[Incubator] request from zoo-project

Mon Jul 16 14:17:08 PDT 2018

No worries Gerald, for context OSGeo liability insurance covers me
operating as chair of the incubation committee - until ZOO-Project
graduates we cannot offer your PSC the same protection. Well we can by me
acting at the request of the ZOO-PSC which is what this email is about. It
works the same way with the board, if you make a request for funding to the
board they are acting on your behalf.

Last time this came up with a project there was some discussion about if a
project was "part" of OSGeo. ZOO-Project is clearly part of OSGeo, and when
graduated will be free to act more independently (not even needing to go to
the board when wishing to spend money within their annual budget).

Finally if your planning at the start of the year needs to be updated, say
an opportunity comes up, we can always speak to the board and revise our
incubation budget for 2018.
--
Jody Garnett

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 12:52, Gérald Fenoy <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr> wrote:

> Jody,
> thanks for your email.
>
> Indeed, you may be right and I love people speaking in clear :)
>
> It is just a surprise to me so, I better bring it here and try to start a
> discussion.
>
> I do agree that other projects should take advantage and be aware of such
> a support OSGeo can provide.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gérald Fenoy
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>
> > Le 16 juil. 2018 à 19:43, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> a écrit
> :
> >
> > Gerald your project has not graduated and does not have standing as an
> OSGeo committee.
> >
> > The incubation committee has been given responsibility of running a
> budget for community projects, including ZOO-Project. Your PSC helped by
> adding our our budget request in 2018 and I am in this email thread going
> through the steps to release the funds to your project. Prior activity has
> resulted in private emails being sent to me, this time I am communicating
> in the clear - in part to encourage other Community Projects to take part
> in OSGeo and take advantage of the support we can offer as an organization.
> >
> > The history of the ZOO-Project is not at issue here, we need an officer
> to act on your behalf, and until you complete graduation you do not have an
> officer of your own.
> > --
> > Jody Garnett
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 10:05, Gérald Fenoy <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
> wrote:
> > Dear OSGeo Board and OSGeo Incubator committee members,
> > I come to you as the PSC Chair of ZOO-Project, for requesting
> clarification on the following issue occurring to our project.
> >
> > As the ZOO-Project PSC, we think it is our responsibility to deal with
> the budget that has been approved by the OSGeo board of directors. It is
> the reason why we have taken the time to vote on the motion to use the
> budget allocated to the ZOO-Project for the 2018 year. The vote has
> occurred publicly and every PSC member has voted +1 [1]. Then, I have asked
> directly the OSGeo treasurer for the funds to be transferred to the
> ZOO-Project as it has been done in the past.
> >
> > In case the rules have changed then, the ZOO-Project PSC (I don’t know
> if this applies to other projects too) should have been informed of such a
> change. Indeed, we would have time to make the appropriate actions and
> avoid proposing workshops or presentations we would not be able to provide
> due to sudden restrictions in budget, in case you use it to attend a
> conference hosted by OSGeo.
> >
> > Also, I would like to make mention that back in 2017 we had made a
> similar vote by the PSC [2] and the funds were transferred without any
> interaction with the incubation committee. I think it is the proper way to
> proceed, have the budget approved by the board then let the project PSC
> deal with the budget. Anyway, it again happened earlier this year, when we
> were asking funds for attending the Bonn Code Sprint and proceeded in the
> exact same way [3].
> >
> > I would like to especially point out that the ZOO-Project is
> participating in OSGeo and attends every single FOSS4G for a decade now,
> where both ZOO-Project workshops and presentations are given. In case the
> OSGeo Incubation committee thinks it is of no importance to have a
> representative of the OSGeo projects and/or incubating projects at FOSS4G,
> then there is no issue with this. Nevertheless, this would require a public
> clarification.
> >
> > Thanks for your time and have a great day ahead.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >
> > [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/zoo-psc/2018-July/000740.html
> > [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/zoo-psc/2017-July/thread.html
> > [3] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/zoo-psc/2018-March/000739.html
> >
> > Gérald Fenoy
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
> >
> > > Le 16 juil. 2018 à 09:13, Dimitris Kotzinos <kotzino at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> > >
> > > Hi Jody,
> > >
> > > as the mentor of the ZOO-project, I fully support the request.
> > >
> > > Dimitris
> > >
> > >
> > > On 16/07/2018 07:57, Jody Garnett wrote:
> > >> The treasurer has received a request from the zoo-psc for funding so
> me
> > >> travel to foss4g (where some presentations on ZOO-Project and MapMint
> > >> are taking place):
> > >>
> > >> * https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/zoo-psc/2018-July/000749.html
> > >>
> > >> Reminder ZOO-Project, along with several other community projects,
> made
> > >> budget requests here:
> > >>
> > >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2018#Community_Projects
> > >>
> > >> ZOO-Project has not completed graduation and does not have an officer
> of
> > >> their own, so I guess this falls on me as incubation chair to make the
> > >> request on behalf of the ZOO-Project PSC.
> > >>
> > >> /As incubation chair this looks fine, the ZOO-Project is both planning
> > >> ahead with a budget request, and making use of the funding in a
> > >> productive fashion. I kind of wish many of our other projects were as
> > >> engaged./
> > >>
> > >> I am happy to make the request, I will give it 24 hours in case any
> > >> ZOO-Project PSC members, or incubation committee members, wish to
> > >> provide input.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jody Garnett
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> >
>
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