[Incubator] proj graduation discussion

Mon Nov 4 13:35:24 PST 2019

Sorry for my delayed response, with Michael's recommendation I am happy to
vote +1.
--
Jody Garnett

On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 01:01, Kristian Evers <kreve at sdfe.dk> wrote:

> All,
>
> I'd like to remind you that the vote for PROJ graduation ends tomorrow.
> The votes so far are
>
> - Bruce Bannerman
> - Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques
> - Howard Butler
> - Arnulf Christl +1
> - Jo Cook +1
> - Jody Garnett
> - Dimitris Kotzinos
> - Tom Kralidis +1 seconded
> - Julien-Samuel Lacroix
> - Mark Lucas
> - Michael Smith +1 initial motion
> - Steve Lime
> - Daniel Morissette +1
> - Markus Schneider
> - Cameron Shorter
>
> Which is 5 of a possible 15 votes. As 50% in favour of PROJ graduation is
> required, +1's from
> at least three more members of the incubation committee is needed. I hope
> that is achievable
> so that PROJ can finally become a full project in the OSGeo family.
>
> Thank you,
> Kristian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com>
> Sent: 27. oktober 2019 16:58
> To: Kristian Evers <kreve at sdfe.dk>; Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSGeo-incubator <incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Incubator] proj graduation discussion
>
> Sorry, I missed the last message, didn't realize you were waiting on an
> assessment from me.
>
> I would agree with Kristian that the PROJ incubation process was very
> smooth. As stated, PROJ is not a new project as has been foundational for
> Open Source projects for years. It was the recent efforts of people like
> Kristian and the rest of the PSC to move to a bigger community of
> contributors and having an actual PSC were key factors in making PROJ a
> real OSGeo Project in full standing.
>
> Mike
>
>
> --
> Michael Smith
> OSGeo Treasurer
> treasurer at osgeo.org
>
>
> From: Kristian Evers <kreve at sdfe.dk>
> Date: Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 11:48 AM
> To: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>, Michael Smith <
> michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSGeo-incubator <incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: RE: [Incubator] proj graduation discussion
>
> Jody,
>
> The Contributor Covenant code of conduct has now been accepted by the PROJ
> community [0].
>
> The question of whether we are breaking the terms of use of the EPSG
> registry or not has been raised several times. I think the most complete
> discussion is found in the incubation application ticket [1]. The EPSG
> terms of use allow both redistribution and modification of the dataset.
> Modification of the dataset is only allowed provided that the data is no
> longer ascribed to the EPSG though. In the PROJ distribution the data from
> the EPSG registry is reworked into our own database that has a slightly
> different structure. The data is not modified otherwise. The data from the
> EPSG is currently put under the same license (MIT) as the rest of the PROJ
> source distribution. Personally I believe that what we are doing is within
> the terms of use of the EPSG registry. This has been confirmed by the
> Debian organization which I regard as a stamp of approval, since those guys
> tend to be rather strict when it comes to licensing. The reasoning by the
> Debian folks is available in the incubation application [1].
>
> As for the incubation process itself, I think it has gone rather smoothly.
> Over the last couple of years PROJ has matured quite a bit
> organizationally, having most of the requirements for incubation in place
> long before the application was submitted. Filling out the incubation
> checklist was fairly simple, although it is a long list to go through. For
> PROJ it was mostly a case of documenting already established procedures and
> we haven’t really had to make a lot of changes to comply with the
> incubation requirements. The most tedious job was the Provenance Review,
> but since we’ve always been using a very permissive license no surprises
> showed up.
>
> /Kristian
>
> [0] https://proj.org/community/code_of_conduct.html
> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2268
>
> From: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> Sent: 20. oktober 2019 04:36
> To: Kristian Evers <kreve at sdfe.dk>; Michael Smith <
> michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSGeo-incubator <incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Incubator] proj graduation discussion
>
> Thanks, I will hold off voting while we wait for the CoC to be
> established, and until we hear from Michael (this is also our chance to
> hear from the proj team about how incubation worked out)
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Kristian Evers <mailto:kreve at sdfe.dk>
> wrote:
> Jody,
>
> I am working on both the CoC and the OSGeo project page.
> The first is addressed here
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/proj/2019-October/008931.html.
>
> I’ve added the logo and various links to the http://osgeo.org page.
> Better descriptions
> of the features of PROJ are still needed. Hopefully I’ll get round to that
> this weekend.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> /Kristian
>
>
>
> On 17 Oct 2019, at 18:34, Jody Garnett <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Disclaimer: I helped Michael and the PROJ team a couple times at code
> sprints get setup for incubation so this is not the first time I have
> reviewed.
>
> Before we start though, Michael as mentor your have been hanging out with
> the PROJ team. Were there any questions during incubation, and procedures
> changed or clarified? How did it go?
>
> Useful links:
> - http://proj.org/ (this looks *great* congrats, and thanks for including
> the osgeo community logo)
> - https://www.osgeo.org/projects/proj4/ <-- this needs a fair bit of work
> (like a logo, website link, issue tracker, downloads, ...)
> - https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2268
> - https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/wiki/Incubation-checklist - we need a
> code of conduct somewhere (I just checked the repo).
>
> With respect to code of conduct, this is a new requirement from the board
> and the incubation committee has not yet updated our checklist.
> --
> Jody Garnett
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