[Incubator] [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure

Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Thu Feb 26 10:34:15 PST 2015


It is also interesting to see the Apache incubator project list:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/

On 02/26/2015 08:24 PM, Tom Kralidis wrote:
> Agreed.  I think there is an opportunity for OSGeo to become more
> agile in this manner (hobu's recent Proj4 tweet really provided a wake
> up call for me [1]):
>
> - review principles/value proposition of becoming an OSGeo project
> - update the process to be more agile for all involved (note that this
> should not come at the cost of software quality)
>
> Looking at Apache's project list [2] as an example tells me there is
> an opportunity to grow.
>
> ..Tom
>
> [1] https://twitter.com/howardbutler/status/569577495688663040
> [2] http://projects.apache.org/indexes/alpha.html
>
>> [Incubator] [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>> Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
>> Mon Feb 16 11:50:47 PST 2015
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>> I concur, this subject came up at the osgeo code-sprint last week - it is
>> very difficult project projects like MetaCRS and JTS to consider graduating
> >from OSGeo due to our incubation requirements.
>> I would like to point out that projects should feel comfortable negotiating
>> a with the incubation committee. The MetaCRS projects may not be able to
>> demonstrate commercial viability using a range of contributing
>> organizations (our example in the checklist) but should be able to point
>> out the wide use downstream (so if PROJ goes under it is likely that the
>> work will in-fact continue).
>> --
>> Jody
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 16 February 2015 at 05:47, Stephen Woodbridge <woodbri at swoodbridge.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/16/2015 6:44 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to dig a bit more into the topic "more fine incubation"
>>>> procedure and former "OSGeo Labs" (now it has no name is slowly
>>>> forgotten in past, but you can find more at
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs)
>>>>
>>>> I would like to start talk about it a bit (I suggest incubator mailing
>>>> list), prepared wiki page (with confusing name):
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/5-star-rating
>>>>
>>>> Scope: to re-new OSGeo Labs, make the incubation process easier for all
>>>> of us, with more little steps (except for one big). Projects could flow
>>>> between the steps "up" and "down", related to their current living phase.
>>>>
>>>> I hope, this would help to the community to get oriented, would allow
>>>> more projects to join in. Work for incubation committee and mentors
>>>> could be even less (some projects will remain in beta). It's also
>>>> related to the "certification" topic (even not people, but software).
>>>>
>>>> Jachym
>>>>
>>> This makes a lot of sense to me. I am involved with a lot of smaller
>>> projects that are valuable but unlikely to be able to stand on their own
>>> because the community is weak.
>>>
>>> pagc (geocoding) - this is all but dead as a project but out of it came a
>>> core piece of technology the has been moved into postGIS Geocoder
>>>
>>> pgRouting - driving directions and vehicle routing problems, we have
>>> contributed 8+ GSoC mentors to OSGeo over the past years, but it has been
>>> hard to get funding and volunteers to support ongoing development and
>>> project releases. We have looked at incubation, but we do not have a strong
>>> enough community to be able to graduate.
>>>
>>> It would be good to have a way to foster projects like this and to look
>>> for opportunities to merge smaller projects into larger ones that where
>>> their might be a good fit. I think that we need to better recognize that
>>> there will be projects that might not be able to stand on their own but
>>> that they may also be fertile ground for development of good technology and
>>> that mentoring and redirecting these projects could be a good way to
>>> harvest this.
>>>
>>> Anyway, something to think about ...
>>>
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