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[Daniel Brookshier]

First, remember that the CollabNet tools is a hosted solution and  
limited up to a point to its own tools.

However, we can point to other resources via sub domain. We can point  
to a Plone just as have the wiki. This is not an integrated solution  
(I have no way to extend the search) so it is not ideal. The contract  
with CollabNet allows us to do the footwork for the domain reference,  
but not hosting - so that needs to be taken care of similar also to  
the wiki which is hosted and maintained by a 3rd party volunteer.

As to using Plone itself in this sort of scheme, it would need to be  
seen as an OSGeo resource and you would need to manage it for all  
projects that would like to use it.

Daniel Brookshier
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On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Steve Lime wrote:

> What are the possilities for offering a broader set of hosted
> capabilities? For example, we just moved to a plone-based site
> and want to continue to use that technology. Can the foundation
> infrastructure support a range of best of breed technologies?
>
> Steve
>
>>>> mlucas17 at mac.com 03/14/06 10:31 AM >>>
> Agree with Frank's comments, the best thing that we can do to
> encourage migration, consolidated hosting, and standardization on
> look and feel is to offer value and support.  As Open Sourcers, we
> are quite used to migrating to the best of breed once it is
> demonstrated.
>
> Mark
>
> On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>
>> Daniel Brookshier wrote:
>>> This is a good question. The whole idea of a project joining the
>>> foundation is to be under a common set of managed tools.
>>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> I wouldn't at all agree that being under the same set of managed  
>> tools
>> was the "whole idea" of the foundation.
>>
>>> OSGeo.org is the primary site for voting and such, ...
>>
>> Was there a voting mechanism in the CN platform I missed?
>>
>>
>>> so this does confuse things a bit. The foundation can throw its
>>> weight around by its size and being offsite can impact both
>>> registered user numbers and site hits.
>>>
>>> Overall the key point is that you are not really a 100% part of
>>> the system unless you are in it. At Java.net we have a logo-
>>> exchange arrangement that shows you are a member. We could do the
>>> same thing, but as stated, there are disadvantages. I understand
>>> your need for independence, and that you already have a site. It
>>> is up to you on how you proceed.
>>
>> There is certain an erosion of the coherence of OSGeo as a brand
>> and as
>> a group when projects are entirely offsite.  Within the incubator I
>> think
>> we need to wrestle with what, if any, requirements we would make on
>> projects
>> to be "on" the osgeo.org web site and tools.  My personal opinion
>> is that we
>> should not be trying to force the issue, but that we need to do
>> something
>> to provide some sense of being part of the foundation for member
>> projects.
>>
>> For GDAL I have been successful getting my web site at http://
>> gdal.osgeo.org.
>> I am contemplating moving my CVS tree into an osgeo.org CVS tree
>> but I am
>> concerned about the disruption with new CVS userids and so forth.
>> I would
>> contemplate moving the mailing lists, or at least perhaps hosting new
>> announce and user mailing lists at osgeo.org.  I'm not at all
>> interested in
>> losing my existing bugzilla instance.
>>
>> I think each project, as part of their "incubation project status"
>> should list
>> the services they are willing to migrate, and how that is going.
>> But I
>> don't see that we can force anything in this regard.
>>
>> PS. I don't see any reason why code would need to be in an OSGeo SVN
>> tree to be considered valid for our purposes.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> -- 
>> ---------------------------------------
>> +--------------------------------------
>> I set the clouds in motion - turn up   | Frank Warmerdam,
>> warmerdam at pobox.com
>> light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam
>> and watch the world go round - Rush    | President OSGF, http://
>> osgeo.org
>>
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