[Live-demo] Localized LiveDVD

Astrid Emde astrid_emde at osgeo.org
Tue Aug 31 16:45:40 EDT 2010 

Hello,

I wrote a mail to the german lists fossgis-talk and fossgis-verein to ask
people what they think about getting the german version ready for INTERGEO
2010.

Here is the link:

https://lists.fossgis.de/pipermail/fossgis-talk-liste/2010-August/001919.html

Let's wait for some feedback.

Astrid

On Mon, August 30, 2010 10:58 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> I love that people are suggesting translating OSGeo-Live documentation,
> and I actually think it is achievable for Intergeo if you have a couple of
> dedicated translators.
>
> Talking about schedule:
> Our driver for creating the latest English documentation will always be
> the FOSS4G conference, and based on human tendencies we will always be
> getting our English documentation at the last minute before printing,
> without time for translation for foss4g. (This will be the case for the
> 2011 FOSS4G, being in the English speaking USA.)
>
>
> Once we have the FOSS4G version cut (around 4 weeks before foss4g), we
> can then hand the documentation over to translators.
>
> There are 43 projects, each having a 1to 2 page project overview, plus
> 15 or so standard overviews. Maybe 100 pages in total, 60 pages if just
> translating the project overviews.
>
> If very keen, translators can also take on the quickstarts, but that
> will be much more work.
>
> The good thing about the documentation is that we can run the
> documentation install script by itself, applied to a prior release, in
> order to update just the translated documentation.
>
> So for the 4.0 release, if we can find someone to translate ~ 60 project
> overviews to German in the next 4 weeks, then we could create a 4.0_german
> release before Integeo.
>
> On 31/08/10 02:46, Astrid Emde wrote:
>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>>
>> On Mon, August 30, 2010 4:36 pm, Daniel Kastl wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Astrid,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree that the Geoserver directory structure as Jody proposed
>>> should work well.
>>>
>>> In my opinion it would be worth to try to translate at least the
>>> basic documentation. If a few people do this together it shouldn't
>>> take too much time. Does the LiveDVD for Intergeo have any fix
>>> deadline?
>>>
>> The Intergeo will be 5.-7. October 2010
>> (http://www.intergeo.de/de/deutsch/index.php)
>>
>>
>> So it would be quite sportiv to get the german version till then. I
>> think we are fine for this year to provide the english version.
>>
>> There is still the job to do to get some hundred dvd printed and so on.
>>
>>
>>
>> There will be a presentation part on Intergeo where we could present
>> the project and show the slides from Cameron. There is not so much text
>> and the presentation could be in german
>>
>>
>>
>>> Personally I
>>> will spend this week plenty of hours in the airplane from Osaka via
>>> Bangkok to Munich and could start already with translating. Except
>>> you say it's definitely too late for this year already.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>> I would guess it is already too late. But maybe Cameron and the
>> packaging team have to decide this.
>>
>> Anyway you already could do the translations for the next version.
>>
>>
>> Have a good flight.
>>
>>
>> Astrid
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2010/8/30 Astrid Emde<astrid_emde at osgeo.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it would be great if we could provide the LiveDVD in different
>>>> languages. We plan to take the LiveDVD to the Intergeo which is a
>>>> big fair but mostly with german speaking visitors. It won't work out
>>>> to get a german version for 2010, but maybe we can provide it for
>>>> next year.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe most documents could be translated from people from the
>>>> projects themselves (this would be possible at least for german).
>>>> For german
>>>> translations I also can ask people from the FOSSGIS e.V. (german
>>>> speaking local chapter of the OSGeo).
>>>>
>>>> I agree with the data structure Jody suggested.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Astrid
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, August 30, 2010 1:15 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For geoserver we ended up with duplicating the docs in different
>>>>> svn trees (using the iso language name as the directory):
>>>>>
>>>>> You can see the result here:
>>>>> - http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/doc/en/
>>>>> - http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/doc/es/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jody
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Daniel Kastl
>>>>> <daniel.kastl at georepublic.de>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with many of the goals. It's long been on my list to
>>>>>>> get the language switcher like the normal ubuntu disk has
>>>>>>> right at boot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can easily switch the default language and keyboard
>>>>>>> setting by hand right before building the iso.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now that we have rst based docs
>>>>>>> +1 on translating the docs (the how to change
>>>>>>> language/keyboard would be the best one to start with) +1 on
>>>>>>> translating menus if they need it (note the ubuntu menus
>>>>>>> already are translated for the most part) - Encouraging the
>>>>>>> translation of OSGeo apps to the same list of
>>>>>>> languages (list might need some adjustment) we've included. +1
>>>>>>>  translating cover
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry I won't be there in Barcelona but don't let that stop
>>>>>>> you from talking about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>> I agree. The main work would be translating.
>>>>>> Unfortunately Sphinx doesn't support multilingual documents. I
>>>>>> looked for this a few weeks ago already. So probably at first we
>>>>>>  need to agree on some guideline and naming convention for
>>>>>> localized documentation, and we could think about how to inform
>>>>>> translators about changes and updates of the original files. The
>>>>>> latter is a common problem of translated documents. Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Georepublic UG&  Georepublic Japan
>>>>>> eMail: daniel.kastl at georepublic.de
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Astrid Emde
>>>>
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