks.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Suchith
>
>PS: We should be getting the dedicated maillist etc for this thematic
>hopefully this week. I willlet you know once i get info.
>
>________________________________________
>From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>[ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Hogan, Patrick
>(ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov]
>Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 11:10 PM
>To: ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>Cc: James Miller; Giuseppe Conti; MELICK Brandt; Gabor Remetey; Varun
>Chandola (chandola at buffalo.edu)
>Subject: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Urban Science - City Analytics - The Road Map
>Challenge
>
>OSGEO USCA (Urban Science/CityAnalytics)
>[or CitySmart, myCitySmart, iCitySmart. . .UrbanNirvana?]
>
>I?ve edited our webpage,
>http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoForAll_UrbanScience_CityAnalytics
>
>First I went looking for links on who the heck we are. WoW! A mighty
>impressive group!
>
>Next did a little housekeeping on prospective Partners and the Resources
>links.
>
>Feel free to continue adding to and fixing this page.
>
>We?ve got to identify some key *Research Questions* and hammer away at
>the *Road Map.*
>
>At some point the Road Map will look entirely different from the bundled
>laundry list we have there now.
>
>The Road Map needs to become so organized and complete that it is a
>well-defined requirements document.
>
>Kind regards,
>-Patrick
> 650.604.5656 (office)
> 650.269.2788 (cell)
>
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>Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 08:32:05 +0000
>From: Maria Antonia Brovelli <maria.brovelli at polimi.it>
>To: Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>, "Hogan, Patrick
> (ARC-PX)" <patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>, "ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org"
> <ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>Cc: James Miller <miller at ittc.ku.edu>, Giuseppe Conti
> <Giuseppe.Conti at trilogis.it>, MELICK Brandt
> <bmelick at springfield-or.gov>, Gabor Remetey <gabor.remetey at gmail.com>,
> "Varun Chandola \(chandola at buffalo.edu\)" <chandola at buffalo.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Urban Science - City Analytics - The
> Road Map Challenge telemeeting on 9th March 2015 at at 11:30 - 13:00
> PDT (San Diego)
>Message-ID: <1425198724825.82488 at polimi.it>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
>I will attend! Many thanks.
>Nice Sunday.
>Maria
>
>
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>Da: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
><ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> per conto di Suchith Anand
><Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>Inviato: domenica 1 marzo 2015 02.12
>A: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>Cc: James Miller; Varun Chandola (chandola at buffalo.edu); MELICK
>Brandt; Gabor Remetey; Giuseppe Conti
>Oggetto: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Urban Science - City Analytics - The Road
>Map Challenge telemeeting on 9th March 2015 at at 11:30 - 13:00 PDT (San
>Diego)
>
>Colleagues,
>
>Great to see all these ideas and momentum for the Urban Science thematic.
>Thank you everyone for contributing. It is also good that the main points
>are being updated in the wiki at
>http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoForAll_UrbanScience_CityAnalytics
>
>As i have now got confirmation on the tele meeting arrangements for the
>Geospatial and Big Data IG meeting at RDA 5 on 9th March 2015, may i
>suggest that we use the meeting opportunity at Research Data Alliance to
>discuss this further face to face or remotely (remote connection details
>below) . I think this is a perfect opportunity as it not only brings
>together the three communities (Urban Science, Geospatial and Big Data
>)in RDA but also now gives us good opportunity to expand our ideas on
>this theme for the future.
>
>Chris will be chairing the session. We will have a few short
>presentations but we can arrange at 30- 45 minutes for open discussions
>for the initial ideas for this Road Map Challenge.
>
>IG Geospatial & IG Big Data Analytics P5 Remote Connection
>Monday, March 9th 2015
>Please note that this is at 11:30 - 13:00 PDT (San Diego) corresponding
>to 19:30 - 21:00 CET and 18:30 - 20:00 UK (taking into account daylight
>saving time etc.)
>
> Please join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.
> https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/415667965
> You can also dial in using your phone.
> United States (Long distance): +1 (224) 501-3217
> Australia (Long distance): +61 2 8355 1024
> Access Code: 415-667-965
> More phone numbers:
>https://global.gotomeeting.com/415667965/numbersdisplay.html
>
>Country Long distance Toll-free
>Canada +1 (647) 497-9351 -
>France +33 (0) 182 880 459 -
>Sweden +46 (0) 853 527 836 -
>United Kingdom +44 (0) 330 221 0086 -
>Australia +61 2 8355 1024 -
>New Zealand +64 (0) 9 909 7888 -
>Netherlands +31 (0) 208 080 381 -
>United States +1 (224) 501-3217 -
>Denmark +45 (0) 69 91 88 64 -
>Austria +43 (0) 7 2088 1403 -
>Spain +34 931 81 6669 -
>Belgium +32 (0) 38 08 1856 -
>Germany +49 (0) 692 5736 7210 -
>Switzerland +41 (0) 435 0167 09 -
>Finland +358 (0) 942 41 5780 -
>Ireland +353 (0) 14 845 978 -
>Italy +39 0 699 36 98 81 -
>Norway +47 21 03 58 98 -
>
>Details at https://rd-alliance.org/ig-geospatial-p5-joint-session.html
>
>If you are planning to attend remotely, please let me and Chris know.
>Thanks.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Suchith
>
>PS: We should be getting the dedicated maillist etc for this thematic
>hopefully this week. I willlet you know once i get info.
