[Incubator] Fwd: Motion: Rasdaman ready to graduate from OSGeo Incubation

Bruce Bannerman bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com
Tue May 3 15:44:39 PDT 2016

Dear Incubation Committee,

We have two days left to vote on this motion.

There has been sufficient discussion to thrash out the issues.

Given the nature of the vote and the six years of effort that the Rasdaman
Community have put into meeting OSGeo Incubation requirements, I would like
to see a strong indication of Committee Member's views on this issue.

I personally don't believe that there is room for Committee Members to sit
on the fence and not make a call on this.

Remember, we are making a recommendation to the OSGeo Board.

The Board will have the final decision.

We have the following response after twelve days of voting:

   - Bruce Bannerman
   - Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques
   - Landon Blake
   - Howard Butler
   - Arnulf Christl
   - Jody Garnett
   - Dimitris Kotzinos
   - Tom Kralidis
   - Julien-Samuel Lacroix
   - Mark Lucas
   - Steve Lime
   - Daniel Morissette
   - Markus Schneider
   - Cameron Shorter
   - Jeroen Ticheler
   - Norman Vine
   - Frank Warmerdam


Bruce Bannerman
OSGeo Mentor for Rasdaman

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:11 AM
Subject: Motion: Rasdaman ready to graduate from OSGeo Incubation
To: "Incubator at lists.osgeo.org" <incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
Cc: "<rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com>" <rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com>,
"<rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com>" <rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com>

Take 2

Dear Incubation Committee,

After a long six years of effort, I'd like to recommend that Rasdaman is
ready for graduation from the OSGeo Incubation process.

You will find the Incubation Checklist at:


I believe that the Rasdaman community have met our requirements to graduate
from incubation.

I have found the community to be robust and very active attracting
contributors from many corners of the globe.

The project is attracting quite a bit of interest, together with European
Union funding for additional development that appears to be going into the
open source version of the product.

I have also noted that Rasdaman Gmbh is also moving some of their
previously proprietary capability into the open source version.

Peter Bauman, the man behind Rasdaman is also making very significant and
noteworthy contributions to the world of open spatial standards through his
work within OGC and W3C Spatial Data on the Web Working Group. Rasdaman is
an OGC Reference implementation of several WCS related standards from

I do have a reservation though:

While I see that Rasdaman is meeting the requirements of the OSGeo
Incubation process, I do feel that it is not meeting the spirit of

As an example control of the project is still tightly controlled around
Rasdaman GMbh:

- Two of the three members of the Rasdaman PSC are members of Rasdaman Gmbh;
- Project technical design and strategic directions are tightly controlled
and do not appear to be openly discussed on public emailing lists. Things
'just happen'; and
- The Rasdaman-PSC email list contains no emails [1].

I do know of one or two attempts to try to get public discussion going
about strategic technical direction, however I did not see much activity
related to it. This is probably symptomatic of the lack of a serious
attempt at community consultation on strategic and technical design issues
to date.

My advice to the Rasdaman Community is that for you to truly thrive as an
open source community, you will need to look closely at this issue and
address it proactively. It is your project!

Bruce Bannerman
OSGeo Mentor for Rasdaman

[1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rasdaman-psc


The checklist (http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist) seems
complete. The last communication from Bruce was also positive, but did not
elicit a response from this mailing list.

I recommend Bruce invite discussion/review of checklist and prep a
recommendation for graduation (if he is comfortable doing so at this time).

Jody Garnett

On 21 April 2016 at 00:55, Peter Baumann <p.baumann at jacobs-university.de>
Dear all,

just a brief question, what are the plans about rasdaman incubation?
Last communication was 7 months ago, and this April we had our 6th
of entering incubation.

thanks for sharing your thoughts,

Dr. Peter Baumann
 - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
   mail: p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
   tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
 - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
   www.rasdaman.com, mail: baumann at rasdaman.com
   tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
"Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis
ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli
destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD

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