[Incubator] [rasdaman-users] Re: [rasdaman-dev] rasdaman incubation

Bruce Bannerman bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com
Thu Jun 12 18:43:09 PDT 2014 

Peter,

We are starting to get there. Well done on getting this together.

There shouldn't be too much more work required at this stage, though
questions may well be asked once the project is put forward for incubation.

I've identified a few areas where some effort is required below.


Some comments:

We need to use the new version of the Incubation Graduation checklist [1].

The first criterion 'Open' does not appear to have been addressed. Perhaps
I've missed it. If so, please ensure that this is clearly covered at the
top of the page.

Project documentation response at 'point 2' of Copyright and License
contains a link. The link just refers to documentation on the wiki
submitted by Peter Bauman.

- What of Wiki contributions by other parties? is there a an agreement that
Wiki editors commit to?

- What of other project documentation in files etc? For example the
Rasdaman Installation guide [3] is copyright to Rasdaman GMBH and does not
appear to be released under an open license such as CC BY.

Provenance Review:

- JSR 275
<http://rasdaman.org/browser/applications/petascope/lib/jsr-275-1.0-beta-2.jar>
does not appear to be covered by a license.

- Clarification is required for OGC Team Engine

- more work is required under the Rasdaman Server section to fill in the
details.

- I'd suggest a section covering the methodology and work that was to
undertake the code provenance review.

- the link to the list of copyright holders points to the code provenance
review URL. Was this intended?

- I like the contributor listing in the Patch manager URL. Are you also
able to list the organisation that the contributor is from (where
appropriate)?

- How can the details of the contributor agreements be accessed if
required. How are they archived?

Processes: Governance

- The governance wiki page [2] refers to a url attached to the text
'instruments' on the second line. This is linked to the Wiki Start page.
Was this intended? It doesn't really make sense.

- The governance page refers to a rasdaman-psc google group. Does this
exist? It is also not referred to on the mailing list wiki page.


Release Procedure

- point 1.a. contains a link to the testing process. This URL points to a
password protected Jenkins page. This is not very useful.


Board Contact.

The Rasdaman Community will need to nominate a Project contact for the
OSGeo Board.


Section labelled Projects.

Is there anything OSGeo related that needs to be included here? I seem to
recall discussion about GDAL, MapServer, and various packaging communities
for instance.


Section labeled PSC

This section does not really fit in the current Checklist.




I hope this helps,

Bruce




[1] http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html

[2] http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/Governance

[3]
http://www.rasdaman.org/browser/manuals_and_examples/manuals/doc-guides/inst-guide.pdf




On 12/06/2014 4:40 pm, "Peter Baumann" <p.baumann at jacobs-university.de>
wrote:

