[Ica-osgeo-labs] [Board] Open call for volunteers to help with building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure

Mon May 25 23:34:41 PDT 2015

Added! - Cheers, Charlie

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu> wrote:

> I suggest to add it to the agenda at the meeting in Como.
>
> Helena
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Seems all the work has occurred under G4A not osgeo
>> On May 24, 2015 4:41 AM, Charles Schweik <cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>
>> wrote:
>>  I'm interested in hearing the reactions to others on this list who have
>> been involved in OSGeo education group for years and before GeoForAll
>> emerged on this thread (you know who you are!).
>>
>>  - Treat OSGeo Edu and GeoForAll as separate or combine?
>>
>>  We also could add this as another discussion topic at the GeoForAll
>> meeting on Tuesday July 14th in FOSS4G EU Como... list the pros and cons of
>> the two strategies?
>>
>>  Cheers,
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Suchith Anand <
>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> If we merge the OSGeo Education Committee into GeoForAll, the main thing
>>> is to make sure it is clearly inclusive and keep continuing strong
>>> participation from ICA members and ISPRS members and we want to encourage
>>> more of this as this is key for the success.Also we want to encourage more
>>> MoUs with other organisations (there are few in the pipeline ) and also
>>> have thier members join the initiative.
>>>
>>> For the maillists, we will continue to have multiple maillists as the
>>> initiative develops and expands. In addition to regional maillists, we will
>>> keep expanding the thematic maillists (for example the AgriGIS thematic
>>> that is under formation in GeoforAll).
>>>
>>> Suchith
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [
>>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter [
>>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:58 PM
>>> To: Massimiliano Cannata
>>> Cc: ICA OSGeo Labs list
>>> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] [Board] Open call for volunteers to help
>>> with building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure
>>>
>>> +1 to Maxi's sentiments. Having multiple email lists/web pages which
>>> cover the same community merely confuses new users trying to engage with
>>> the community.
>>>
>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>
>>> On 22/05/2015 11:37 am, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> This is my personal view that do not reflect the opinion of the board,
>>> but only of a single member.
>>>
>>> If Geo4All is an extension of the edu committee aiming to be
>>> cross-organization, I would expect the edu-com to formerly represent osgeo
>>> with respect to Ica and ISPRS and this is not the case. Since there is no
>>> interactions I cannot see the complimentary but only overlaps.
>>>
>>> Personally, I feel Geo4All has replaced the edu-com. Last email in the
>>> edu-com list seems to be dated December 2014, while ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS list is
>>> active.
>>> Members are almost the same, so I feel there is no time and energy to
>>> support both.
>>>
>>> Education is one of the key missions of osgeo in my opinion and
>>> spreading energies doesn’t make too much sense to me.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents
>>>
>>> Maxi
>>>
>>> Il 21-mag-2015 05:11, "Charles Schweik" <cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>> ha scritto:
>>> The below view makes sense to me.
>>>
>>> I'm cc'ing the OSGeo Board list so they can see your thoughts here,
>>> Suchith.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Suchith Anand <
>>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Charlie,
>>>
>>> My suggestion is to  have a link the GeoforAll website from OSGeo
>>> Education or ideally directly from OSGeo homepage. It is important to keep
>>> both OSGeo Education Committee and GeoforAll as they are complimentary. The
>>> whole idea of GeoforAll was to make this  a wider geocommunity initiative
>>> (hence we have OSGeo, ICA and ISPRS Presidents as cochairs in our Advisory
>>> Board along with GeoforAll community nominated members
>>> http://www.geoforall.org/advisory_board/
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Suchith
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Charles Schweik [cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu<mailto:
>>> cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:43 AM
>>> To: Phillip Davis
>>> Cc: Suchith Anand; Steven Feldman; discuss at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> discuss at lists.osgeo.org>; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to help with
>>> building and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This probably relates directly to my last post to the OSGeo Board and
>>> the distinction between OSGeo Education Committee and GeoForAll.
>>>
>>> I think we can, and probably should, combine them. If others agree, this
>>> would mean building from the OSGeo Education page [1]. I have the authority
>>> to update that page and need to because the ELOgeo link is not functioning
>>> on it and some other updating is needed.
>>>
>>> My problem here is time... I'm trying to focus my attention on a
>>> GeoForAll grant proposal right now! If someone can come up with revised
>>> content for those pages (or we replace with a GeoForAll link)...
>>>
>>> But I think we should see what the board thinks about whether the
>>> Education group and GeoForAll should be combined or separated?
>>>
>>> Or what do others think of this question? (sorry -- I forsee a bunch of
>>> threads on this coming in our in-boxes!)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/education
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu
>>> <mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu><mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu<mailto:
>>> pdavis at delmar.edu>>> wrote:
>>> Suchith you can count on my limited talents to contribute to this worthy
>>> and necessary cause.
>>>
>>> Phillip Davis
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:
>>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>> [
>>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:
>>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Suchith Anand [
>>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>> ><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
>>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:31 AM
>>> To: Steven Feldman; discuss at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> discuss at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> discuss at lists.osgeo.org>>; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>> Subject: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to help with building
>>> and hosting GeoforAll website in OSGeo infrastructure
>>>
>>> Colleagues,
>>>
>>> I would like to call upon all of you , if you can help volunteer to