>
>________________________________________
>From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>[ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Hogan, Patrick
>(ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov]
>Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 11:10 PM
>To: ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>Cc: James Miller; Giuseppe Conti; MELICK Brandt; Gabor Remetey; Varun
>Chandola (chandola at buffalo.edu)
>Subject: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Urban Science - City Analytics - The Road Map
>Challenge
>
>OSGEO USCA (Urban Science/CityAnalytics)
>[or CitySmart, myCitySmart, iCitySmart. . .UrbanNirvana?]
>
>I?ve edited our webpage,
>http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoForAll_UrbanScience_CityAnalytics
>
>First I went looking for links on who the heck we are. WoW! A mighty
>impressive group!
>
>Next did a little housekeeping on prospective Partners and the Resources
>links.
>
>Feel free to continue adding to and fixing this page.
>
>We?ve got to identify some key *Research Questions* and hammer away at
>the *Road Map.*
>
>At some point the Road Map will look entirely different from the bundled
>laundry list we have there now.
>
>The Road Map needs to become so organized and complete that it is a
>well-defined requirements document.
>
>Kind regards,
>-Patrick
> 650.604.5656 (office)
> 650.269.2788 (cell)
>
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:47:04 +1100
>From: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>To: P Kishor <punk.kish at gmail.com>, Suchith Anand
> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>Cc: "discuss at lists.osgeo.org" <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>,
> "board at lists.osgeo.org" <board at lists.osgeo.org>,
> "ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org" <ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] [OSGeo-Discuss] The LAS format, the
> ASPRS, and the ?LAZ clone? by ESRI
>Message-ID: <54F2EE28.6010102 at gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>
>Patrick, others,
>OSGeo and related OGC communities have been successful previously in
>stopping ESRI's inappropriate creation of OGC standards. See here:
>http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoservices_REST_API
>
>I'd suggest that if we as OSGeo wish to be effective at blocking a
>vendor lock-in tactic, as seems to be the case, then we should consider
>developing a similar wiki page for the LAS format debate.
>
>0. Write an open letter (who to? OGC?)
>1. Describe the issue. (Is there someone who knows the issues well
>enough to describe them?)
>2. Describe technically why one format is or is not better than the
>other, on both a technical and commercial point of view.
>3. Is the Open LIDAR format an OGC standard?
>4. If needed, collect signatures.
>5. If needed, ask OSGeo Board to present the open letter
>
>On 28/02/2015 11:18 am, P Kishor wrote:
>> Thanks Patrick for surfacing this. Yes, this should be opened up for
>> scrutiny by the entire community and we should all weigh in.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Suchith Anand
>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I believe the OSGeo
>> Board need to look into this and prepare a position paper with
>> inputs from the community as this has wider implications. This
>> also need to be discussed with like minded organisations. We all
>> can provide the needed support for this.
>>
>> Jeff and OSGeo Board - please add this to the next month Board
>> meeting's agenda items. Thanks.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Suchith
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>> [ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of Lene
>> Fischer [lfi at ign.ku.dk <mailto:lfi at ign.ku.dk>]
>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:29 PM
>> To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the
>> ?LAZ clone? by ESRI
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> Lene Fischer
>> Associate Professor
>>
>> Department of Geosciences and Natural Resource Management
>> University of Copenhagen
>>
>> MOB +45 40115084 <tel:%2B45%2040115084>
>> lfi at ign.ku.dk <mailto:lfi at ign.ku.dk><mailto:lfi at ign.ku.dk
>> <mailto:lfi at ign.ku.dk>>
>>
>>
>> [cid:image001.gif at 01D052C3.B23B1060]
>>
>>
>>
>> Fra: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>> [mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] P? vegne af
>> Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
>> Sendt: 27. februar 2015 18:48
>> Til: ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Emne: [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the ?LAZ
>> clone? by ESRI
>>
>> Dear OSGEO,
>> For what our good name is worth. . .
>> Do we have an opinion on something so essential as an open
>> standard for a data format?
>> Speak now, or forever hand over your wallet. Individual and
>> collective response encouraged.
>>
>> Can OSGEO provide a short position paper commenting on our values?
>> I.e., ?We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all [data]
>> are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
>> certain unalienable Rights, that among these [is Life, Liberty and
>> the pursuit of Openness].?
>>
>> The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the ?LAZ clone? by ESRI
>>
>>http://rapidlasso.com/2015/02/22/lidar-las-asprs-esri-and-the-laz-clone/
>>
>> [First paragraph]
>> We are concerned about ESRI?s next moves in forcing yet another
>> proprietary format into wide-spread deployment. Forwarded emails,
>> retold conversations, and personal experiences suggest that sneaky
>> tactics<http://rapidlasso.com/2014/11/06/keeping-esri-honest/> are
>> being used to disrupt the harmony in open LiDAR formats that we
>> have enjoyed for many years.
>> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D052C3.B23B1060]
>>
>> Thanks much,
>> -Patrick
>>
>> Patrick.Hogan at nasa.gov
>> <mailto:Patrick.Hogan at nasa.gov><mailto:Patrick.Hogan at nasa.gov
>> <mailto:Patrick.Hogan at nasa.gov>>
>> Project Manager
>> NASA World Wind
>> (650) 604-5656 <tel:%28650%29%20604-5656> (office)
>> (650) 269-2788 <tel:%28650%29%20269-2788> (cell)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Puneet Kishor
>> Manager, Science and Data Policy
>> Creative Commons
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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