[Incubator] Recommend Graduation of Rasdaman from OSGeo Incubation

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Wed Oct 29 14:37:56 PDT 2014


Jody,
For the record, I provided comprehensive review comments which I feel 
need to be addressed before rasdaman should be considered ready for 
incubation.
While I think rasdaman is close, I'm -1 on graduation until these 
comments have been addressed.


On 19/10/2014 8:30 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Hi Peter and Bruce,
> I've reviewed the incubation documentation provided, and provided a 
> few spot reviews of the referenced documentation.
> Overall, I think the documentation is in good shape, but missing 
> explanations, particularly around licenses and testing.
>
>
> Below are a few things that I'd like to see looked into before final 
> sign off:
>
> Looking at: http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist which 
> provides the summary about how the project is ready to complete 
> graduation.
>
> * For each statement that you are addressing, please add a brief 
> sentence explaining HOW you are addressing the statement, possibly 
> also with an OPINION.
> For instance, currently for: "Open communication channels", you have 
> "see MailingLists".
> In reviewing, I can see that a mailing list has been set up. In 
> looking at the list, I see users are asked questions on the user list 
> and there are answers. I can see that auto-patch messages are being 
> pumped into the developers list. In my quick scan, I can't see 
> discussions between developers about a new feature, and discussions 
> about a design idea. So I'd suggest describing how communication is 
> happening. Maybe:
> "See MailingLists <URL>. User questions are typically addressed on the 
> user email list. Development is currently mostly happening at Jacobs 
> University, and discussions about development typically happen in 
> person, and the results of such conversations are summarised onto the 
> developer email list (or ...)."
>
> * For "Open Source License": I'd be hoping to see a statement about 
> the dual license, including a comment about the enterprise license. 
> I'm ok with the dual license concept which I think fits with OSGeo 
> principles.  Further, from the material and links provided, it seems 
> plausible that the GPL license terms are broken by LGPL and enterprise 
> licensed products being distributed.
> I feel there needs to be an explanation of the enterprise license, and 
> then about how LGPL products and enterprise products don't need to be 
> GPL (because they don't link in any GPL libraries?).
>
> * "/Long term viability/":
> Sentence needed here discussing roughly how many contributors you 
> have, (as well as existing reference to patchmanager).
>
> * /Project documentation is available under an open license, as 
> documented here: Legal/:
> The referenced "Legal" link doesn't talk about Documentation. Please 
> reference correct documentation license link.
>
> * /http://rasdaman.org/wiki/Legal/ :
> Remove references to "... blah-blah ..."
>
> * " /Which includes execution of the testing process before releasing 
> a stable release: http://212.201.49.21:35000/"/ :
>  Link requires user log in. A sentence explaining testing will help here.
>
> * "/All patches submitted to the repository undergo review before 
> being applied to the code base: http://www.rasdaman.org/patchmanager/" :
> This doesn't confirm that patches are reviewed (by a person), only 
> that you use patchmanager.
>
> * "/Systemtests are to be run by developers before submitting patches: 
> http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/CodeGuide/" :
> This code guide is good, but on my first pass, I can't see any 
> reference to testing processes. How do you verify that all code is 
> tested? Ideally reference continual integration or similar.
>
> * Link to /http://rasdaman.org/browser/systemtest/ is broken. I'm 
> looking for evidence of testing processes, including unit testing, 
> continuous integration, and a system testing plan which is executed.
>

On 30/10/2014 7:23 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
> We are running into the end of our 10 business days - if you have not 
> already done so please take this opportunity to review Bruce's 
> recommendation, and the documentation provided by the Rasdaman community.
>
> Jody Garnett
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com 
> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the nomination Bruce.
>
>     As this list sees such low traffic/participation we have struggled
>     to reach quorum. I would like to keep this motion open for two
>     weeks (10 business days) to allow members to review and vote.
>     --
>     Jody
>
>     Jody Garnett
>
>     On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Bruce Bannerman
>     <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com
>     <mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>         Project:                    Rasdaman
>
>         Project Contact:       Peter Baumann
>
>         Project Mentor:        Bruce Bannerman
>
>
>         Recommendation:   Rasdaman to Graduate from OSGeo Incubation
>
>
>         Incubation Checklist:
>         http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist
>
>
>
>         Comments:
>
>         I have been monitoring and participating in the Rasdaman
>         Community developer and user email lists for over four years.
>         I plan to continue to participate within the community.
>
>         It has been pleasing to see how the community has evolved over
>         this time to develop effective, open and robust processes.
>
>         I recommend to other FOSS4G communities to review what has
>         been done, as you may well find that Rasdaman offers a
>         compelling solution for the management of multi-dimensional
>         array or gridded data that your project may be able to
>         capitalise on.
>
>         A summary of community activity may be found at:
>         https://www.openhub.net/p/rasdaman
>
>         Key project members are active within both OSGeo and the OGC.
>
>         Within the OGC they have successfully guided a range of
>         standards to support mutltidimensional array (gridded) data
>         which have culminated (currently) in Web Coverage Service
>         version 2.0 and a suite of extensions, see:
>         http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wcs
>
>         The project's principal, Professor Peter Baumann was also
>         recently awarded OGC's prestigious Kenneth D Gardels award for
>         his contributions to OGC.
>
>
>
>         After having participated within the community for four years
>         and having reviewed their OSGeo Project Graduation Checklist,
>         I believe that Rasdaman Community have fulfilled the
>         requirements of OSGeo Incubation and are eligible to graduate
>         as an OSGeo Project.
>
>
>         The only reservation that I have is over the dual licensing
>         model that is used by the sponsoring company, Rasdaman GmbH.
>         See: http://www.rasdaman.com/Product/commercial+free.php
>
>
>         There are two versions: Community (GPL and LGPL) and
>         Enterprise (free from GPL constraints).
>
>         The main difference between the two versions is summarised at:
>         http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/Features
>
>
>         This dual licensing may create a problem for the Rasdaman
>         Community in the future should Rasdaman GmbH decide to sell
>         its stake in the Rasdaman Enterprise version of the software.
>         We have already seen a similar situation arise after the sale
>         of MySQL which was similarly licensed.
>
>         However as the community edition of the software is released
>         under open source licenses, I expect that the main impact
>         would be to the continuity of the Rasdaman Community in its
>         current form. In the event of a sale, we may see the software
>         forked, as happened with MySQL.
>
>         For consideration and vote.
>
>         Bruce
>
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