>>> build a website for "Geo for All" http://www.geoforall.org/  in OSGeo
>>> infrastructure
>>>
>>> Key advantages:
>>>
>>> 1. We can ensure long term hosting and development as the initiative
>>> grows
>>>
>>> 2. We will be able to provide the whole $5k of our budget for student
>>> travel awards for FOSS4G- Seoul 2015
>>>
>>> I am sure our University of Southampton colleagues will be happy to work
>>> with any interested volunteers to move the website from the current hosts
>>> (University of Southampton) to OSGeo infrastructure.
>>>
>>> It will be great if we can have many volunteers so we can spread the
>>> efforts. I am willing to volunteer my time and efforts for provide content
>>> etc for this. Could you please let us all know if you are wlling to help
>>> by 30th May 2015, so we can plan ideas. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Suchith
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>> ><mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>> [board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
>>> board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>> <mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Steven Feldman [
>>> shfeldman at gmail.com<mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com><mailto:
>>> shfeldman at gmail.com<mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>>]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:11 AM
>>> To: Suchith Anand; OSGeo-Board
>>> Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of meeting tomorrow
>>>
>>> Suchith, Board
>>>
>>> We should not be diverting money from the student travel budget to build
>>> a web site for Geo4All. Either use the OSGeo infrastructure or get
>>> volunteers to spin something up, with all of the universities involved
>>> there must be some people with the necessary skills who can do this, we
>>> should not be paying Southampton to do it
>>>
>>> steven
>>>
>>> From: Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
>>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>><mailto:
>>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>> ><mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
>>> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of meeting tomorrow
>>> Date: 21 May 2015 01:01:15 BST
>>> To: Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch<mailto:
>>> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch><mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
>>> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>><mailto:
>>> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch<mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
>>> ><mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch<mailto:
>>> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>>>>
>>> Cc: osgeo-board List <board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org
>>> ><mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>><mailto:
>>> board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:
>>> board at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>>>, "
>>> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
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>>> ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>>>"
>>> <ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>>> ><mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
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>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Massimiliano,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your queries.
>>>
>>> Yes, GeoforAll is 100 percent an OSGeo Education initiative (but
>>> supported by others like ICA, ISPRS through MoUs and we hope more like
>>> minded organisations who have interest in enabling Geospatial education and
>>> opportunities for all join us in the future).
>>>
>>> Regarding your questions:
>>>
>>> - Does a budget for Geo4All exists?
>>>
>>> Yes, the only budget we have is the $5k allocation for ICA/OSGeo Labs
>>> Student Travel  in the OSGeo budget last year and this year. Last year
>>> budget [1] if i remember correctly we did not use it .
>>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2014
>>>
>>>
>>> - ISPRS, ICA and OSGeo how they support the initiative, apart from
>>> having signed the MoU?
>>>
>>> For example in addition to the amazing support that both ICA and ISPRS
>>> has given which helped us expand to many universities globally , they have
>>> been contributing to student awards etc. For example for the Europa World
>>> Wind challenge 2015, both ICA and ISPRS are contributing student prizes
>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2015-May/001531.html  I
>>> remember ICA gave student awards last year also for Europa challenge.
>>>
>>> - Why Geo4All need a website hosted in Nottingham and is not using the
>>> OSGeo infrastructure, like the OSGeo committees (incubation, marketing,
>>> etc.)?
>>>
>>> First of all, it is NOT hosted in Nottingham, it is developed and hosted
>>> by the University of Southampton. We had long , big discussions in Geofor
>>> all maillists to see who can help us with the website development and
>>> hosting . In fact, our first offer came from colleagues in Mexico but
>>> unfortunately even after nearly 1 year delay nothing happened and
>>> thankfully that time University of Southampton colleagues  stepped in and
>>> volunteered to develop a website for us free and i am very grateful for
>>> that.
>>>
>>> If OSGeo intrstructure can be provided  and we can get volunteers for
>>> developing and maintaining our website , we will be very happy. The website
>>> is really key for us and we  need to make sure it is supported long term.
>>> For example, the open educational repository that we at University of
>>> Nottingham developed called ELOGeo, i wanted to transfer to OSGeo
>>> infrastructure when the project funding ended and i did send many emails
>>> but nothing happened. We do not want the same thing to happen to our
>>> website as we spend huge amounts of time and effort reaching this stage and
>>> hence we request support  for the website developments . As you can see
>>> from the links in my email there has been lot of discussions from the
>>> community on this and supporting our website developments is the top
>>> priority.
>>>
>>> - How Geo4All differentiates from the educational committee? Shall we
>>> consider that committee dead and replaced by Geo4All?
>>>
>>> GeoforAll is a key element of OSGeo Education initiative not replacing
>>> the educational committee . The biggest advantage of having GeoforAll
>>> initiative is that we have made OSGeo Education into a wider geocommunity
>>> initiative ( not just OSGeo but much wider geocommunity inititative in
>>> collaboration with other like minded organisations) and we need to take
>>> actions to expand this.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if there are any other queries. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Suchith
>>> _________________
>>> ______
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
>>>
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