[Incubator] Info on the Old OSGeo Labs

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Sun Mar 6 14:38:34 PST 2016


Thanks Landon,

I am aware of what is on the wiki - lets see what we would write today if
we focus on being inclusive (focus on providing a home for pgRouting). We
are trying to set up a destination, rather than just an entry point into
incubation.

--
Jody Garnett

On 6 March 2016 at 14:03, Landon Blake <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I'm a little confused. I'm not proposing that "OSGeo Technology"
> is a label that just anyone can slap on their open source code. That wasn't
> the purpose of the old OSGeo labs either.
>
> Here is what is currently on our wiki:
>
> Purpose
>
> OSGeo Labs is an umbrella for open source geospatial software projects
> that would like to become OSGeo projects in the future, but that aren't
> ready for incubation quite yet. It is appropriate to submit your new or
> experimental project as an OSGeo labs project.
>
> The volunteers that work as part of OSGeo Labs have the goal of helping
> OSGeo Labs Projects qualify for incubation. To reach this goal, OSGeo Labs
> volunteers help OSGeo Labs Projects with the following tasks:
>
>    - Project marketing.
>    - Development of user and programmer communities.
>    - Establishment of programs and policies for project documentation,
>    copyright assignment, and licensing.
>    - Establishment of programs and policies for software development.
>    This includes version tracking, bug tracking, and feature request tracking,
>    creation of a development road map, and organization of code sprints/events.
>    - Establishment of project governance programs and policies.
>    - Collaboration on technical standars, data formats, and code sharing
>    with other open source geospatial software projects.
>    - Utilization of software development infrastructure like mailing
>    lists, bug trackers, version control software/hosting, and web hosting.
>
> OSGeo Labs Project Selection Criteria
>
> Projects should only submit themselves for inclusion in OSGeo Labs if they
> follow the OSGeo Incubation principles.
>
>    1. The code is under an OSI approved license (data & doc projects need
>    to specify their choice for a type of license).
>    2. The project is willing to keep code clear of encumbrances
>    3. The project is "geospatial", or directly supports geospatial
>    applications.
>    4. The project hopes to become a graduated OSGeo project.
>
> Has any of that changed? I thought we were just changing a name because of
> the conflict with the education committee initiative.
>
> Landon
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 5:27 AM, Daniel Morissette <
> dmorissette at mapgears.com> wrote:
>
>> I kind of share Cameron's opinion. I can live with the OSGeo Technology
>> name even if it can be confusing as Cameron pointed out, but it is the
>> following proposed text that bothers me:
>>
>> """
>> All projects here meet our goals as an organization - they are open
>>     source (no really we checked) and are inclusive and welcoming to new
>>     contributors.
>> """
>>
>> There is no way we can confirm that those projects meet our goal as an
>> organization until we've vetted them somehow. And since we do not have any
>> entry test for those projects, I would tend to go with a warning instead,
>> such as:
>>
>> """
>> The technology projects are listed here by their own developers and have
>> not gone through incubation or any other OSGeo review process. For this
>> reason we cannot take responsibility for the accuracy, reliability or
>> completeness of the provided information.
>> """
>>
>>
>> My 0.02$
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2016-03-04 2:57 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jody,
>>> I agree with your suggestion that "Old OSGeo Labs" need not have an aim
>>> of entering OSGeo incubation.
>>> However, I object to any project becoming associated with OSGeo without
>>> it being obvious about the level of quality control the project has gone
>>> through.
>>>
>>> As suggested below, I could knock together 100 lines of uncommented,
>>> non-working code, give it an open source license, and then add a "OSGeo
>>> Technology" logo to the home page. And most average punters wouldn't
>>> know the difference between term "OSGeo Project" and "OSGeo Technology".
>>> This would result in diminishing the current association between OSGeo
>>> applications and quality, which would be a bad thing.
>>>
>>> I feel "OSGeo Labs", "OSGeo Community Builder Projects", or shortened to
>>> "OSGeo Builder Projects" are less likely to be confused with "OSGeo
>>> Incubated" projects.
>>>
>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>
>>> On 4/03/2016 2:13 am, Stephen Woodbridge wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1, I think these changes make a lot of sense and as part of an OSGeo
>>>> Technology project this feels very inclusive.
>>>>
>>>> -Steve W
>>>>
>>>> On 3/3/2016 9:46 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to change the tone of the page a bit, since it "assumes"
>>>>> incubation ..
>>>>>
>>>>>     /OSGeo Labs is an umbrella for open source geospatial software
>>>>>     projects that would like to become OSGeo projects in the future,
>>>>> but
>>>>>     that aren't ready for incubation quite yet. It is appropriate to
>>>>>     submit your new or experimental project as an OSGeo labs project./
>>>>>     /
>>>>>     /
>>>>>     /The volunteers that work as part of OSGeo Labs have the goal of
>>>>>     helping OSGeo Labs Projects qualify for incubation. To reach this
>>>>>     goal, OSGeo Labs volunteers help OSGeo Labs Projects with the
>>>>>     following tasks:
>>>>>     /
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would become:
>>>>>
>>>>>     /Welcome to OSGeo Technology. The projects listed here are part of
>>>>>     the Open Source Geospatial Foundation and range from new
>>>>>     experimental projects to established pillars of our open source
>>>>>     ecosystem./
>>>>>     /
>>>>>     /
>>>>>     /All projects here meet our goals as an organization - they are
>>>>> open
>>>>>     source (no really we checked) and are inclusive and welcoming to
>>>>> new
>>>>>     contributors./
>>>>>     /
>>>>>     /
>>>>>
>>>>>     /Projects that go on to establish excellence in community building,
>>>>>     documentation, and governance can enter our "incubation" program. /
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would also lose the "status" conditions seed/seedling/sapling/adult
>>>>> and keep OSGeo Technology focused on the basics (open source &
>>>>> inclusive). The status becomes having the "OSGeo Technology" badge nice
>>>>> and simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thinking this through a bit more we have one clear reason for projects
>>>>> to go through with incubation - being recognized by the board and
>>>>> having
>>>>> an OSGeo Officer listed directly for the project, while OSGeo
>>>>> Technology
>>>>> projects "share" an officer (as part of "incubation committee").
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11 February 2016 at 11:04, Landon Blake <
>>>>> sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     There is some good information on what we were trying to achieve
>>>>>     with the old OSGeo Labs on the wiki:
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs
>>>>>
>>>>>     I think most of that information on the wiki still applies. This
>>>>>     includes the purpose of labs, how projects get started in labs,
>>>>> what
>>>>>     labs is trying to accomplish, and the criteria to determine if your
>>>>>     project is a good fit for labs.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Does anyone have major heartburn with what is laid out on that wiki
>>>>>     page? (I'll rename the wiki page as soon as we get a new name for
>>>>> labs.)
>>>>>
>>>>>     Landon
>>>>>
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