[Ica-osgeo-labs] [Board] update on ICA relationship

Thu Nov 5 06:50:12 PST 2015

That is excellent news Jeff. Please keep us updated on your discussions with Menno-Jan.

OSGeo's Geo4All initiative (initially called ICA-OSGeo labs) was started with the key aim to build up OSGeo's education aims and  it is one of the most successful initiatives that we have undertaken. OSGeo Board has made separate MoUs with both ICA[1] and ISPRS[2]  for expanding Geo4All  and  universities,SMEs, government organisations etc worldwide have trusted the MoUs that OSGeo provided and setup labs and joined the network , so it is important we provide strong continuity and focus.  MoUs have to be respected and the momentum created need to build upon with clear direction and focus.

Following lot of discussions among our members in our mail lists [3] etc and the meeting at Como[4]   ,the consensus was  that OSGeo Education and Curriculum Committee and GeoForAll are the same and it is now GeoForAll: OSGeo's Education and Curriculum Effort as reflected in our OSGeo website at http://www.osgeo.org/education  . This needs to be reflected in all communication to avoid unnecessary confusion.

Venka has also presented this outcomes at  FOSS4G Seoul  [5].

We will welcome and include all partners that  OSGeo Board have MOUs with for expanding this OSGeo' Geo4All education initiative and warmly welcome everyone who are following the principles.  That way the OSGeo Board will  be able to  keep  expanding the initiative and to make MoUs with other organisations etc as we are doing now (ICA, ISPRS) and also in future  (Jeff as the OSGeo President is leading new MoUs with other interested organisations and i am sure he will update the wider community at the right time) . We thank all colleagues who worked hard   to make sure this OSGeo initiative is a success from very humble beginnings .I am  aware  that some properitary GIS vendors and their supporters have been doing their best to undermine Geo4All initiative through various tactics seeing its widespread momentum but i am confident that we have a strong global community who will keep expanding the Geo4All initiative so that the mission "Making geospatial education and opportunities accessible to all"  is achieved.

Best wishes,

Suchith

[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_ICA
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_ISPRS
[3] https://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ica-osgeo-labs
[4]   http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_EU_Como_2015_Preconference_meeting
[5] http://www.slideshare.net/VenkateshRaghavan1/g4-a-newver2

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From: Board [board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Helena Mitasova [hmitaso at ncsu.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 6:47 PM
To: Jeff McKenna
Cc: OSGeo Board
Subject: Re: [Board] update on ICA relationship

Jeff, Maxi,

good point on meeting with Menno-Jan regarding ICA-OSGeo MOU.

I was thinking about meeting with Menno-Jan in person as well - I will be in Netherlands in January 23-Feb4 and then most of April, so maybe I should coordinate with you before asking him for a meeting/visit at his institution. As I mentioned to George I would really like to see something like open source cartography challenge from the ICA community - I keep hearing complaints about rather limited capabilities in terms of cartographic templates, symbology, etc. for open source tools so this is an area where ICA could make a major contribution.

So let me know whether I should contact him individually or we could try for a meeting

Helena

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com<mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>> wrote:
Hi Maxi,

Maybe we can plan for a meeting between Menno-Jan and their board members, with OSGeo representatives.  It might be good to sit down (virtually, or in person) all together and see what makes sense for both organizations.

In terms of this meeting, I called this meeting with Menno-Jan I believe last month, when I noticed a message on one of the mailing lists about the new ICA president.  I feel it is important take the time to manage these relationships.

I have no problem with planning a followup meeting to address all of your concerns.

-jeff

On 2015-10-30 1:29 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
I think people are talking if g4a is a commitee of osegeo or not. But
what ica think? Does ica think g4a is a committee of ica? How do they
want to handle this partnership with osgeo?
What id thei vision for the future? Improving numbers of labs, work on
quality (sort of incubation for labs?)

So what is the concrete ica point of view on g4a apart of sharing of
principle of enabling gis to all the world?

This is my question  maybe you addressed in your meeting.

Maxi

Il 30/Ott/2015 16:24, "Jeff McKenna" <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com<mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
<mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com<mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>>> ha scritto:

    Hi Maxi,

    I think I did a good job of reporting the outcomes of that meeting,
    in my message.  Was there a topic you wanted me to tackle?
    Something missing in that report that you hoped to see me handle?
    If yes, please let me know and I will ask Menno-Jan at our next meeting.

    -jeff

    On 2015-10-30 12:18 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:

        Jeff
        Could you report what was the outcomes? We have a discussion
        running on
        geo4all initiative and the vision of ICA is relevant i think.

        Thanks
        Maxi

        Il 30/Ott/2015 15:16, "Jeff McKenna"
        <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com<mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
        <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com<mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>>
        <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com<mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
        <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com<mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>>>> ha scritto:

             Hi Board, all,

             This morning I had a video meeting with the new ICA
        president, Prof
             Menno-Jan Kraak[1].  We had planned this meeting, and we
        had a good
             long talk about the two foundations and how we can continue
        working
             together.  We plan to do this every 2 months, even if we
        have no
             updates for each other (in talking, we found out we share
        so much in
             common being the president of a foundation, and it is great
        to speak
             of issues that really only presidents or ex-presidents can
             understand of).  I had a good laugh when he spoke of his daily
             e-mail messages increasing by 90%, yes, welcome to the role ha.

             We have circled a few events for 2016 where we will
        hopefully sit
             down together and talk face to face.

             We of course spoke of the importance of GeoForAll to both
        organizations.

             I look forward to working with the ICA and Menno-Jan.

             -jeff

             [1] http://icaci.org/executive-committee/menno-jan-kraak/

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