>Bruce-
>
>it's the same page, I've just edited it:
>http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist
>
>-Peter
>
>On 06/11/2014 11:54 PM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Where can I find the item that you want me to look at?
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com [rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com]
>>On Behalf Of Peter Baumann [p.baumann at jacobs-university.de]
>> Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 2:38 AM
>> To: rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com
>> Cc: rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com; Incubator at lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: [rasdaman-users] Re: [rasdaman-dev] rasdaman incubation
>>
>> Bruce-
>>
>> ok, next iteration done: for reviewers' convenience, all claims are
>>substantiated with links. On that occasion, I have brushed up the text
>>as well. What do you think about it?
>>
>> -Peter
>>
>> On 05/22/2014 01:55 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> The responses to the criteria will be very specific to the Rasdaman
>>Project. Therefore, I don't think that a reference project will help
>>that much. Particularly as the Incubation process has matured over the
>>years.
>>
>> Let's set the benchmark for how future such Incubation Graduation
>>reports should be done.
>>
>> The criteria has been clearly defined (IMHO).
>>
>> We just need to respond accordingly.
>>
>> Let's prepare a first draft and proceed from there.
>>
>>  From below:
>>
>> - provide a short succinct statement that explains the details of how
>>Rasdaman meets each requirement.
>>
>> Much of what we will need to reference has already been documented on
>>the Rasdaman wiki. We do not need to reproduce the wiki content in the
>>document. Just make the case for each criterion and refer readers to the
>>appropriate URL for more information.
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Peter Baumann
>><p.baumann at jacobs-university.de<mailto:p.baumann at jacobs-university.de>>
>>wrote:
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> great to have you back!
>> To better understand your suggestions below, what reference project in
>>OSGeo could we follow?
>> I am cc'ing to the incubation list for the same question.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/21/2014 12:06 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> The OSGeo Incubation Project Graduation Checklist is at [1].
>>
>> We need to be able to make the case that the Rasdaman Project meets the
>>requirements outlined in this checklist.
>>
>> I suggest that this is best done if we were to construct a concise
>>document that clearly addresses each point of the checklist showing how
>>Rasdaman is ready for graduation, and that contains links back to the
>>authoritative corresponding page within the Rasdaman Project wiki.
>>
>> We currently have at least two pages that refer to the incubation
>>status of Rasdaman [2] and [3].
>>
>> The page at [3] is probably a good starting point.
>>
>> Some suggestions:
>>
>> - treat the the checklist at [1] as a set of requirements that we need
>>to meet. We need to be able to convince the Incubation Committee and the
>>OSGeo Board that the Rasdaman Project is ready for graduation from the
>>Incubation process.Â
>>
>> - provide a short succinct statement that explains the details of how
>>Rasdaman meets each requirement.  I don't believe that an icon with a
>>tick will be sufficient to convince people who are unfamiliar with the
>>project that the requirement is met.
>>
>> - There may be follow up work that is also required, e.g. ensuring that
>>we have resolved all outstanding IP issues. As an example, one of the
>>requirements is that all project documentation is available via an open
>>license (e.g. Creative Commons) to ensure that the documentation is
>>available for re-use. How is this handled on both the wiki and also in
>>static documentation.
>>
>> Let's start with an initial draft and work out what needs to be done
>>from there. We may need to set up a Google hangout or two once we've had
>>time to reflect on the draft.
>>
>> Is this sufficient information for now to proceed on?
>>
>> When do you think that we could get a first draft to review?Â
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> I'm sorry about the recent delay from my end, however as I explained
>>recently it has been unavoidable.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> [1]
>>http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html
>>
>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Rasdaman_Incubation_Status
>>
>> [3] http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19/05/2014 3:45 am, "Peter Baumann"
>><baumann at rasdaman.com<mailto:baumann at rasdaman.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> you once suggested to continue the "last mile" of incubation in May -
>>>so
>>> I am
>>> wondering whether there is anything that can be done from our side.
>>>We're
>>> happy
>>> to look at any potential remaining issue.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/02/2014 09:46 PM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the prompt Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I'm in the middle of preparations for an important trip.
>>>>
>>>> I did not see any further discussion within the Community on the
>>>> Governance pages, so it is time to progress the incubation issue.
>>>>
>>>> To expedite matters, can I suggest that we get the Rasdaman Incubation
>>>> Status pages updated. We'll also need to make sure that all
>>>>outstanding
>>>> intellectual property issues have been resolved. From memory there
>>>>were
>>>> one or two outstanding.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From:
>>>>rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com<mailto:rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com>
>>>>[rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com<mailto:rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com>]
>>>>On
>>>> Behalf Of Peter Baumann
>>>>[p.baumann at jacobs-university.de<mailto:p.baumann at jacobs-university.de>]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 March 2014 7:12 AM
>>>> To:
>>>>rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com<mailto:rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com>;
>>>>Bruce Bannerman;
>>>>
>>>>rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com<mailto:rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [rasdaman-dev] finally: a governance document
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> while we are otherwise in excellent contact I seem to be missing any
>>>> response to
>>>> my recent inquiries on OSGeo graduation.
>>>> Looking forward to learning your opinion on the status of rasdaman.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/17/2014 08:07 PM, Peter Baumann wrote:
>>>>> Hi again Bruce,
>>>>>
>>>>> how do you see it from your perspective: anything missing for
>>>>>rasdaman
>>>>> graduation?
>>>>> Kindly let us know any issue you would want to see addressed.
>>>>>
>>>>> best,
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/27/2014 03:43 PM, Peter Baumann wrote:
>>>>>> Bruce-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> interesting twist by Alan - how would you see rasdaman's position
>>>>>> currently,
>>>>>> is there anything still missing? (of course we are not perfect yet,
>>>>>> and that
>>>>>> there is always room for improvement)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/10/2014 04:19 PM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> It is great to see this step towards an enhanced success for the
>>>>>>> rasdaman
>>>>>>> community, and towards our project graduation of course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com<mailto:rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[mailto:rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com<mailto:rasdaman-dev at googlegrou
>>>>>>>ps.com>]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Peter Baumann
>>>>>>> Sent: 07 January 2014 12:02
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com<mailto:rasdaman-users at googlegroups.c
>>>>>>>om>;
>>>>>>>rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com<mailto:rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [rasdaman-dev] finally: a governance document
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fresh year, fresh results: finally, after getting to breath with
>>>>>>>9.0
>>>>>>> finalization, a governance page has been set up - nothing
>>>>>>> surprising, in
>>>>>>> particular no change over status quo, just written down as a matter
>>>>>>> of good
>>>>>>> housekeeping of the project.
>>>>>>> It is available here: http://rasdaman.org/wiki/Governance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy (rest of) 2014,
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>university.de/pbaumann>
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